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BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning

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  • P privsec

    @brutalbirdie said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

    @jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad!
    I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
    They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for for any real work with BBB.

    The Ansible Role:
    https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

    Darn it. Was really hoping for a major win.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #66

    @privsec use the ansible role and you have a major win.

    I currently maintain multiple BBB clusters, Load-Balancers and Turn servers all via ansible and my work time for that is pretty much zero thanks to ansible.

    Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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    • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

      @privsec use the ansible role and you have a major win.

      I currently maintain multiple BBB clusters, Load-Balancers and Turn servers all via ansible and my work time for that is pretty much zero thanks to ansible.

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      @brutalbirdie Thanks for the fast reply, can I DM you with some questions?

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      • P privsec

        @brutalbirdie Thanks for the fast reply, can I DM you with some questions?

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        wrote on last edited by
        #68

        @privsec sure!

        Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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        • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

          @jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad! - And Outdated! 2.3.0 < 2.3.10
          I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
          They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for any real work with BBB.

          The Ansible Role:
          https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

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          #69

          @brutalbirdie said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

          @jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad! - And Outdated! 2.3.0 < 2.3.10
          I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
          They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for for any real work with BBB.

          The Ansible Role:
          https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

          Wow that's awesome thanks for sharing this Ansible playbook.

          I'm in the process of starting to learn Ansible myself as it is a great time saving tool for managing servers.

          And now I've a great "major win" to start with. Pretty cool! 🙂

          You think you can share some more?

          Cheers!
          Andy

          Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
          https://AutomateKit.com

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          • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

            @privsec sure!

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            wrote on last edited by
            #70

            @brutalbirdie Could yall include me too? I'm offering it (BBB) to a few folks as a small teeny service and it seems to be working okay/decent. About to add SIP support. Would love to learn more about how ya'll are approaching it.

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            • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

              @brutalbirdie Could yall include me too? I'm offering it (BBB) to a few folks as a small teeny service and it seems to be working okay/decent. About to add SIP support. Would love to learn more about how ya'll are approaching it.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #71

              @doodlemania2 @micmc

              Top notch roles from https://galaxy.ansible.com/geerlingguy
              https://www.youtube.com/user/geerlingguy
              Consider donating to him 😉

              Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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              • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                @jdaviescoates but its bad, really bad! - And Outdated! 2.3.0 < 2.3.10
                I maintain the official Ansible role for BBB and stay in close contact to at least 25 Admins from universities in Germany.
                They basically uniformly agreed that the Hetzner BBB app is unusable for any real work with BBB.

                The Ansible Role:
                https://github.com/ebbba-org/ansible-role-bigbluebutton

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                #72

                @brutalbirdie they may have updated, that's an old screenshot, but many thanks for the heads up anyway. Are you aware of meet.coop ? I'm a member and think it'd be great to have you involved too! 🙂👍

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  #73

                  There is a Big Blue Button integration in Nextcloud:

                  https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bbb

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                  • L LoudLemur

                    There is a Big Blue Button integration in Nextcloud:

                    https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bbb

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                    #74

                    @LoudLemur said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

                    There is a Big Blue Button integration in Nextcloud:

                    https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bbb

                    How is it performing, did you try it?

                    Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
                    https://AutomateKit.com

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #75

                      I hope that's just a BBB interface, like Greenlight, otherwise, that's a LOT to cram into a Nextcloud. FWIW, my company offers BBB access for a small monthly fee. Available in US or EU 🙂

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                      • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

                        I hope that's just a BBB interface, like Greenlight, otherwise, that's a LOT to cram into a Nextcloud. FWIW, my company offers BBB access for a small monthly fee. Available in US or EU 🙂

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                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @doodlemania2 It's like Greenlight.

                        Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                        • micmcM micmc

                          @LoudLemur said in BigBlueButton - web conferencing system for on-line learning:

                          There is a Big Blue Button integration in Nextcloud:

                          https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/bbb

                          How is it performing, did you try it?

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                          #77

                          @micmc I haven't tried Big Blue Button.

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                          • L LoudLemur

                            @micmc I haven't tried Big Blue Button.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #78

                            @LoudLemur it's... robust 🙂

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                              #79

                              Cloudron now has Greenlight in beta. It is a client for a Big Blue Button server. Is there any news on supporting Big Blue Button on Cloudron?

                              https://github.com/bigbluebutton/greenlight

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                              • L LoudLemur

                                Cloudron now has Greenlight in beta. It is a client for a Big Blue Button server. Is there any news on supporting Big Blue Button on Cloudron?

                                https://github.com/bigbluebutton/greenlight

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #80

                                @LoudLemur
                                Having BigBlueButton as an App in Cloudron could be possible but I highly advise against it.
                                BigBlueButton Servers should be independent and require a lot of resources CPU/RAM/Network Bandwidth and Storage.

                                Having this on a Cloudron Server or Cloudron App is really not something I would recommend.

                                Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                                • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                                  @LoudLemur
                                  Having BigBlueButton as an App in Cloudron could be possible but I highly advise against it.
                                  BigBlueButton Servers should be independent and require a lot of resources CPU/RAM/Network Bandwidth and Storage.

                                  Having this on a Cloudron Server or Cloudron App is really not something I would recommend.

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                                  avatar1024
                                  wrote on last edited by avatar1024
                                  #81

                                  @BrutalBirdie but there is nothing that prevents to have a Cloudron server dedicated to BBB with only that app installed. Yet it would make it easy to install so I'd stay it's still be useful to have BBB packaged as a Cloudron app.

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                                  • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                    @BrutalBirdie but there is nothing that prevents to have a Cloudron server dedicated to BBB with only that app installed. Yet it would make it easy to install so I'd stay it's still be useful to have BBB packaged as a Cloudron app.

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                                    @avatar1024 I agree. The real issue with packaging BBB was that it used to require a large amount of UDP ports to be open (UDP ports 16384 - 32768). Docker has a limitation that it runs a "proxy" process for every single port that you expose. This makes it infeasible to run such apps. There was some PR back in the day to fix this in docker. Wonder what's the status of that. 🤔

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                                      #83

                                      Right, https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11185 is the issue . I think the "workaround" was to run the container in host mode. Looks like iptable rules are created enmass despite disabling userland proxy though, have to check if I understood the situation correctly. https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/11185#issuecomment-1539313597 has a great summary, it seems they will fix it, we have to be a bit more patient.

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                                      • avatar1024A avatar1024

                                        @BrutalBirdie but there is nothing that prevents to have a Cloudron server dedicated to BBB with only that app installed. Yet it would make it easy to install so I'd stay it's still be useful to have BBB packaged as a Cloudron app.

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                                        #84

                                        @avatar1024 Good use case for the affordable big RAM & CPU VPSes from SSDnodes.

                                        Conscious tech

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                                        • robiR robi

                                          @avatar1024 Good use case for the affordable big RAM & CPU VPSes from SSDnodes.

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                                          #85

                                          @robi Thanks for this! Though I notice that none of their infrastructures is dedicated. Do you know the impact of using shared vCPU compared to dedicated CPU cores for CPU hungry apps like BBB?

                                          Say comparing netcup 6 dedicated core vs SSDnodes 12 vCPU?

                                          Also SSDnodes does not seem to have a renewable energy policy which is a shame.

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