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  • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

    Note: keeping the installation up to date doesn't upgrade to the kernel (5.15 -> 5.19)

    • To check if you already have the new kernel:
      sudo apt list linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --installed

    • To install the metapackage for the new kernel:
      sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-22.04 --install-recommends

    • Otherwise: sudo apt install --install-recommends (add an -s to first simulate updates)

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    random_eric
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    wrote on last edited by
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    @necrevistonnezr
    How do you know that if the live patch is enabled?

    On the documentation, I only see that kernel 5.15 is supported and not 5.19.

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      @necrevistonnezr
      How do you know that if the live patch is enabled?

      On the documentation, I only see that kernel 5.15 is supported and not 5.19.

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      @random_eric I took my information from here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/ubuntu-22-04-2-download

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      • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

        @random_eric I took my information from here: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/ubuntu-22-04-2-download

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        wrote on last edited by random_eric
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        @necrevistonnezr
        How do you know that the live patching is enabled for that kernel?
        I just don't know how to check.

        -- edit --

        Found it:

        canonical-livepatch status
        

        returns

        last check: 23 seconds ago
        kernel: 5.15.0-67.74-generic
        server check-in: succeeded
        patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
        tier: updates (Free usage; This machine beta tests new patches.)
        
        last check: 1 minute ago
        kernel: 5.19.0-35.36~22.04.1-generic
        server check-in: succeeded
        patch state: ✗ kernel version not supported
        tier: updates (Free usage; This machine beta tests new patches.)
        

        So based on the pattern in the docs,
        the 22.04 hwe kernel will only be supported for live patching once the 24.04 LTS is released.

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          #19

          I was checking the livepatch status and received the info that I need to update the ubuntu-advantage-tools. I did that, and during the installation it told me that I need Kernel 6.2.0-26-generic, which has been now automatically been scheduled for installation. Feeling brave, I did a reboot. Now I am indeed running 6.2.0-26-generic:

          last check: 38 minutes ago
          kernel: 6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1-generic
          server check-in: succeeded
          kernel state: ✓ kernel is supported by Canonical until 2024-08-13
          patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
          

          No issues so far with Cloudron or any apps (although, to be honest, I don't even know if there are any problems to expect when doing a kernel update).

          Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 22.04.3 LTS?

          Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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            wrote on last edited by nebulon
            #20

            At the moment with 7.5 only Ubuntu 20.04 and 22.04 are supported.

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            • nichu42N nichu42

              I was checking the livepatch status and received the info that I need to update the ubuntu-advantage-tools. I did that, and during the installation it told me that I need Kernel 6.2.0-26-generic, which has been now automatically been scheduled for installation. Feeling brave, I did a reboot. Now I am indeed running 6.2.0-26-generic:

              last check: 38 minutes ago
              kernel: 6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1-generic
              server check-in: succeeded
              kernel state: ✓ kernel is supported by Canonical until 2024-08-13
              patch state: ✓ no livepatches needed for this kernel yet
              

              No issues so far with Cloudron or any apps (although, to be honest, I don't even know if there are any problems to expect when doing a kernel update).

              Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 22.04.3 LTS?

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              @nichu42 said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

              Anyway, while I'm on it. Is it advisable to go to the recently released Ubuntu version 24.04.3 LTS?

              Ubuntu 24 is released? Where did you get this from?

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                Sorry, I'm talking about 22.04.3 🙂

                Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                • nichu42N nichu42

                  Sorry, I'm talking about 22.04.3 🙂

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                  girish
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                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @nichu42 that you can safely upgrade to

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    Is there any compatible issue with Ubuntu Pro and Cloudron if I enable this feature? Currently I am using Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS.

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                      #25

                      @IniBudi there should be incompatibility but afaik you don't need Ubuntu Pro for Cloudron. Any specific reason?

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                        @joseph
                        I came here with a similar (I think) question's asked by @IniBudi
                        I can't find anymore the specific of what I will claim, but ....

                        Once upon a time, I remembered that Cloudron was saying to not doing the update (maybe during the installation or the first login) that Cloudron was taking of them.
                        In that sense, (https://docs.cloudron.io/updates/) mentioned that; fairly, Cloudron do a backup before updating.

                        With that in mind; I was thinking also of activating Ubuntu Advantage on my Cloudron; but...

                        • Does that means that
                          • Cloudron lose control on the update ?
                          • I might create incompatibility because I don't (actually never) read the ChangeLog before updating ?
                          • ...
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                        • JOduMonTJ JOduMonT

                          @joseph
                          I came here with a similar (I think) question's asked by @IniBudi
                          I can't find anymore the specific of what I will claim, but ....

                          Once upon a time, I remembered that Cloudron was saying to not doing the update (maybe during the installation or the first login) that Cloudron was taking of them.
                          In that sense, (https://docs.cloudron.io/updates/) mentioned that; fairly, Cloudron do a backup before updating.

                          With that in mind; I was thinking also of activating Ubuntu Advantage on my Cloudron; but...

                          • Does that means that
                            • Cloudron lose control on the update ?
                            • I might create incompatibility because I don't (actually never) read the ChangeLog before updating ?
                            • ...
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                          wrote on last edited by scooke
                          #27

                          @JOduMonT said in Ubuntu Pro & Cloudron:

                          Cloudron lose control on the update ?

                          Totally, completely, assuredly, obviously. Why pay for this "pro" service when Cloudron already manages the server? Cloudron IS the thing managing the server, and by that, also Ubuntu. Choose one.

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