Video chat and conferencing options

[oj]

@girish Do take a look at "Run your own Skype-like service in less than one hour" by the founder of the Kamailo SIP server open source project where Kamailo works together with Jitsi to enable many to collaborate meaningfully - via audio/video/ screen-sharing in one room - on not "too-big" a server.

Off course, it could be a "premium" Cloudron offering!

[seeker]

I wanted to follow up. I am thinking about seeing what I might be able to set up this weekend, using my cloudron setup. Much has changed with cloudron wigh @girish and @nebulon (and others) hard work updating Cloudron and getting TURN implemented. (Another thank you)
Much has also changed in the world with covid19.
I am curious what people are running- easily...????????

I am still looking for:
Single login (or as few as possible)
File sharing (similar to next cloud)
1 on 1 video chat ( single click would be nice to launch)
Group chat ( similar to google hangouts or zoom)
Screen sharing , white boards, ether pad integrated in video call
Sharing prerecorded video
Ability to create & join conference from smartphone
Recording web conference ( can use OBS)
Remote Desktop like teamviewer. Had not thought about this, but this would be amazing.

This is a pretty long list. What would be awesome is getting something off the ground like Zoom. @gish gave an excellent explanation of the hurdles creating a multi user video conference. So am I to assume that at this point selfhosting something like zoom is not really possible?

What have people had a chance to experiment with?

How many have people been able to create a group video chat with utilizing cloudron?

[NCKNE]

@seeker said in Video chat and conferencing options:

While there are many solutions around that could fit your needs, I can only share what I am personally using/recommending for the various use cases you describe:

I am still looking for:
Single login (or as few as possible)

Use oidc (OpenID Connect) whenever possible. As for oidc providers: you can use Kopano Meet (check @fbartels post on this for further information: Link) or Rocket.Chat as oidc providers for example. Many apps (Nextcloud, Rocket.Chat, NodeBB with plugin) support OpenID Connect.

File sharing (similar to next cloud)

I personally like Nextcloud for file sharing (and just for that purpose)

1 on 1 video chat ( single click would be nice to launch)

Kopano Meet is a great option here. No plugins necessary, works on mobile devices, private (internal) and external video chat with guests possible.

Group chat ( similar to google hangouts or zoom)

For group video chat, something with a MCU/videobridge would be necessary. Jitsi would be great for this, but packaging seems to be not an easy task.

Screen sharing , white boards, ether pad integrated in video call

For small groups with just a few people working on a document together, Nextcloud Talk with OnlyOffice would be an option as well.

Sharing prerecorded video

Not sure about that, maybe Nextcloud?

Ability to create & join conference from smartphone

Both Kopano Meet and Jitsi can be uses from mobile devices. Jitsi needs an app, Kopano Meet uses the WebRTC support available in all modern web browsers.

Recording web conference ( can use OBS)
Remote Desktop like teamviewer. Had not thought about this, but this would be amazing.

Not sure about those two. I‘ve read about a self hosted open source alternative to TeamViewer, but haven‘t had a chance to give it a try (would have to see if I can still find the link to that).

Update: The TeamViewer alternative I was writing about was this: https://www.meshcommander.com - never tried nor looked deeper into this though...

[seeker]

@NCKNE Thank you so much!

[jdaviescoates]

Nextcloud Talk 9 coming out soon with some improvements.

Even more significantly, the high performance backend has been open sourced:

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2541/nextcloud-talk-high-performance-back-end/

[girish]

Jitsi docs got a rework - https://jitsi.github.io/handbook/ and https://docs.easyjitsi.com/docs/welcome. So we will revisit jitsi again after 5.2 release (should be out today/tomorrow).

[yusf]

@girish Great news. I'm guessing that the folks at Jitsi also feel the pressure from a quarantined world.

[jdaviescoates]

@girish said in Video chat and conferencing options:

we will revisit jitsi again after 5.2 release

No idea if it's useful, but just in case it is, I just came across this Ansible role to install & configure Jitsi Meet on the CoTech forum and the person who shared said "Looks solid, has tests"

https://github.com/systemli/ansible-role-jitsi-meet

[potemkin_ai]

@girish any updates on the estimates so far?

[girish]

@potemkin_ai We are looking into packaging jitsi. @BrutalBirdie is helping us out here.

[nottheend]

Is there there a video conferencing app in cloudron available currently,which has a client? MiroTalk doesn't have a client and I need an Android client, because on Android the permissions of Mic are revoked on screen lock.

I also tried Jitsi with Rocket.Chat but I don't get it running (policy to be accepted and I don't know where)

[luckow]

@nottheend Have you tried Nextcloud Talk?

[svtx]

Using Nextcloud Talk everyday without issues.

[nottheend]

Thanks! I was hesitant to use Nextcloud Talk initially since Cloudron is raising awareness about third party Nextcloud apps.

Checking it, thanks everyone!

[andreasdueren]

@svtx said in Video chat and conferencing options:

Using Nextcloud Talk everyday without issues.

Same here. There are occasional connection/hardware issues but nothing mayor or different from using zoom or Teams