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  • hexbinH hexbin

    @nebulon Some UX-friendly approaches for the several table-related issues:

    • Scrollable table wrappers (check)
    • Consequently (tables can grow infinitely wide) limit column lengths with CSS to a readable size, e. g. max-width: 40ch; word-wrap: break-word;
    • Consequently (rows can then have variable heights) top-align table cells
    • Support orientation in table rows with either alternating backgrounds or subtle horizontal borders (hover bg is already helpful - but only when your device has a hover state)
    • Wrap all concatenated data with markup (like group names in the users table, unlike aliases in the mailbox table) - reserving us the option to set entries inline or stacked. Ideally, use invisible list markup - commas can be added with CSS
    hexbinH Offline
    hexbinH Offline
    hexbin
    wrote last edited by
    #190

    Available screen space

    Still focusing on tables, but to consider in general:

    • When the task focus is on working with complex tables, the space should not be limited for the sake of the design

    -> Let the content width be a subject of user preference: make .content max-width (900px) class-dependent and offer a per-user or per-session toggle to swap a body class. The design looks good without the max-width, so there's really not much to change

    • Sidebar consumes too much space in narrow viewports (already mentioned here in this thread)

    -> Option to reduce the sidebar width to the width of the icons (see Discourse or GitLab πŸ˜‰

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      nebulon
      Staff
      wrote last edited by
      #191

      @hexbin thanks a lot for the detailed info. We have reworked those table columns with better widths then and also made some of the tables table-layout: fixed; to actually be able to control that overflow behavior.

      For "Wrap all concatenated data with markup", is this similar to the custom option to overwrite style based on user adding custom css? We currently don't have that option to customize like that, but it was also requested for other things already.

      Finally for the sidebar, we will see how to make that collapsable. It would certainly help on "nowadays" laptops around the 14" screens.

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      • humptydumptyH Offline
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        wrote last edited by humptydumpty
        #192

        Thank you for adding a "back" button on login pages. I keep my tabs pinned and that causes the OIDC string to expire and I had to manually delete that string from the URL. Now, I can simply click on back and then sign in. Less hassle now. πŸ‘πŸ‘

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        • robiR Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #193

          Is it time to revisit my list of ~20 UX issues?

          Conscious tech

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          • fbartelsF Offline
            fbartelsF Offline
            fbartels
            App Dev
            wrote last edited by
            #194

            I have not seen it reported here and am also not able to reproduce it on the demo system, but when i search for an app and enter the second character the dashboard breaks with a javascript error.

            Kooha-2025-12-04-09-13-22.gif

            utils-Cb1Rvih8.js:548 Already activated
            index-D64usbhx.js:41926 Cloudron dashboard v9.0.13
            index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
            index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
            style-D04uIdi2.js:2200 TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toLocaleLowerCase')
                at index-D64usbhx.js:2339:295
                at wrappedFn (style-D04uIdi2.js:1051:19)
                at Array.filter (<anonymous>)
                at apply$1 (style-D04uIdi2.js:1059:27)
                at Proxy.filter (style-D04uIdi2.js:930:12)
                at ComputedRefImpl.fn (index-D64usbhx.js:2335:25)
                at refreshComputed (style-D04uIdi2.js:614:29)
                at get value (style-D04uIdi2.js:1740:5)
                at Proxy.<anonymous> (index-D64usbhx.js:2525:45)
                at renderComponentRoot (style-D04uIdi2.js:5499:17)
            logError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2200
            handleError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2194
            renderComponentRoot @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5533
            componentUpdateFn @ style-D04uIdi2.js:6728
            run @ style-D04uIdi2.js:465
            runIfDirty @ style-D04uIdi2.js:498
            callWithErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2142
            flushJobs @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2313
            Promise.then
            queueFlush @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2245
            queueJob @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2240
            effect2.scheduler @ style-D04uIdi2.js:6764
            trigger @ style-D04uIdi2.js:488
            endBatch @ style-D04uIdi2.js:546
            notify @ style-D04uIdi2.js:779
            trigger @ style-D04uIdi2.js:766
            set value @ style-D04uIdi2.js:1589
            createVNode.onUpdate:modelValue._cache.<computed>._cache.<computed> @ index-D64usbhx.js:2477
            callWithErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2142
            callWithAsyncErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2149
            emit @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5388
            set @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5341
            set value @ style-D04uIdi2.js:1635
            createElementBlock.onUpdate:modelValue._cache.<computed>._cache.<computed> @ style-D04uIdi2.js:16237
            (anonymous) @ style-D04uIdi2.js:10083
            
