Google suspended Element in Play Store

[jimcavoli]

@subven Totally agree - by that logic, they should ban all the web browsers because they could connect to a site with highly objectionable content. Probably all the VPNs and other general-purpose utilities too. It's a dangerously slippery slope for sure.

[mehdi]

@jimcavoli I mean, for that matter, computers allow access to objectionable stuff... One could argue that the root cause is actually having eyes ...

[A Former User]

@mehdi as long as we humans exist there will be obscene content. So destroy all humans?

[fbartels]

@yusf said in Google suspended Element in Play Store:

they all share the same flaw, which is the push notification feature

There are push notifications in PWAs https://medium.com/better-programming/everything-you-need-to-know-about-pwas-push-notifications-e870bb54e14f

[yusf]

@fbartels But if it's not available on mobile and cross-platform it's of no use as nothing can be built for a general target group.

[BrutalBirdie]

While we are at it.
Did anyone try to host Cloudron as an Onion Service?

Just tagging @girish and @nebulon to maybe get some insights about Onion Services and Cloudron.

[nebulon]

@brutalbirdie tbh I don't have much experience with onion services, so no not really.

[marcusquinn]

@fbartels If only all push notifications could be uninvented, I'd be very happy!

[fbartels]

@yusf said in Google suspended Element in Play Store:

But if it's not available on mobile

On Android that works quite well. If only there would be no Apple in the world... https://developer.apple.com/forums/thread/114503

[yusf]

@fbartels On the other hand: If only there would be no Apple in the world we'd be completely at the whims of one of the largest data mining operation in the world.

[marcusquinn]

@fbartels There would need to be something better than Apple for my needs, and much of my favourite software is Mac-only. I can run Linux & Windows VMs/VPS from Mac but not the other way around.

Seriously, I'd pay to have zero push notifications, they are a psychological plague in purporting that external attention-seeking is more important than self-determined attention.

I miss the days when phones were for calls & text messages only.

[yusf]

@marcusquinn

You can run macOS on Windows, both virtually and natively.

I'd pay to have zero push notifications

I miss the days when phones were for calls & text messages only.

Calls and texts are literally pushed though.

[marcusquinn]

@yusf Technically you can hack a Mac but it's asking for unsupported trouble, anything relying on hardware support is vulnerable. I could drive a kit-car too, but I value my time more than money, and would literally spend twice as much for half the hassles. Taken me 20 years of refining, but very happy with my setup

[marcusquinn]

@yusf said in Google suspended Element in Play Store:

Calls and texts are literally pushed though.

For the 10% of important people still using them. 90% of notifications to me are unnecessary, no matter how much I try to whack them with settings.