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Openclaw - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot)

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  • robiR robi

    The latest evolution to stay is OpenClaw as it retains its roots and is copyright free.

    More here + backstory:
    https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

    The gateway really is the cool interface on almost any chat app.

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    timconsidine
    App Dev
    wrote on last edited by timconsidine
    #19

    @robi openclaw is much better name
    I just hope the code is much better and finished

    E.g.
    “We support iMessage”

    • “cool”

    “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

    • “aarrgghh”

    I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

    Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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    • timconsidineT timconsidine

      @robi openclaw is much better name
      I just hope the code is much better and finished

      E.g.
      “We support iMessage”

      • “cool”

      “Ah, but it’s a WIP”

      • “aarrgghh”

      I’m excited about Moltbot/OpenClaw but I reckon it needs another couple months to be complete / stable

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      wrote on last edited by
      #20

      @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

      I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @timconsidine I hear you. The experience is so different if you choose an option that isn't as polished yet.

        I would suggest Telegram or Discord to start as those work well. Haven't tried others.

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        App Dev
        wrote on last edited by
        #21

        @robi I have Telegram working. Need to configure some / tasks and skills to make it productive.

        Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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          wrote on last edited by
          #22

          Another day, another rename

          • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

          Apparently they're sticking with this now.

          Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
          Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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            wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
            #23

            The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

            • https://github.com/steipete

            6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

            Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
            Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              Another day, another rename

              • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

              Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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              timconsidine
              App Dev
              wrote on last edited by
              #24

              @marcusquinn started packaging it ....

              Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                The creator's been pretty active with bots to build bots:

                • https://github.com/steipete

                6e01d515-74d9-449b-8c6a-4195198996e2-image.png

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                timconsidine
                App Dev
                wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                #25

                @marcusquinn

                Interesting : now I see that many of his creations are listed as plugins/extensions within moltbot/openclaw


                "Ship beats perfect"

                Ha ! Don't I know it (from packaging moltbot).
                Far be it from me to challenge this, but I think he should revise his approach.
                "Shipped and properly working, not incomplete, beats perfect" might be better.

                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  Another day, another rename

                  • https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

                  Apparently they're sticking with this now.

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                  #26

                  @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                  Another day, another rename

                  The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                  • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                    @marcusquinn said in Openclawd - your free open-source AI personal assistant (formerly Clawdbot & Moltbot):

                    Another day, another rename

                    The title of this thread has openclawd instead of openclaw

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                    marcusquinn
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                    #27

                    @jdaviescoates sorted

                    Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                    Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                      robi
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                      #28

                      This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
                      https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

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                      Conscious tech

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                      • robiR robi

                        This thread is inspirational for how to tier your model usage, especially if you're hitting token limits.
                        https://x.com/code_rams/status/2017684921091772591

                        image.png

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #29

                        @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @robi Sonnet 5 is due out this week, don't think we'll need anything else once that is 🙂

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                          #30

                          @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                          Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                          As does this config optimization
                          OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

                          Conscious tech

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                          • robiR robi

                            @marcusquinn token burn is real, and default config doesn't care.

                            Hence openrouter's auto route helps

                            As does this config optimization
                            OC efficient config - https://x.com/alexxzay/status/2017824548276600914

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                            timconsidine
                            App Dev
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #31

                            @robi thanks for that link
                            still working on my openclaw package, so that will be useful (incorporated if I can)

                            Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                              crazybrad
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                              #32

                              As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                              Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                              • C crazybrad

                                As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                                Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                                wrote on last edited by timconsidine
                                #33

                                @crazybrad I have very similar thoughts & cautions.

                                • packaging it because it looks cool and fun to learn what the fuss is about
                                • I would NEVER deploy this on a primary working computer like desktop/laptop
                                • deploying it in a container seems like it could be viable

                                I have a feeling that Agent Zero is much better than Openclaw, but I can't really say that until I have test Openclaw fairly. So continuing on the package "just in case" it can help me or others.

                                Indie app dev, scratching my itches, lover of Cloudron PaaS, communityapps.appx.uk

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                                • C crazybrad

                                  As an AI practitioner with our own AI server and projects, I was excited about testing this agent as well - until I read this article about ClawDBot Vulnerabilities.
                                  Now I'm thinking about whether I want to explore this, but at least, perhaps I will try it using a machine and digital presence that is separate, apart and isolated from everything that matters!

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                                  robi
                                  wrote on last edited by robi
                                  #34

                                  @crazybrad no fear, the enchanting experience is key.

                                  Conscious tech

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                                    crazybrad
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                                    #35

                                    @timconsidine I think "containerizing" is a great and much safer approach. I would just not use real accounts: email, social, etc. The fact that you are doing this might encourage me to create some test accounts and try it:) @robi Excellent point! "Mirror, mirror on the wall... whose the smartest one of all:)"

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                                      DualOSWinWiz
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                                      #36

                                      I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                                      • D DualOSWinWiz

                                        I was thinking few roles for clawdbot / openclaw / agentzero as a bookeeper who with giving access to irs taxcode and postgress database ask him to be my accountant. Still thinking about it but i have to free few weekends for this. Any thoughts / suggestions?

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                                        marcusquinn
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #37

                                        @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

                                        Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                        Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                          @DualOSWinWiz exactly the kind of thing this is for — go for it!

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                                          #38

                                          @marcusquinn but the necessary requirement is to need 2 more bots one bot to audit bookeeper so its kind of more complex and then the 3rd bot as the decision maker so decision should always be 2 to 1. Otherwise it could be a mess. Still thinking

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