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            • nebulonN Away
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              nebulon
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              wrote last edited by
              #195

              Kinda hard to respond within this thread by now given the various bugs reported. Maybe time to create separate threads for each bug report, so we can properly work and fix them, otherwise it is too easy to miss valid ones

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              • fbartelsF fbartels

                I have not seen it reported here and am also not able to reproduce it on the demo system, but when i search for an app and enter the second character the dashboard breaks with a javascript error.

                Kooha-2025-12-04-09-13-22.gif

                utils-Cb1Rvih8.js:548 Already activated
                index-D64usbhx.js:41926 Cloudron dashboard v9.0.13
                index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
                index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
                style-D04uIdi2.js:2200 TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toLocaleLowerCase')
                    at index-D64usbhx.js:2339:295
                    at wrappedFn (style-D04uIdi2.js:1051:19)
                    at Array.filter (<anonymous>)
                    at apply$1 (style-D04uIdi2.js:1059:27)
                    at Proxy.filter (style-D04uIdi2.js:930:12)
                    at ComputedRefImpl.fn (index-D64usbhx.js:2335:25)
                    at refreshComputed (style-D04uIdi2.js:614:29)
                    at get value (style-D04uIdi2.js:1740:5)
                    at Proxy.<anonymous> (index-D64usbhx.js:2525:45)
                    at renderComponentRoot (style-D04uIdi2.js:5499:17)
                logError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2200
                handleError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2194
                renderComponentRoot @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5533
                componentUpdateFn @ style-D04uIdi2.js:6728
                run @ style-D04uIdi2.js:465
                runIfDirty @ style-D04uIdi2.js:498
                callWithErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2142
                flushJobs @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2313
                Promise.then
                queueFlush @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2245
                queueJob @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2240
                effect2.scheduler @ style-D04uIdi2.js:6764
                trigger @ style-D04uIdi2.js:488
                endBatch @ style-D04uIdi2.js:546
                notify @ style-D04uIdi2.js:779
                trigger @ style-D04uIdi2.js:766
                set value @ style-D04uIdi2.js:1589
                createVNode.onUpdate:modelValue._cache.<computed>._cache.<computed> @ index-D64usbhx.js:2477
                callWithErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2142
                callWithAsyncErrorHandling @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2149
                emit @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5388
                set @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5341
                set value @ style-D04uIdi2.js:1635
                createElementBlock.onUpdate:modelValue._cache.<computed>._cache.<computed> @ style-D04uIdi2.js:16237
                (anonymous) @ style-D04uIdi2.js:10083
                
                girishG Offline
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                girish
                Staff
                wrote last edited by girish
                #196

                @fbartels The issue is you have a custom app without a "title" in the manifest. We have fixed this for the next release.

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                  KubernetesK Offline
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #197

                  Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

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                  • J Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #198

                    Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it? All I have is Navidrome installed.

                    System
                    Cloudron version
                    9.0.13
                    Ubuntu version
                    Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS Linux 6.8.0-88-generic
                    Vendor
                    VMware, Inc.
                    Product
                    VMware7,1
                    CPU
                    2 Core "Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6138 CPU @ 2.00GHz"
                    Memory
                    1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

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                    • KubernetesK Kubernetes

                      Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #199

                      @Kubernetes said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                      Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

                      Yes, that definitely happens to me too! Good catch, as I noticed it but forgot to report it. πŸ˜‡ I’m glad you brought it up.

                      @Jenova said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                      Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it?

                      I can’t say I’ve noticed any increased memory usage, for what that’s worth. πŸ€” Interesting if it is though.

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                      • J Jenova

                        Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it? All I have is Navidrome installed.

