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  • S swiggo.jiggo

    I am about to buy the product and use for the first time, and am beside myself that you have no SecureFTP backup option. I mean, I know cloud storage providers are great and new-tech, but really? No basic simple FTP option??? I see this was requested years ago and is still not implemented? FTP is basic and bulletproof. Please please please add this option. Thank you!

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    #45

    @swiggo-jiggo It's on their list, however, don't hold your breath. Much easier to roll your own.

    Use the default local backup, which you can then FTPS where ever you like.

    No need to wait.

    Conscious tech

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    • S swiggo.jiggo

      Please, FTP support with backups! Thanks

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      necrevistonnezr
      wrote on last edited by
      #46

      @swiggo-jiggo You can do this with the rsync backup option to a local file system and then use rclone or restic & rclone to push backups to an SFTP.

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        #47

        I'm sure I wrote this elsewhere, but be great if alls that aren't currently being backed up can have things done with them in the meantime, restarts, repairs, updates, etc.

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        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          I'm sure I wrote this elsewhere, but be great if alls that aren't currently being backed up can have things done with them in the meantime, restarts, repairs, updates, etc.

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          d19dotca
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          #48

          @marcusquinn - yes, a huge vote for that. I think this was referenced before in a feature request too if I recall correctly. It is very annoying when I need to quickly restart an app and my system backup happens to be running preventing me from doing a quick task. I usually just get around this by backing up in the middle of the night but sometimes I want to also do a system backup in the afternoon but on my system it takes nearly 1.5 hours for a backup to complete so then in that time I’m forbidden from restarting an app for example which is quite annoying. Would love to see multi tasking for that. 🙂

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            #49

            Sorry I'm sure this has been discussed but has the plan been dropped to have a unified dashboard across several instances?

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              #50

              @avatar1024 we have to revisit this when we plan for 9.0 . currently, we focus on 8.0 - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11531/what-s-coming-in-8-0

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              • girishG girish

                @avatar1024 we have to revisit this when we plan for 9.0 . currently, we focus on 8.0 - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11531/what-s-coming-in-8-0

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                @girish said in What's coming in 9.0 (was 8.0):

                @avatar1024 we have to revisit this when we plan for 9.0 . currently, we focus on 8.0 - https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/11531/what-s-coming-in-8-0

                Sure, I just wondered as it wasn't listed in the list at the top of this thread.

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                  #52

                  @avatar1024 ah good point, fixed the top post.

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                  • P p44

                    @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

                    Add Hetzner Storage Box backend (based on rsync)

                    This seems to be very interesting feature...

                    Waiting also for native multiple backup locations ☺️

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                    #53

                    @p44 said in What's coming in 9.0 (was 8.0):

                    @girish said in What's coming in 7.6:

                    Add Hetzner Storage Box backend (based on rsync)

                    This seems to be very interesting feature...

                    Waiting also for native multiple backup locations ☺️

                    Is there much chance of Cloudron 9.0 being available in September, when we can expect Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS to be completed?

                    The storage box and multiple location backup options will be nice.

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                    • girishG girish

                      We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                      • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                      • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                      • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                      • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                      • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                      • Add sqlite3 addon
                      • Remove the global lock for backups.
                      • App archival?
                      • VM mode for apps?
                      • Branding of OIDC button
                      • Add more notification methods
                      • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                      • Mail attachment search

                      This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                      Dont-Worry
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #54

                      @girish said in What's coming in 9.0 (was 8.0):

                      Multiple Backup Destinations

                      This is dope, can't wait to integrate this in our backup process !

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                        chymian
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                        #55

                        allow for subvolume-level app-install (maybe via hook-scripts) on btrfs or zfs, so one can make subvolume-level incremental backus, which would be a massive timesaver and SOTA solution.

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                          Sorry for a small confusion: we have made a 8.1 available as unstable now to fix many of the regressions in 8.0. We could not make it a patch release of 8.0 because it also introduces some features like OIDC groups, Gandi PAT support, Hetzner Object Storage etc. Nothing major but we are still forced by semver to make a "feature" release and thus 8.1

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                            We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                            • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                            • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                            • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                            • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                            • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                            • Add sqlite3 addon
                            • Remove the global lock for backups.
                            • App archival?
                            • VM mode for apps?
                            • Branding of OIDC button
                            • Add more notification methods
                            • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                            • Mail attachment search

                            This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #57

                            @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                            Add sqlite3 addon

                            This is implemented now (for 8.2). https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#sqlite .

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                              Is there any update for the ETA of this version?

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                                @firmansi no ETA, we are implementing them one by one.

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                                • girishG girish

                                  We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                  • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                  • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                  • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                  • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                  • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                  • Add sqlite3 addon
                                  • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                  • App archival?
                                  • VM mode for apps?
                                  • Branding of OIDC button
                                  • Add more notification methods
                                  • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                  • Mail attachment search

                                  This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                  #60

                                  @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                  Don't run du for small disks (see)

                                  I have added a mechanism to skip running du . The code now looks for a /home/yellowtent/platformdata/diskusage/exclude file. This file can contain one filesystem (as listed in the first column of df output) per line. du for these filesystems is skipped.

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                                  • girishG girish

                                    We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                    • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                    • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                    • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                    • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                    • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                    • Add sqlite3 addon
                                    • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                    • App archival?
                                    • VM mode for apps?
                                    • Branding of OIDC button
                                    • Add more notification methods
                                    • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                    • Mail attachment search

                                    This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                    girish
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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                    Mail attachment search

                                    This is now implemented with Tika support in the mail server.

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                      • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                      • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                      • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                      • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                      • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                      • Add sqlite3 addon
                                      • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                      • App archival?
                                      • VM mode for apps?
                                      • Branding of OIDC button
                                      • Add more notification methods
                                      • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                      • Mail attachment search

                                      This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                      Staff
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                                      #62

                                      @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                      Branding of OIDC button

                                      Implemented in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/872705d58d3146ec6b6a5ac5aed6adbe9e245ab9 . The Cloudron name is used as the OIDC provider name as well. The apps will be adjusted one by one to make use of this new environment variable CLOUDRON_OIDC_PROVIDER_NAME

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        We will be working on the following for 8.2:

                                        • (9.0) Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                        • (9.0) Show backup/restore progress
                                        • (9.0) Multiple Backup Destinations
                                        • (9.0) Granular Backup schedule
                                        • Fix issue with removal of stale/failed/partial backups
                                        • Add sqlite3 addon
                                        • Remove the global lock for backups.
                                        • App archival?
                                        • VM mode for apps?
                                        • Branding of OIDC button
                                        • Add more notification methods
                                        • Don't run du for small disks (see)
                                        • Mail attachment search

                                        This used to 8.1 but see this post

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                                        girish
                                        Staff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #63

                                        @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                        VM mode for apps?

                                        We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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                                        • girishG girish

                                          @girish said in What's coming in 8.2:

                                          VM mode for apps?

                                          We will re-evaluate this in some future release. For the moment, this is out of scope. It's too complicated to implement a VM like system that allow readwrite containers and further allow users to define backup directories, services, exposed ports etc. We will stick to pre-packaged apps for the moment.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #64

                                          @girish how’s it going with multiple backup destinations? I’m really looking forward to this.

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