Rust Desk

[stbg]

Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
(I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

FYI @girish

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg said in Rust Desk:

Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?

Looks like it's GPL
https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

Afaik that shouldn't be an issue with using it on Cloudron.

[marcusquinn]

@stbg Great find!

I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

Worth a read:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

[stbg]

Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

@marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym
aka on Cloudron.

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg said in Rust Desk:

With licensing being not clea

I'm confused. What license is not clear?

Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

[stbg]

@jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

@girish said in Rust Desk:

I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

This is the install script:
https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

[stbg]

@jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out!
@girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

[potemkin_ai]

Upvoting as well

[stevespaw]

OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

[stevespaw]

https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

[marcusquinn]

@stevespaw Also agreed!

[hollosch]

@girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

[overholt]

I'd like to see this as well.

[marcusquinn]

While you wait, I believe Hetzner has a disk image with this on it.

[visamp]

I'd love to have this as well. Plus 1

[jfrere]

@girish could you give this app a chance?

[open-trade]

@stbg @marcusquinn @jdaviescoates

Avoid this notorious fork of RustDesk please, it (hoptodesk) just changed the name and logo, and with an ugly webrtc tcp relay. Their main update is regular syncing code from RustDesk monthly. Never fix any bug or donate any feature. Ridiculous project, just like a parasite, shame of open source.