Thankfully Cloudron will make isolating infrastructure super easy to do with multi-host coming soon in v7.0
I haven't heard of sysbox, but rootless docker + user namespaces per container is pretty good at solving something currently "bad" security-wise about docker.
Regarding btcpayserver, I am waiting on a server deployment and will be testing it shortly
@subtlecourage Let me work on this tomorrow. This tutorial doc makes it seem very simple, let's hope I didn't just jynx myself.
A counter-argument to adding this to cloudron might be that we are adding attack surface to what is essentially financial infrastructure. Some of Cloudron's apps might not have ever been security audited on the upstream side (unless this is an app requirement I am not aware of). Cloudron devs seem to push major updates quickly and support auto updating out-of-the-box, so that definitely helps. Again, I just think for powerful financial software like this it's important to consider. Multi-host cloudron is around the corner too.
Also keep in mind we already have this nice official tool that will produce a custom one-liner to install on a brand new VPS: install.btcpayserver.org They even offer the ability to SSH into the server for you via that webapp (I'm not sure if this is client or server side since wasm exists), although I feel more comfortable with the manual script option myself. It might also be neat if Cloudron borrowed from this approach.
I still think it is a great option for Cloudron, don't get me wrong. Researching and packaging a good user-friendly SOC stack might be where I look next if I'm not getting too far ahead of myself. Apps like Grafana + Prometheus + Metabase are already on cloudron so that's nice
https://github.com/campbellmcgregor/cryptpad-cloudron
I'm not entirely sure who's work this is, but would anyone know if this solved any of the problems mentioned in this thread? If someone could ping the author, I would appreciate it! (I did not see a result for @campbellmcgregor here on the forums)
Or has any of the new current/proposed features of Cloudron made this any easier to get running on Cloudron?
You can post exactly which machine you are looking at, but I believe the auctions are all dedicated servers so you should be good there. You will be given SSH credentials that will let you remotely login and run those commands. The Cloudron setup should guide you from there. Good luck
I suppose this would be deployable on a free license, maybe I should try my hand at Cloudron packaging. Not sure that I can support it long-term personally though. Hopefully I can develop with a free license server deployment.
Some more info about this platform has also been discussed here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4738/accept-bitcoin/
Atleast Cloudron UG does not host any servers and btcpayserver is already non-custodial. Nice qualities there.
@marcusquinn the API is also BitPay compatible btw. I think Coinbase is okay. In an ideal world, a public ledger really is the best. Since you and I both know that's not the world we live in, Monero serves an understandable need currently unsolved by Bitcoin. But that's the beauty of open source, right?
Thankfully, I have heard it is not hard to get a Monero daemon and payment integration running on btcpayserver via a docker flag. Along with an officially supported WordPress plugin, Point-of-Sale, crowdsourcing, shop, and invoice functions for any supported currency, this makes a nice little package for someone to get their community started with cryptocurrency.
Honestly, given that so many money services support purchasing BTC these days with QR-code scanning/sending and whatnot, I think giving Cloudron users the ability to get this going would be great. It may resonate with the kind of people looking for a self-hosted setup.
They have great docs
https://docs.btcpayserver.org/
Well-funded dev team
https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver/commits/master
And a demo running for anyone wanting to check it out
https://mainnet.demo.btcpayserver.org/
@marcusquinn The two requests can be mutually exclusive, but having both the app & payment method for subscriptions would be very nice.
App requested is already here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/3956/btcpayserver/4?_=1619044612903
Not seeing much push for it yet unfortunately.
I believe Tesla is using it with their recent BTC payment method adoption. Atleast, they have sent some significant patches for btcpayserver recently.
@humptydumpty In addition to the self-hosted solution you can use their public backend server for free as well https://cactus.chat/docs/getting-started/quick-start/
I am almost sure you are already aware, but just incase thought I'd add that. Definitely good to know if you are in a pinch and can't run one yourself! I believe it simply lets your own matrix user become a moderator for any rooms created by your comment sections.
Cheers
@girish No, I just wanted to try and help or see if this was still happening on behalf of OP. Sorry I do not have an active pro subscription to test further. I am not sure if this issue is still occurring.
Given the abuse potential, I would call it wise to disable this one on the demo 
just wanted to check
I was going to test on the demo to reproduce, but this app is disabled in the demo. Any updates on this?
This is not exactly what you desire, but very hopeful Matrix-based project here that might work. At least adds decentralized comments/responses as a nice embed.
OpenVPN client (on mobile at least) supports auto configuration with only using user:pass combo and entering server domain. This would make end user logins simple to manage with no needing to manually download and import profile files. The web ui is indeed nice, but this would be great. I had trouble with this on the demo cloudron. Any idea how to implement? I tried to find official documentation on this feature configuration but no luck..
The client says "Please note that you can only import profile using URL if it is supported by your VPN provider"
If this is difficult to do, maybe don't bother since we will hopefully get wireguard eventually on cloudron at some point.
If it's easy to do would be great for users! Also most importantly thanks for the work thus far!
EDIT: Okay I found this link discussion recently https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenVPN/comments/lb4ryq/profile_import_from_url/
I did some reading on OpenVPN "Access Server" which makes me very much dispise OpenVPN's development choice for this usability feature. I think it is paid only for more than 2 users. Oh well not sure if anyone has a open version of this made. Hopefully we can get wireguard since it is better for many reasons any way.
Perhaps someone has some insight into this or wants to discuss
Would love to see an option to pay with BTC or other cryptocurrency, even if this option is restricted to the yearly subscription. Highly recommend BTCPayServer
+1
Right now BTCPayServer is by far the most serious option for self-hosted crypto payment processor.
