Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports

[Teiluj]

Another UI thing:

• on the users page (https://my.demo.cloudron.io/#/users), if any user belongs to a lot of groups, then you need to scroll horizontally to access the "..." edit menu for any user:

However, in doing so, you loose sight of the user/username and thus it becomes challenging to edit the right user.
Additionally, the horizontal scroll bar indication, only appears at the bottom of the user list, not the bottom of the page.
Hence, if you have a good number of users:

• you first need to realize that the edit menu is hidden because of horizontal scrolling.
• Then you need to get to the bottom of the list to access the horizontal scroll bar
• Scroll horizontally
• Then you need to scroll back up to the user that you wish to edit, but then can but sure anymore since the username is hidden.

Currently, your best best in this situation is to search for the specific user hopping that you have enough information to do so.

Potentially, the "..." edit menu should "float" at the end of the line and be accessible at all time, without horizontal scrolling necessary.

Hopefully this makes sense.

[SansGuidon]

For me I miss 2 things on the UX part:

• the history of notifications
• a way to reload the main view on mobile. By default I end up on https://my.domain.tld/#/apps and I guess because of the URL pattern (#/apps is not an URL but a client side routing pattern) the only way to refresh the UI is to manually edit the URL to remove the client side routing part.
• There are other small glitches I encounter on mobile, like the Cron part is more difficult to reach by default as the button to configure apps it not visible by defaults in the main view also we need to do extra clicks to see where the "Cron" config is.

Other than this, it works great!

[nebulon]

@Teiluj thanks for reporting the group overflowing in the users view. We have changed that now to only display the group count for a start until we find some better solution to deal with the vastly varying size that column would require.

[girish]

@luckow said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

Is there a reason to set the 2FA button in the user profile to “display:none”? Cloudron v. 9.0.13

was a bug, fixed now. thanks for reporting.

[girish]

@msbt said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

After deleting a mailbox, I got back to the /#/mailboxes view but all accounts just show "Loading..." and nothing happens. Would be cool if it remembered the mailbox size or at least start collecting the data again.

this is fixed in https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/3a760282f15259f461e0db4181883ac9d82aac06

[hexbin]

@luckow @necrevistonnezr "untamed" either way

[hexbin]

@nebulon Some UX-friendly approaches for the several table-related issues:

• Scrollable table wrappers (check)
• Consequently (tables can grow infinitely wide) limit column lengths with CSS to a readable size, e. g. max-width: 40ch; word-wrap: break-word;
• Consequently (rows can then have variable heights) top-align table cells
• Support orientation in table rows with either alternating backgrounds or subtle horizontal borders (hover bg is already helpful - but only when your device has a hover state)
• Wrap all concatenated data with markup (like group names in the users table, unlike aliases in the mailbox table) - reserving us the option to set entries inline or stacked. Ideally, use invisible list markup - commas can be added with CSS

[hexbin]

Available screen space

Still focusing on tables, but to consider in general:

• When the task focus is on working with complex tables, the space should not be limited for the sake of the design

-> Let the content width be a subject of user preference: make .content max-width (900px) class-dependent and offer a per-user or per-session toggle to swap a body class. The design looks good without the max-width, so there's really not much to change

• Sidebar consumes too much space in narrow viewports (already mentioned here in this thread)

-> Option to reduce the sidebar width to the width of the icons (see Discourse or GitLab

[nebulon]

@hexbin thanks a lot for the detailed info. We have reworked those table columns with better widths then and also made some of the tables table-layout: fixed; to actually be able to control that overflow behavior.

For "Wrap all concatenated data with markup", is this similar to the custom option to overwrite style based on user adding custom css? We currently don't have that option to customize like that, but it was also requested for other things already.

Finally for the sidebar, we will see how to make that collapsable. It would certainly help on "nowadays" laptops around the 14" screens.

[humptydumpty]

Thank you for adding a "back" button on login pages. I keep my tabs pinned and that causes the OIDC string to expire and I had to manually delete that string from the URL. Now, I can simply click on back and then sign in. Less hassle now.

[robi]

Is it time to revisit my list of ~20 UX issues?

