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Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer

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  • D drew

    @foliovision Sorry to revive an 11-mos dead thread— I've had a hell of a time finding an iOS friendly CalDAV server, though I haven't tried SoGO yet. Curious if you landed on a good solution.

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    @drew It's early innings but the Cloudron SoGo installation looks like a winner. I have no intention of using SoGo as a primary email mailbox as we'd quickly bring our Cloudron server to its knees with 150 GB of mail across the company but the CalDAV and the CardDAV functionality appears to work well.

    Here's some good end user guides for how to use SoGo, written by a Swedish ISP.

    • How to manage address book in SOGo webmail
    • How to manage calendar in SOGo webmail

    The guides include how to share an address book which is obvious once you know how but not obvious until then.

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    • foliovisionF foliovision

      @drew It's early innings but the Cloudron SoGo installation looks like a winner. I have no intention of using SoGo as a primary email mailbox as we'd quickly bring our Cloudron server to its knees with 150 GB of mail across the company but the CalDAV and the CardDAV functionality appears to work well.

      Here's some good end user guides for how to use SoGo, written by a Swedish ISP.

      • How to manage address book in SOGo webmail
      • How to manage calendar in SOGo webmail

      The guides include how to share an address book which is obvious once you know how but not obvious until then.

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      Interesting results so far with SoGo. Won't work with Apple Contacts 2498.2.1 on macOS 14, nor on iPhone Contacts no matter what handstands I do with the custom paths or not.

      /SOGo/dav/yourusername/Contacts/personal/

      I am able to connect with both CardDAV and LDAP with Apple Contacts on macOS but none of the existing contacts show up, nor is it possible to add new cards to either the CardDAV or LDAP version. Hallucinating.

      But SoGo does work on BusyContacts just fine picking up both address books and saving successfully back to the web version.

      There is no iOS version of BusyContacts and I don't want to tie myself down to a third party application to be able to use shared address books. The shared address book is supposed to work between my partner and I and later within the company, which means a server which will work with Apple Contacts.

      Why, or why can't someone code a CardDAV/CalDAV solution which is simple to configure and which works reliably with default Apple clients? Fruux did seem to be the solution until they abandoned the project.

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      • foliovisionF foliovision

        @drew No, I haven't and I'm very frustrated. Fruux CardDAV doesn't sync with anything external any more at all (the calendards work). Website only at least for modifications. NextCloud can work but is almost a full time IT project to make NextCloud perform reliably. Experimenting with EteSync now. It's hosted on someone else's server but is open source and driven to work with lots of open source projects.

        Doesn't help that Apple Contacts is back working okay with CardDAV in Monterrey (was terrible for years post-Snow Leopard) but BusyContacts won't sync reliably with CardDAV any more (even after paying for the expensive update – if this persists I'll be refunding the update and cutting ties with BusyMac – yet again, as I was burned by the same developers with Now Up-to-Date and Now Contacts which worked until they didn't).

        The whole simple CardDAV/CalDAV idea has been effectively embrace-extend-extinguished by Apple. Seems like a simple concept to start with. How could 150,000 development man hours poured into calendar and contact sync end up with only working software on Google or Apple? Argh.

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        @foliovision said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

        NextCloud can work but is almost a full time IT project to make NextCloud perform reliably. Experimenting with EteSync now. It's hosted on someone else's server but is open source and driven to work with lots of open source projects.

        The Nextcloud instance of Cloudron has not failed me once. The key is - as said many times - activate as little plugins as possible and only official ones. I have no talk, mail, office, encryption (my server is at home), all this stuff. Just file sync and contacts / calendar - and it just works, in particular NC 24 was also a leap in speed.

        Also, I wouldn’t rely on test results with alpha / beta versions of macOS.

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        • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

          @foliovision said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

          NextCloud can work but is almost a full time IT project to make NextCloud perform reliably. Experimenting with EteSync now. It's hosted on someone else's server but is open source and driven to work with lots of open source projects.

          The Nextcloud instance of Cloudron has not failed me once. The key is - as said many times - activate as little plugins as possible and only official ones. I have no talk, mail, office, encryption (my server is at home), all this stuff. Just file sync and contacts / calendar - and it just works, in particular NC 24 was also a leap in speed.

          Also, I wouldn’t rely on test results with alpha / beta versions of macOS.

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          @necrevistonnezr And you've had consistently good luck syncing with Apple native caldav/carddav clients?

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          • foliovisionF foliovision

            Interesting results so far with SoGo. Won't work with Apple Contacts 2498.2.1 on macOS 14, nor on iPhone Contacts no matter what handstands I do with the custom paths or not.

            /SOGo/dav/yourusername/Contacts/personal/

            I am able to connect with both CardDAV and LDAP with Apple Contacts on macOS but none of the existing contacts show up, nor is it possible to add new cards to either the CardDAV or LDAP version. Hallucinating.

            But SoGo does work on BusyContacts just fine picking up both address books and saving successfully back to the web version.

            There is no iOS version of BusyContacts and I don't want to tie myself down to a third party application to be able to use shared address books. The shared address book is supposed to work between my partner and I and later within the company, which means a server which will work with Apple Contacts.

            Why, or why can't someone code a CardDAV/CalDAV solution which is simple to configure and which works reliably with default Apple clients? Fruux did seem to be the solution until they abandoned the project.

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            @foliovision Thank you! This is all very useful information. I'll report back if I get anything useful to add.

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              Akamai bought Linode too 🫠

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              • D drew

                @necrevistonnezr And you've had consistently good luck syncing with Apple native caldav/carddav clients?

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                @drew said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

                @necrevistonnezr And you've had consistently good luck syncing with Apple native caldav/carddav clients?

                Yes, again with a simple setup. One private calendar/addressbook, one family calendar/addressbook, no groups or stuff like that.

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                • yusfY yusf

                  Akamai bought Linode too 🫠

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                  @yusf said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

                  Akamai bought Linode too 🫠

                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/43525

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                    Looks like Sogo is under new ownership:

                    • https://github.com/Alinto/sogo
                    • https://www.alinto.com/news/alinto-is-taking-over-sogo-pr-2022-06/
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                    • fbartelsF fbartels

                      Looks like Sogo is under new ownership:

                      • https://github.com/Alinto/sogo
                      • https://www.alinto.com/news/alinto-is-taking-over-sogo-pr-2022-06/
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                      @fbartels Oh wow, that was a quick change of hands.

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                      • girishG girish

                        @fbartels Oh wow, that was a quick change of hands.

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                        @girish said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

                        @fbartels Oh wow, that was a quick change of hands.

                        Talent grab, product pass?

                        Conscious tech

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                        • robiR robi

                          @girish said in Akamai Technologies, Inc. Acquires Inverse, SOGo developer:

                          @fbartels Oh wow, that was a quick change of hands.

                          Talent grab, product pass?

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                          @robi my money would be on the latter.

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