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What happened and what was the solution?

Very cool. FWIW, Phoenix Code can have two files open in panel view, side by side. You just need to turn off Live Preview to get that second panel. Also, even though it is the successor of Brackets, it has one odd requirement - all open files must live inside their respective Project folder. You can't just open a random file in a random folder, unlike Brackets.

Sublime Text can open two windows, costs USD 99, and you need to tile them by hand.

JEdit also has dual pane side by side.

Your solution is cool, and making it accessible on GH would attract attention. Do you have time for that?

Well, I made a ticket at the host (SSDNodes) and they responded saying they "made some node-level tweaks", and now the server is back to its flying speed. I couched it in terms of any relation to two recent kernel local-privilege-escalation bugs (Copy Fail, CVE-2026-31431; Dirty Frag, CVE-2026-43284 plus CVE-2026-43500), but they didn't specify what they did. But, it is back to nice and very fast.

@nebulon Yes, still timeouts. Just a few minutes ago the dashboard showing my apps loaded... AND SAID THERE WERE NO APPS INSTALLED!

Running ps aux --sort=-%mem | head shows me that yellowt+ 115187 65.5 0.6 10317968 328268 ? Ssl 02:48 479:12 node /home/yellowtent/box/box.js is using 65.5% of the CPU... is that normal?
I also checked for CPU usage:

shane@my:~$ ps aux --sort=-%cpu | head
USER         PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
www-data  458271 74.2  0.2 225084 131340 ?       R    15:07   0:20 php /app/pkg/wp --path=/app/data/public/ cron event run --due-now
yellowt+  115187 65.6  0.6 10323796 334180 ?     Rsl  02:48 485:34 node /home/yellowtent/box/box.js
shane     457394 64.8  2.4 2466264 1207968 pts/0 Rl   15:05   1:34 [celeryd: celery@b7c9aacf-af6b-4def-9981-7f24a752ed7c:ForkPoolWorker-112]
root         922 33.1  0.2 8575356 128632 ?      Ssl  May10 312:52 /usr/bin/dockerd -H fd:// --log-driver=journald --exec-opt native.cgroupdriver=cgroupfs --storage-driver=overlay2 --experimental --ip6tables --userland-proxy=false
message+  458377 33.0  0.0 1304600 21680 ?       Ss   15:07   0:00 postgres: user29397f7ab06c47eb898f8db21d530154 db29397f7ab06c47eb898f8db21d530154 fd00:c107:d509::1(54210) idle
shane      46768 31.4  0.5 22570552 256684 pts/0 Rl   00:11 281:31 node current/index.js
mysql        908 30.4  0.6 3079376 336300 ?      Ssl  May10 287:19 /usr/sbin/mysqld
message+   27167 24.8  1.2 5731612 594168 ?      Sl   May10 231:05 /usr/sbin/mysqld
shane      29722 15.6  0.4 22525668 206996 pts/0 Sl   May10 145:30 node current/index.js

I tried one app which was Not Responding, a github pages app, and it eventually started. I tried another, Syncthing, and it failed:

y 11 09:55:09 taskworker: Starting task 26861. Logs are at /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/d1047eec-0fb9-4f77-9e9a-befd6280935d/apptask.log
May 11 09:55:11 taskworker: Running task of type app
May 11 09:55:12 apptask: run: startTask installationState: pending_restart runState: running
May 11 09:55:12 tasks: updating task 26861 with: {"percent":10,"message":"Starting app services"}
May 11 09:55:12 tasks: updating task 26861 with: {"percent":30,"message":"Restarting container"}
May 11 09:55:28 tasks: updating task 26861 with: {"percent":70,"message":"Configuring reverse proxy"}
May 11 09:55:28 shell: openssl: openssl x509 -noout -subject -issuer
May 11 09:55:29 reverseproxy: providerMatches: subject=CN = sync.example.com domain=sync.example.com issuer=C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = E8 wildcard=false/false prod=true/true issuerMismatch=false wildcardMismatch=false match=true
May 11 09:55:29 shell: openssl: openssl x509 -startdate -enddate -subject -noout
May 11 09:55:29 openssl: expiryDate: subject=CN = sync.example.com notBefore=May  2 08:28:20 2026 GMT notAfter=Jul 31 08:28:19 2026 GMT daysLeft=80.77279122685185
May 11 09:55:29 reverseproxy: ensureCertificate: sync.example.com acme cert exists and is up to date
May 11 09:55:29 reverseproxy: needsRenewal: false. ARI {"start":"Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:12:24 GMT","end":"Thu, 02 Jul 2026 06:23:14 GMT","rt":"Wed, 01 Jul 2026 19:28:54 GMT","valid":"Mon, 11 May 2026 16:35:58 GMT","url":"https://acme-v02.api.letsencrypt.org/acme/renewal-info","ts":"Mon, 11 May 2026 09:28:27 GMT"}
May 11 09:55:30 reverseproxy: writeAppLocationNginxConfig: writing config for "sync.example.com" to /home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx/applications/d1047eec-0fb9-4f77-9e9a-befd6280935d/sync.example.com.conf with options {"sourceDir":"/home/yellowtent/box","vhost":"sync.example.com","hasIPv6":true,"ip":"172.18.18.120","port":8000,"endpoint":"app","redirectTo":null,"certFilePath":"/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx/cert/sync.example.com.cert","keyFilePath":"/home/yellowtent/platformdata/nginx/cert/sync.example.com.key","robotsTxtQuoted":null,"cspQuoted":null,"hideHeaders":[],"proxyAuth":{"enabled":false,"id":"d1047eec-0fb9-4f77-9e9a-befd6280935d","location":"/"},"upstreamUri":"","hstsPreload":false}
May 11 09:55:30 shell: reverseproxy: /usr/bin/sudo --non-interactive /home/yellowtent/box/src/scripts/restartservice.sh nginx
May 11 09:55:39 tasks: updating task 26861 with: {"percent":100,"message":"Done"}
May 11 09:55:41 tasks: setCompleted - 26861: {"result":null,"error":null,"percent":100}
May 11 09:55:41 tasks: updating task 26861 with: {"completed":true,"result":null,"error":null,"percent":100}
May 11 09:55:41 taskworker: Task took 32.599 seconds
May 11 09:55:41 Exiting with code 0
May 11 09:55:47 => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.18.120:8000
May 11 09:55:58 => Healthcheck error: Error: connect ECONNREFUSED 172.18.18.120:8000

Seems like it. I have lots of the below:

overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/42dc09e1ab2f10ed432cae69adfe96136fd88c3a605b4bc39f823c05cc53b679/merged
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/3ac8dfcbe628dcdf82236861f36b799f4392830bad9203669741cb2d9f1a0767/merged
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/74626746866ed86941b6e48831acf5f38a2feaa8297c3c4ad6851d4ec591c169/merged
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/1c7f0e1688f8c536f6d6081af1f98b8ba7033658f32a173e0eed1f41d62ae847/merged
tmpfs                                      4.8G  4.0K  4.8G   1% /run/user/1000
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4a208722f4e76888c9ff9b9a9a69c1180f28458b075b8bdbc2a81f17029acbeb/merged
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/091f8c6db63e863e5046a8ab27351f49f6eef980cadda12dd5d4e06acbbfa491/merged
overlay                                    709G  281G  392G  42% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/358bb3005eb75b4de6a19ac978ca6e9acffaf301e587c3c65278c383ca6588a8/merged

I do have two remote mountpoints which seem fine, but one is at 95%.