                        System
                        Cloudron version
                        9.0.13
                        Ubuntu version
                        Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS Linux 6.8.0-88-generic
                        Vendor
                        VMware, Inc.
                        Product
                        VMware7,1
                        CPU
                        2 Core "Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6138 CPU @ 2.00GHz"
                        Memory
                        1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

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                        J Online
                        joseph
                        Staff
                        wrote last edited by
                        #200

                        @Jenova said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                        Memory
                        1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

                        This is actually the available system memory and Swap and not what is being used! I have asked the team to fix the title to make this clear.

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                        • girishG Offline
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                          girish
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                          wrote last edited by
                          #201

                          @jenova @joseph it's not the "available" memory (which can be confused with how much more is remaining). I think the label is fine . That section is showing server information .

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                          • J Jenova

                            Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it? All I have is Navidrome installed.

                            System
                            Cloudron version
                            9.0.13
                            Ubuntu version
                            Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS Linux 6.8.0-88-generic
                            Vendor
                            VMware, Inc.
                            Product
                            VMware7,1
                            CPU
                            2 Core "Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6138 CPU @ 2.00GHz"
                            Memory
                            1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #202

                            @Jenova I can't believe you are running Cloudron with 1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap. No wonder "nothing works". https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/ even says 2GB is required. SWAP is handy, but it doesn't replace actual RAM. If you head over to lowendtalk.com there are still deals on VPSes with nice amounts of ram, and possibly large enough disk space (you will definitely need an extra backup destination though, don't rely on the same server as Cloudron, it fills up fast). Some companies I've used are: RackNerd, Dedirock, Servarica, Chunkserve, OVH (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/vps/#config, see pic below), Hosthatch - these are just some on the first page. I don't recommend any company with a "weird" name. I know, thats subjective, but I think it works.

                            I myself am using an SSDNodes 48GB ram server, with over 70 apps, mostly personal use. I took the long way, long ago, of working my way up to these specs as I faced the reality that, for some software, you really just need to up the specs and pay the price to avoid the headaches. I'm running a free level of Cloudron on an older KimSufi KS-A server, with Intel ATOM N2800 CPU, 2c/4t - 1.86 GHz, and RAM 4 GB 1066 MHz, with just the Cloudron, a Wordpress site, and Mastodon (1TB disk) and that thing needs alot of careful attention to run ok.

                            Good luck!

                            A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                            • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                              @Kubernetes said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                              Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

                              Yes, that definitely happens to me too! Good catch, as I noticed it but forgot to report it. πŸ˜‡ I’m glad you brought it up.

                              @Jenova said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                              Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it?

                              I can’t say I’ve noticed any increased memory usage, for what that’s worth. πŸ€” Interesting if it is though.

                              J Offline
                              J Offline
                              Jenova
                              wrote last edited by
                              #203

                              @d19dotca said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                              I can’t say I’ve noticed any increased memory usage, for what that’s worth. πŸ€” Interesting if it is though.

                              Yea might just be me then

                              @joseph said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                              This is actually the available system memory and Swap and not what is being used! I have asked the team to fix the title to make this clear.

                              Yep, I was actually just posting specs.

                              This is what it looks like:
                              alt text

                              @scooke said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

                              I can't believe you are running Cloudron with 1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap. No wonder "nothing works". https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/ even says 2GB is required. SWAP is handy, but it doesn't replace actual RAM.

                              Thanks for the information. I kinda figured this was the case. Don't really need the rest of the information as I use IONOs and get a 8GB RAM, 4vcore CPU, and 250GB space for $3.75 for 12 months (I wanted to leave and they said "Wait! Don't go!") and a free vps (the 1gb ram one) from Heliohost since I'm a moderator there and it's a perk. Thank you though.

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                                joseph
                                Staff
                                wrote last edited by
                                #204

                                2GB RAM is really not much these days. Have you analyzed further with tools like top/htop to see which process is consuming this? Also, linux does not let go of swap "easily" . I recommend just rebooting and it will clear the swap and see if the usage comes back up.

                                Also, can you open a new thread please, if you see the issue persists after the reboot? thanks!

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                                  #205

                                  I will lock this thread since technically 9.x is not really in beta anymore . Please open new threads for issues . Under Support or Discuss as you see fit.

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