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Outline - a Notion-like open source app

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  • girishG girish

    @infogulch FWIW, I don't mind adding OpenID into cloudron. It was OAuth that wasn't a great idea. My understanding is that OpenID is more uniform and standardized. @nebulon and @fbartels probably know more about this though.

    I guess I mean OpenID connect (OIDC) and not OpenID. I don't know the difference between these terms πŸ™‚

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    @girish how about adding oidc as another addon and just ferderate to LDAP? Something like https://github.com/dexidp/dex could be used for this.
    Only thinking out loud, never used this myself. Stumpled over it while working on other projects. 😁

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    • klawitterbK klawitterb

      @girish how about adding oidc as another addon and just ferderate to LDAP? Something like https://github.com/dexidp/dex could be used for this.
      Only thinking out loud, never used this myself. Stumpled over it while working on other projects. 😁

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      @klawitterb yes, I don't see why not. But as mentioned, I am speaking beyond my expertise here πŸ™‚ I think @nebulon will know how much work it is on Cloudron side.

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      • klawitterbK klawitterb

        @girish how about adding oidc as another addon and just ferderate to LDAP? Something like https://github.com/dexidp/dex could be used for this.
        Only thinking out loud, never used this myself. Stumpled over it while working on other projects. 😁

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        @klawitterb said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

        as another addon

        Yes, oidc should definitely be an addon (even better if one could just add addons during runtime of an app, so that one does not need to remove and reinstall apps to enable it). But instead of going third party it should be something native to the stack, like the https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#proxyauth addon to benefit from existing sessions and the 2fa Cloudron already provides.

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          So I was curious about my proposal and just tried this. Seems to work quote well. Much easier than setting up a fully fledged identity provider like keycloak imho.
          Basically dex is a go app which is controlled by a yaml config. Currently just running it inside the outline app itself with a little nginx proxy in front of it. When logging in it redirects to the login mask from dex which then authenticates the user from cloudrons LDAP.

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          • klawitterbK klawitterb

            So I was curious about my proposal and just tried this. Seems to work quote well. Much easier than setting up a fully fledged identity provider like keycloak imho.
            Basically dex is a go app which is controlled by a yaml config. Currently just running it inside the outline app itself with a little nginx proxy in front of it. When logging in it redirects to the login mask from dex which then authenticates the user from cloudrons LDAP.

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            wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
            #71

            @klawitterb Nice find and R&D! Looks like this might be just the thing for making Cloudron's LDAP useable by external apps:

            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/2189/ldap-ad-server

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              Update available: Outline v0.63.0

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                #73

                Now that Cloudron adds authentication headers with the proxyAuth addon, maybe the easiest solution to integrate authentication is to use those headers in outline. I guess that might be as simple as adding a new file to the /server/routes/auth/providers dir. This would simplify the cloudron package because it wouldn't have to set up and run keycloak.

                https://github.com/outline/outline/tree/main/server/routes/auth/providers

                Then the only barrier to packaging for cloudron would be the hypothetical s3/minio addon mentioned above.

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                • infogulchI infogulch

                  Now that Cloudron adds authentication headers with the proxyAuth addon, maybe the easiest solution to integrate authentication is to use those headers in outline. I guess that might be as simple as adding a new file to the /server/routes/auth/providers dir. This would simplify the cloudron package because it wouldn't have to set up and run keycloak.

                  https://github.com/outline/outline/tree/main/server/routes/auth/providers

                  Then the only barrier to packaging for cloudron would be the hypothetical s3/minio addon mentioned above.

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                  @infogulch I think that's doable. I'll see if I can get it working.

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                    #75

                    Update available: Outline v0.64.3

                    PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

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                    • njN nj

                      Update available: Outline v0.64.3

                      PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

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                      #76

                      @nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                      PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

                      πŸ™ praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? πŸ™‚ πŸ™ )

                      Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally! πŸ˜› ) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ? πŸ™‚

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                        PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth

                        πŸ™ praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? πŸ™‚ πŸ™ )

                        Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally! πŸ˜› ) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ? πŸ™‚

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                        #77

                        @jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
                        If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline

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                        • klawitterbK klawitterb

                          @jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
                          If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline

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                          jdaviescoates
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                          #78

                          @klawitterb that's great, thanks! But I wanna get Outline in the App Store.

                          Hopefully @staff can take a look at both these custom Outline packages and do whatever needs doing to get them into the store πŸ™‚

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            Perhaps AppFlowy can offer an alternative in the meantime?

                            • https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/6088/appflowy

                            Local installers available:

                            • https://appflowy.gitbook.io/docs/essential-documentation/install-appflowy/installation-methods

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                              Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                              There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                              https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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                                And Documize: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7116/documize-alternative-to-confluence

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                                • Vikas-jkV Vikas-jk

                                  Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                                  There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                                  https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

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                                  @Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:

                                  Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
                                  There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked here

                                  https://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314

                                  Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    #83

                                    Update available: Outline v0.65.2

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                                      This also looks very good:

                                      https://docs.codex.so/codex-docs

                                      Upvote here:

                                      https://forum.cloudron.io/post/53468

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                                        #85

                                        There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                                        I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                                        • njN nj

                                          There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
                                          I forgot to put it here earlier.

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                                          @nj thanks!

                                          @staff would be wonderful if this could be added to the App Store?

                                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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