And the browser window would all be black. Macos, Chrome Version 147.0.7727.138 (Official Build) (x86_64)

Some apps are running. When I click on some labelled "Not Responding" its dashboard won't load, I can see in the logs May 11 09:08:09 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/66c962bb-24fa-4237-9166-459875c74e1b/data for that app. Then when I click back, the main dashboard won't load! This longer bit seemed to happen too when I tried to click to the unresponsive app's dashboard:

ay 11 09:07:50 apphealthmonitor: app health: 36 running / 11 stopped / 26 unresponsive
May 11 09:07:50 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/03233c73-df43-43ec-82ba-0518542ea09a/data
May 11 09:07:51 apphealthmonitor: app health: 36 running / 11 stopped / 26 unresponsive
May 11 09:07:51 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/040b01cf-5c14-4db5-ba54-83f3356cb466/data
May 11 09:07:52 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/05460bf6-5d11-4b75-b467-8725d7c07113/data
May 11 09:07:54 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/05b7c6ea-7452-4505-8345-46903fa89f1f/data
May 11 09:07:58 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/09c4a0ac-8f68-4d66-9466-634fed6b8e79/data
May 11 09:07:58 {
May 11 09:07:58   path: '/api/v1/system/filesystems',
May 11 09:07:58   status: 500,
May 11 09:07:58   error: ServerError [ServiceUnavailableError]: Response timeout
May 11 09:07:58       at IncomingMessage.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/connect-timeout/index.js:84:8)
May 11 09:07:58       at IncomingMessage.emit (node:events:508:28)
May 11 09:07:58       at Timeout._onTimeout (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/connect-timeout/index.js:49:11)
May 11 09:07:58       at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:605:17)
May 11 09:07:58       at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:541:7) {
May 11 09:07:58     code: 'ETIMEDOUT',
May 11 09:07:58     timeout: 60000
May 11 09:07:58   }
May 11 09:07:58 }
May 11 09:07:59 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/0daa5ebf-8507-4cdd-a657-01f41c0068fc/data
May 11 09:07:59 shell: df: df -B1 --output=source,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target /home/yellowtent/appsdata/113cef81-b36d-45ec-9158-82cf1309db37/data
May 11 09:08:00 appheal

Is there something wrong with my disk?
Last night while troubleshooting the dashboard wouldn't load and I'd get these:

I've seen a few more apps start up on their own, seemingly. And I've been able to manually start some other apps using either the Restart button on the app in the dashboard, or on the cli using sudo docker run -it cloudron/com.libretranslate.cloudronapp:xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but that last cli approach only works if I can see which images are running using sudo docker ps so if an app is stalled and not running I can't start it from the cli.

sudo cloudron-support --troubleshoot tells me everything is fine except
[WARN] Service 'mongodb' is not running (may be lazy-stopped).

2026-05-11T02:25:57.731Z apphealthmonitor: app health: 34 running / 11 stopped / 28 unresponsive is the result from sudo tail -f /home/yellowtent/platformdata/logs/box.log. What is going on??

At first I noticed my email not connecting. I tried one of my sites and it didn't load. I went to the dashboard and everything was suuppperr slow. I rebooted from the dashboard, and then ran sudo cloudron-support --troubleshoot and showed some services Failed. Mail wasn't running so I ran docker start mail, and that got it going, but still no apps, they were all Pending. I've rebooted at least 4 times now and most of the same things aren't working. I've just checked the Services in the daashboard and all the DBs, Mongo and FileManager are white or grey, and Redis are red. I've run sudo cloudron-support --troubleshoot and this is what it shows:

Vendor: QEMU Product: Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009)
Linux: 5.15.0-177-generic
Ubuntu: jammy 22.04
Cloudron: 9.1.7
Execution environment: kvm
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 v4 @ 2.20GHz x 12
RAM: 49327400KB
Disk: /dev/sda2       392G
[OK]	node version is correct
[OK]	IPv6 is enabled and public IPv6 address is working
[OK]	docker is running
[OK]	docker version is correct
[OK]	MySQL is running
[OK]	netplan is good
[OK]	DNS is resolving via systemd-resolved
[OK]	unbound is running
[OK]	nginx is running
[OK]	dashboard cert is valid
[OK]	dashboard is reachable via loopback
[OK]	No pending database migrations
[WARN]	Service 'mysql' is not running (may be lazy-stopped)
[WARN]	Service 'postgresql' is not running (may be lazy-stopped)
[WARN]	Service 'mongodb' is not running (may be lazy-stopped)
[OK]	Service 'mail' is running and healthy
[FAIL]	Service 'graphite' container is not running (state: exited)!
[FAIL]	Service 'sftp' container is not running (state: exited)!
[OK]	box v9.1.7 is running
[OK]	Dashboard is reachable via domain name
[OK]	Domain toutdo.com is valid and has not expired

