What's coming in 7.3

[ekevu123]

Is 7.3.1 stable enough to use now? I have received the update notification in my Cloudron instances, but it still contains a warning that it is unstable, so I am hesitant on my two production instances.

[robi]

@ekevu123 Not yet, as at least for me, it's looking like 7.3.3 may be the stable target.

[girish]

@ekevu123 It's best to wait for 7.3.2 (unless you want to test early). It's mostly stable, though there are a few bugs. I think we should have it out coming Monday.

[abargel]

@girish I get a "Email not configured properly" notification, saying the PTR record is not found, but then, when I check the DNS settings, all is fine. This has happened a few times since the upgrade. That's all I've noticed on my end.

[d19dotca]

In 7.3.2 I noticed the release notes mention a network graph, but I'm not seeing that network graph at all in 7.3.2 when I installed it the other night... is this only supported on maybe Ubuntu 22 instead of Ubuntu 20 for example?

* graphs: add cpu/disk/network usage

All I see are the regular CPU, memory, and disk usage graphs. No network usage graphs that I could find. Am I missing something obvious?

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EDIT: I just realized these network graphs are on the individual app itself, not the System page. A bit unclear from the release notes, but maybe the network graph can be added to the System tab too where it's an amalgamation of all the container parts for example?

[girish]

@d19dotca yes, currently the network graphs are only app level. We want to see how it works out before adding it to the system level.

[colonelpanic]

I got a notification that 7.3.2 is available. See screenshot below:

But then I get a warning when I go to settings that it is not considered stable yet. Is this true or has that just not been updated yet?

[nebulon]

@colonelpanic did you maybe manually check for updates recently? If so then the update will be visible but will not be applied automatically, yet.

[fbartels]

Hi everyone,

I did the upgrade today to 7.3.2, which seems to have worked great. I first did a bit of cleanup to remove some no longer mailboxes since catchall now works with all mailboxes instead of just mailboxes on the same domain.

I also wanted to play around with the new proxy and external link feature (at first I expected to find these as an app and did not immediately see the buttons for them on top of the appstore listing). What does not seem to work however is to directly restrict visibility of external app links to users, as the dropdown listing is just shown as empty:

After adding the app as visible for all users it is however possible to restrict it back to the desired users from the main dashboard.

Its a nice feature that this automatically fetches profile pictures for the apps

[nebulon]

@fbartels ah thanks for the bug report. We only moved that from the apps grid to the appstore view last minute and seems like something about the users and groups was not patched up. Will fix this.

We kinda went back and forth where and how to put applinks as they are not real apps as such, first you would add them in the apps grid, but that wasn't ideal. We can improve on the current situation as we go though and if it makes more sense to show it as an app in the appstore then maybe we can do that as well. Would be good to hear some more feedback on this.

[nebulon]

@fbartels fixed now, but pending a new patch release. We will wait a bit to collect more fixes.

[odie]

@nebulon is 7.3.2 still not stable? It doesn’t show up on my Cloudron (on 7.2.5) unless I manually check for updates. When checking manually, I get the message that 7.3.2 is not production ready.

Should I wait, or is 7.3.2 ready now?

Thanks!

Odie

[marcusquinn]

@nebulon Guessing you didn't intend for the new buttons to push out the right column in the App Store grid?

[nebulon]

@marcusquinn what is your horizontal page width in pixels? It should not overflow the 4rth item in the row. Also which browser is this and since I saw that, how wide is your default scrollbar on the right? Not sure why it renders like that on modern browsers, but maybe that eats the remaining pixels to make it overflow?

[marcusquinn]

@nebulon 2056 x 1329. I use Electron webapps created with webcatalog.io for all things I keep open permanently, to keep separate from general browser usage.

[d19dotca]

@nebulon any updates on 7.3.3 release? Not showing yet even as a beta, but it seems to contain a lot of important fixes and improvements over 7.3.2, was hoping it’d have been out last week.

[girish]

@d19dotca we just finally figured out what causes this mail container cert update issue. so, we are fixing that. it's implemented now, just testing it.

The issue was something like this: we update the mail container certs in the cert renewal task. However, certs might also renewed when you say install a new app. In that code path, the mail container cert was not refreshed.

[d19dotca]

FYI - Seems there may be a GUI bug in 7.3.2 which may need to be fixed in 7.3.3 (if it isn't already): https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8043/

[d19dotca]

It's been quite a long time since 7.3.2 came out and it seems there are a number of important fixes in 7.3.3 that many are waiting for but I still don't see that out even as a beta release. Is there any ETA for when that will arrive by any chance?

I don't mean to sound like a broken record on it nor do I mean to rush it, I'm just eager to see 7.3.3 as it contains some important fixes and just surprised it hasn't been released yet.

Personally I'm really looking forward to this section of the changelog (though there's plenty of other changes in the list too):

* remove external df module
* Show remaining disk space in usage graph
* Make users and groups available for the new app link dialog
* Show swaps in disk graphs
* disk usage: run once a day
* mail: fix 100% cpu use with unreachable servers
* security: do not password reset mail to cloudron owned mail domain
* logrotate: only keep 14 days of logs
* mail: fix dnsbl count when all servers are removed
* applink: make users and groups available for the new app link dialog

A side note: It may just be me here, but for what it's worth I'm wondering if a bit more frequent release cycle with smaller releases may be helpful here so bug fixes & quality-of-life improvements can get out quicker to users. New features can of course be held back / reserved for more 'major' releases as they'd require more thorough testing. Just something to ponder if you may have been considering that already as I see more and more apps go to that sort of development cycle so that upgrades are less risky for admins while everyone benefits from more frequent bug fixes.

[girish]

I have staged 7.3.4 now. We will start roll out in the coming days. 7.3.3 had a bug and thus will be skipped.