[fbartels]

I have not seen it reported here and am also not able to reproduce it on the demo system, but when i search for an app and enter the second character the dashboard breaks with a javascript error.

utils-Cb1Rvih8.js:548 Already activated
index-D64usbhx.js:41926 Cloudron dashboard v9.0.13
index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
index-D64usbhx.js:781 image loading failed, try to load /img/appicon_fallback.png
style-D04uIdi2.js:2200 TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toLocaleLowerCase')
    at index-D64usbhx.js:2339:295
    at wrappedFn (style-D04uIdi2.js:1051:19)
    at Array.filter (<anonymous>)
    at apply$1 (style-D04uIdi2.js:1059:27)
    at Proxy.filter (style-D04uIdi2.js:930:12)
    at ComputedRefImpl.fn (index-D64usbhx.js:2335:25)
    at refreshComputed (style-D04uIdi2.js:614:29)
    at get value (style-D04uIdi2.js:1740:5)
    at Proxy.<anonymous> (index-D64usbhx.js:2525:45)
    at renderComponentRoot (style-D04uIdi2.js:5499:17)
logError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2200
handleError @ style-D04uIdi2.js:2194
renderComponentRoot @ style-D04uIdi2.js:5533
componentUpdateFn @ style-D04uIdi2.js:6728
run @ style-D04uIdi2.js:465
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Promise.then
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[nebulon]

Kinda hard to respond within this thread by now given the various bugs reported. Maybe time to create separate threads for each bug report, so we can properly work and fix them, otherwise it is too easy to miss valid ones

[girish]

@fbartels The issue is you have a custom app without a "title" in the manifest. We have fixed this for the next release.

[Kubernetes]

Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

[Jenova]

Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it? All I have is Navidrome installed.

System
Cloudron version
9.0.13
Ubuntu version
Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS Linux 6.8.0-88-generic
Vendor
VMware, Inc.
Product
VMware7,1
CPU
2 Core "Intel(R) Xeon(R) Gold 6138 CPU @ 2.00GHz"
Memory
1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

[d19dotca]

@Kubernetes said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

Not sure if that already has been reported, but if I click on the refresh icon in the email event log page. the logs jump 2 hours back in time instead of refreshing to the current time.

Yes, that definitely happens to me too! Good catch, as I noticed it but forgot to report it. I’m glad you brought it up.

@Jenova said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

Is it just me or is version 9 using way more memory? Like I swear I wasn't swapping with 1 GB of memory before this but it could just be that I didn't notice it?

I can’t say I’ve noticed any increased memory usage, for what that’s worth. Interesting if it is though.

[joseph]

@Jenova said in Cloudron 9.0 (beta) bug reports:

Memory
1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap

This is actually the available system memory and Swap and not what is being used! I have asked the team to fix the title to make this clear.

[girish]

@jenova @joseph it's not the "available" memory (which can be confused with how much more is remaining). I think the label is fine . That section is showing server information .

[scooke]

@Jenova I can't believe you are running Cloudron with 1.01 GB RAM & 2.01 GB Swap. No wonder "nothing works". https://docs.cloudron.io/installation/ even says 2GB is required. SWAP is handy, but it doesn't replace actual RAM. If you head over to lowendtalk.com there are still deals on VPSes with nice amounts of ram, and possibly large enough disk space (you will definitely need an extra backup destination though, don't rely on the same server as Cloudron, it fills up fast). Some companies I've used are: RackNerd, Dedirock, Servarica, Chunkserve, OVH (https://www.ovhcloud.com/en-ie/vps/#config, see pic below), Hosthatch - these are just some on the first page. I don't recommend any company with a "weird" name. I know, thats subjective, but I think it works.

I myself am using an SSDNodes 48GB ram server, with over 70 apps, mostly personal use. I took the long way, long ago, of working my way up to these specs as I faced the reality that, for some software, you really just need to up the specs and pay the price to avoid the headaches. I'm running a free level of Cloudron on an older KimSufi KS-A server, with Intel ATOM N2800 CPU, 2c/4t - 1.86 GHz, and RAM 4 GB 1066 MHz, with just the Cloudron, a Wordpress site, and Mastodon (1TB disk) and that thing needs alot of careful attention to run ok.

Good luck!