Pressing Restart on those Services in teh Dashboard has gotten most of them running except Redis, MongoDB and MySQL. The logs for Cloudron Service say all the apps are waiting for 448.684 to update health. Not one app is running this time either whereas after earlier restarts some of them did.

Help!

None of your postgres commands worked for me. In fact, for the admin password change the first time I get a notice that ALL lines are ignored, like psql: warning: extra command-line argument "UPDATE" ignored, but when I repeat it the return is UPDATE 1. But then when logging in it tells me the details are wrong. I've restarted the app, and not. Same thing.

Even for what looks like an easy SELECT I get bash: SELECT: command not found .

Oh well, I'll delete it and come back to it in a few weeks.

I've been away for awhile and this have no idea what is going on. But, if L, T, and J are discussing it good naturedly, then all is good.

@timconsidine Probably? Not sure. By and large, if it doesn't show up in my Cloudon App Store I don't install it (with the exception of some of your apps!).

@seeker I think there are firmly held opinions about this, but hosting at home is more properly called homelabbing, or, running a homelab. I think there is a big enough difference in what you need to keep in mind between running a server (whatever shape or form) at home vs running apps and services on a VPS or bare metal server, not the least of which is going to be network access and security.

That article does make a nice point distinguishing "self-host" OSes from dashboard/docker management systems.

I think voting for apps is based more on the fact that enough people have been paying for a commercial version of an app and know about and want to move to an open source alternative. I don't think anyone here is voting for apps they have no familiarity with. That said, seeing what gets suggested has sometimes led me to see which other platforms might already have it (I'm using affine on my runtipi VPS, for example) and I see what the fuss is about there. My curiosity has led me to install runtipi on my Dedirock VPS where I have affine, Obsidian LiveSync, GrampsWeb, FlightLog, and Write-freely. I'd switch them all to Cloudron if these were available here. I've tried almost all the alternatives, and I've stuck with runtipi the longest (despite the stupid name). The rest just always, and I mean ALWAYS, crap out eventually and either the forums or help have been very very weak, or actually non-existent (no one knows what went wrong and how to fix it). Forget them!

I've been using AFFiNE on RunTipi for quite awhile now. It started with me just wanting to check it out, but not expecting at all that I'd l branch off from my well-established routine with Joplin and Vikunja, with a dab of Trilium Notes and Outline. Well, what do you know, it's now my second most used note and writing prep destination. SO, if it gets on Cloudron, I'd switch my instance to the Cloudron one (gettipi is more for trying out apps, for me).

I just want to say that this community fed, driven, produced work is wonderful. AND, I will always keep paying for my Cloudron! The people and the(ir) tech behind Cloudron has made this wonder possible. Thank you.

@timconsidine said:

I have another Ukraine mission, so going to be mostly offline for a week.

Safe wishes for you and the others.

My storage is limited, so I keep fewer backups. I almost always click "Skip Backup" since I prefer manually backing things up. Since so much is manual, I tend to lose track of which might have been backed up recently. So, then I need to click on the Backups, wait for that to load, see when the most recent one was and if it's worth skipping the backup again or if I need to back up. If I need to back up, I actually also almost always do that separate from the Update process. Why? In the past it sometimes times out, or fails, or just something goes wonky. Is it my system? Maybe? But this is what I'm working with. After that back up I then need to click on Updates and finally update. So, it would save me some time to hover over Backups and see when the most recent one is.