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"Platform data" and "Other" disk usage

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  • d19dotcaD Offline
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    d19dotca
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    #5

    I just noticed mine at 10.24 GB for "Other". What is that and how do we clear it up (if it's even safe to do so)?

    Side note: Would be great if the feature graph would also do the math to show how much remaining space exists so we don't have to do the math ourselves. 😉 I think I'll file that feature request separately later on.

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    Dustin Dauncey
    www.d19.ca

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    • girishG Offline
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      girish
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      #6

      @d19dotca Please check the size of /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs. We have a logrotate issue which is not cleaning up logs properly. You can delete some of the old files there safely.

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        Warez
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        #7

        I have the same problem.

        I identified:

        47G /var/lib/docker

        30G /var/backups

        Backups i can understand but Docker folder is kind of big.

        Screenshot from 2019-11-06 21.57.25.png

        Any ideea?

        du -sh /home/yellowtent/platformdata/*

        4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/INFRA_VERSION
        4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/VERSION
        4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/acme
        28K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/addons
        12K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/backup
        24K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/collectd
        67M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/graphite
        12K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d
        344K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs
        511M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/mongodb
        132M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/mysql
        60K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx
        77M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/postgresql
        1.9M /home/yellowtent/platformdata/redis
        4.0K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/sessions
        108K /home/yellowtent/platformdata/update

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        • girishG Offline
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          girish
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          #8

          @Warez Did you use du -hcs to get docker storage size? Because the du tool does not work correctly with the overlayfs that docker uses. Instead use docker system df output.

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            Warez
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            #9

            TYPE TOTAL ACTIVE SIZE RECLAIMABLE
            Images 10 9 2.591GB 1.33GB (51%)
            Containers 10 9 0B 0B
            Local Volumes 22 18 21.79MB 31.76kB (0%)
            Build Cache 0 0 0B 0B

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            • girishG Offline
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              girish
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              #10

              @Warez The 2.5GB there seems OK. Our docker app images are not disk usage optimized.

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                Warez
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                I understand, but why does cloudron report Other 82.82 GB?

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                  nebulon
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                  #12

                  "Other" might not be the best term in hindsight. Basically it is just the sum of everything else on the system. For example the Linux system/distro data itself, as well as data which is otherwise placed outside of Cloudron known folders, if any.

                  If anyone has a better term for that, to convey this information, I am happy to adjust it, if we find a good one.

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                  • nebulonN nebulon

                    "Other" might not be the best term in hindsight. Basically it is just the sum of everything else on the system. For example the Linux system/distro data itself, as well as data which is otherwise placed outside of Cloudron known folders, if any.

                    If anyone has a better term for that, to convey this information, I am happy to adjust it, if we find a good one.

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                    msbt
                    App Dev
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @nebulon what about just "System" 😉

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                    • J Offline
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                      jk
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                      #14

                      Hi,

                      I have another question regardiing this. The following is the output of docker system df.

                      $ docker system df
                      TYPE                TOTAL               ACTIVE              SIZE                RECLAIMABLE
                      Images              34                  16                  9.857GB             6.508GB (66%)
                      Containers          21                  18                  0B                  0B
                      Local Volumes       160                 36                  5.274GB             3.964GB (75%)
                      Build Cache         0                   0                   0B                  0B
                      

                      As you can see, docker claims that a lot of storage is reclaimable.

                      Is it safe to run docker volume prune and docker image prune?

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                        girish
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                        #15

                        The prune commands should be safe to run. Unless there is some Cloudron bug, it shouldn't remove anything.

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                        • girishG girish

                          The prune commands should be safe to run. Unless there is some Cloudron bug, it shouldn't remove anything.

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                          jk
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                          #16

                          @girish thank you.

                          That worked for docker volume prune. The other command (docker image prune) did not actually clean anything up though, but the output of docker system df stays with 66% reclaimable.

                          Any further ideas?

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                          • girishG girish

                            @d19dotca Please check the size of /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs. We have a logrotate issue which is not cleaning up logs properly. You can delete some of the old files there safely.

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                            yusf
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @girish said in "Platform data" and "Other" disk usage:

                            We have a logrotate issue which is not cleaning up logs properly.

                            I still need to continuously watch these log files not filling up the machine completely. Can you take another look at the log rotation feature?

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                              girish
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                              @yusf Do you know which log is taking up space? Maybe we miss a logrotation rule somewhere. You can find this by du -hcs /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/*

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                              • girishG girish

                                @yusf Do you know which log is taking up space? Maybe we miss a logrotation rule somewhere. You can find this by du -hcs /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/*

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                                d19dotca
                                wrote on last edited by d19dotca
                                #19

                                @girish For what it's worth, I ran that command and found the total size was 872 MB. Is that expected? It seems like a lot to me to be nearly a GB in size just for text files. I'd expect that to be more around the 200 MB mark or so, but I'm not sure of the logrotate rules and how much gets logged generally nor how quickly.

                                I noticed one of the larger log files was around 47 MB on its own, and it looks to be from my Radicale app. It seems to be logging in DEBUG mode, which I presume is not intended? I'm guessing for production systems we'd like to keep logs in a normal INFO mode, right?

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                                Dustin Dauncey
                                www.d19.ca

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                                  girish
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  mm, OK. I looked into your own installation - https://paste.cloudron.io/eqixarerox.css (~800MB)

                                  logrotate configs are in /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate.d

                                  • Some apps like 2f004a04-e256-426b-9485-e06a31adc2dd were missing configs. This is because when we added the new configs many releases ago, we didn't go back and re-generate it for all the apps. To fix this, simply enable and disable recovery mode and then the logrotate config will be generated.

                                  • For turn, the logrotate was not added when we added it in the previous release. I have fixed this now for next release.

                                  • For all apps/services, we keep up to 2 logs of 10M. This is why most of them are < 20M. So, this is mostly working as expected.

                                  • For the rest, I see that log files are > 20M. I wonder why... investigating.

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                                    girish
                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by girish
                                    #21

                                    Found out why. If a log file is > 20M at rotation time, then it's never truncated. Looks like this is just how logrotate works.

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                                      necrevistonnezr
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      https://paste.cloudron.io/upozogutut.sql
                                      For me it adds up to 699 MB

                                      Is there a way to clean up those logs in between?

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                                        girish
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @necrevistonnezr If you go into /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate, do you see 07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6 and c5c137fa-0221-4d42-b418-10e544cebad1 there? If not, go those apps (you can figure this out either by looking at the logs a bit or in the dashboard's URL) and start recovery mode and end recovery mode. This will generate the logrotate configs for them.

                                        Once, the configs are in place, future logs will get rotated. But this does not help the current logs. You can just truncate them like:

                                        truncate -s0 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6/app.log
                                        
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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @necrevistonnezr If you go into /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logrotate, do you see 07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6 and c5c137fa-0221-4d42-b418-10e544cebad1 there? If not, go those apps (you can figure this out either by looking at the logs a bit or in the dashboard's URL) and start recovery mode and end recovery mode. This will generate the logrotate configs for them.

                                          Once, the configs are in place, future logs will get rotated. But this does not help the current logs. You can just truncate them like:

                                          truncate -s0 /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/07e4e251-ed90-42ca-9ba3-e015b108f1e6/app.log
                                          
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                                          necrevistonnezr
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #24

                                          @girish Thanks, worked!

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