Outline - a Notion-like open source app
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@klawitterb yes, I don't see why not. But as mentioned, I am speaking beyond my expertise here
I think @nebulon will know how much work it is on Cloudron side. -
@klawitterb said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
as another addon
Yes, oidc should definitely be an addon (even better if one could just add addons during runtime of an app, so that one does not need to remove and reinstall apps to enable it). But instead of going third party it should be something native to the stack, like the https://docs.cloudron.io/packaging/addons/#proxyauth addon to benefit from existing sessions and the 2fa Cloudron already provides.
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So I was curious about my proposal and just tried this. Seems to work quote well. Much easier than setting up a fully fledged identity provider like keycloak imho.
Basically dex is a go app which is controlled by a yaml config. Currently just running it inside the outline app itself with a little nginx proxy in front of it. When logging in it redirects to the login mask from dex which then authenticates the user from cloudrons LDAP. -
@klawitterb Nice find and R&D! Looks like this might be just the thing for making Cloudron's LDAP useable by external apps:
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Update available: Outline v0.63.0
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Now that Cloudron adds authentication headers with the proxyAuth addon, maybe the easiest solution to integrate authentication is to use those headers in outline. I guess that might be as simple as adding a new file to the /server/routes/auth/providers dir. This would simplify the cloudron package because it wouldn't have to set up and run keycloak.
https://github.com/outline/outline/tree/main/server/routes/auth/providers
Then the only barrier to packaging for cloudron would be the hypothetical s3/minio addon mentioned above.
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@infogulch I think that's doable. I'll see if I can get it working.
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Update available: Outline v0.64.3
PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth
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@nj said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
PS: Still no time to look into auth using Cloudron ProxyAuth
praying that you'll find the time! Hopefully then @staff will be able to take it from from there get this app into the App Store! (perhaps they could take a look at adding the ProxyAuth too? )Edit: or perhaps another better/simpler(I've no idea if it's either, rieally!
) option would be to connect the outline app to the Cloudron LDAP Directory Server https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#directory-server= ? -
@jdaviescoates I've got this running using dex serving as a connection between oidc and cloudron ldap. Works pretty well.
If you're interested you can find the code in my repo https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline -
@klawitterb that's great, thanks! But I wanna get Outline in the App Store.
Hopefully @staff can take a look at both these custom Outline packages and do whatever needs doing to get them into the store
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Perhaps AppFlowy can offer an alternative in the meantime?
Local installers available:
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Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked herehttps://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314
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@Vikas-jk said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
Outline is paid, it is better to add a free plan also.
There are also free and open source notion alternatives like Logseq or focalboard which can be checked herehttps://developingdaily.com/article/technology/best-notion-alternatives-open-source-and-free/314
Hosted Outline is paid, that doesn't apply to self-hosted. Outline is also free (as in freedom) open source software too.
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Update available: Outline v0.65.2
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There is an update for the latest version v0.66.3
I forgot to put it here earlier.Founder & OpenSource Lover. My Cloudron Apps
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The implementation of https://git.apehost.de/cloudron-apps/outline seems to be working. Is there some plan to publish it in the store? @staff
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@matbrgz don't see why not, we will take a look shortly. Thanks for packging this!
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@girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.
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@matbrgz said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
@girish sorry to bother you again about this, could you please take a look here? This app is vital to my company.
And not just you either, it's the second most upvoted app request on the wishlist after Wireguard VPN. Be great to have it on Cloudron!
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Yup, @vladimir-d is looking into this next week.
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So after investigation, the situation is this:
- Outline does not support any local authentication i.e it has no local user database.
- The developers have indicated that there is possibly LDAP in the enterprise version of the product. I haven't tried that, so I don't know if it's there.
- Authentication can be done via Google/GitHub (?) and other external services.
- OpenID is supported
Current package is using dex to bridge OpenID connect and Cloudron LDAP. This can be difficult to migrate in the long run (and is also two really apps in one).
So, we can't provide Outline immediately. We are going to first add OpenID connect as an addon. We used to have OAuth before as addon that did not work out well. We will try this for 7.4.
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@girish It has never been easy to run. I had it running once years ago using Google or Slack, all hand-rolled and installed, and had to use this super niche code tweak that anyone who ever found it once could never find it again.
Just now I went over to the site to try to login with Slack... failed. I know this is a cool app, but I don't think it is going to be worth the hassle getting it to work. Focus on something else!A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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@girish said in Outline - a Notion-like open source app:
add OpenID connect as an addon
Having OpenID Connect as an addon sounds great to me.
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@scooke yeah, the upstream author has indicated that they won't accept changes not related to their SaaS. But maybe this has changed because they offer selfhosted plans. In any case, having OIDC in Cloudron won't hurt.
Also, I think I remember seeing the one line patch you mentioned...
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@girish You've proba already seen it, but apparently Yunohost has this running. I'll check. Maybe their setup can help.
A life lived in fear is a life half-lived
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@scooke We have it running on Cloudron as well. Just not sure if it's sustainable with the current authentication approach (dex -> cloudron ldap).
