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@necrevistonnezr yeah well, I only have so much patience with people being unable to comprehend the meaning of "NOT AN OPTION". Shoot me, I guess...

@jdaviescoates good for you buddy.

If you must know: I have NINE cloudron servers, six of which belong to a different legal entity. There are strict regulations and contracts in place that don't allow them to connect to the same accounts/nodes, not even for a quick transfer. That is what I mean by: "ASSUME THAT IS A GIVEN". It really means that you can assume that there is NO ALTERNATIVE for me... There is absolutely ZERO possibility for us to do this the way Cloudron suggests.

The WHY:
We build apps on our own servers and then TRANSFER them to the client's server but we need a way to do so WITHOUT having them connect DIRECTLY. Again, contractual restrictions. (Ultimately a LEGAL ISSUE)

There SHOULD be a way to "fix" things manually anyway but Cloudron completely lacks this at this time.

So, I guess I will not be recommending Cloudron to my clients anymore because it's simply not feasible. I'm better off launching an applet on a cloud using a SINGLE line of code and call it a day. That's your loss, really.

There is doing it "your way" and then there is doing something completely and utterly INSANE. I guess nobody knows you're doing it wrong, if nobody knows what you're doing?

Thanks for trying to help, despite appearances I really do appreciate the effort but we clearly don't speak the same language here. I will not draw pictures next, I haven't got the time or nerve anymore. In plain old english: I'm better and quicker off without you (Cloudron as a whole, that is).

Thanks, this has been... enlightening.

@msbt said in Transfering apps to a new server SUX!:

@svtx there shouldn't be the need to download and upload, because backups aren't meant to be on the same machine/local. So you don't need that step. Just create a backup, download the backup config of that backup and import it on the new server. No need to download and upload anything else.

For the THIRD and LAST time:

I am NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT looking to import the god-effen-damed backup configuration!

@BrutalBirdie said in Transfering apps to a new server SUX!:

@svtx
Yes, then it should be exactly this https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#import-app-backup here

And where does it say on that page how to do what I am asking?
No, really. Did you even read what I wrote or are you on complete AUTOMATIC mode?

@BrutalBirdie No, nooo. I just want to DOWNLOAD it so I can UPLOAD it somwhere else. Absolutely nothing else needed. Am I speaking effing FRENCH or something?

Allow me to repeat myself one more time:

I'm NOT looking to import the CONFIG from one server to the other.
Assume that's a given.

For that reason alone it doesn't matter if it SHOULD or WOULD or COULD work.
It is NOT a viable way for me AT ANY RATE.

I am looking for a way to transfer my apps MANUALLY (ONLY!).

Maybe I did not make that clear enough, thanks and sorry. Not meaning to be rude but I am way past BEYOND the point of frustration already... I know, not your fault and all. I get it. I was merely asking to consider offering more than your internal magic way of doing it, you know... for us mere mortals out here.

@BrutalBirdie Thanks mate, I know how it SHOULD work (which still it never does but I don't want to debug it because that is not a viable option for me anyway). I'm saying that I do not want (in fact CANNOT) have the SAME backup on both servers. I should be able to act more freely on my own effen system, is basically what I'm trying to say

@msbt I know but it will OVERWRITE the new server's ENTIRE backup config. This is NOT desired.

it's not working. ever.

i wanna use rsync.

also, I may not WANT the same backup config on both servers. it doesn't just use it for the app, it overrides the entire server's config! that's NOT good.

Hi folks,

I'm beyond frustrated with two things in the Cloudron system:

a) the way the backups "work" (effen HATE, HATE, HATE everything about it!)
b) the way transfering apps to a new server does NOT WORK AT ALL for me.

Can we please consider the following:

1: DOWNLOAD the app as a zip on the old server.
2: UPLOAD the zip to the new server.

I don't care why you do backups the way you do, in fact, I'm willing to ignore it entirely BUT for that to happen, I need a better way to QUICKLY jump instances.

That would be SO much less trouble.

Thanks for your time reading this!

SVT

As long as it doesn't get nuked off, I can live with using another plugin, yes. Thanks for taking a look at it and I agree, no hosting system should EVER delete any plugins from a website without clear instructions to do so.

Fun fact, if I use any other SMTP plugin, then it stays...

Yes, and not once but TWICE now.
This is the plugin I've used: https://wordpress.org/plugins/smtp-mailer/

Well, that's the thing, I have! Then I went to install my own SMTP plugin and when I refreshed the page it was GONE.

That's on WP (Dev), of course.

Hi folks,
so this is BEYOND annoying. I have told Cloudron to stay the eff out of my emails (WooCOmmerce shop) and it simply DELETES the SMTP plugin on its on, time and time again. Is this some kind of JOKE?

There's some talk about a possible solution over at this thread already. This is ultimately not a "just Invidious" type problem. You might wanna chip in or subscribe to updates:
https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/10805/youtube-is-currently-trying-to-block-invidious-instances

Come to think of it, this feature may prove to be quite useful in several professional and private applications.
cough cough Transmission cough cough

Perhaps it would make sense to store the VPN configs in Cloudron's central network options then and allow to use them or the default server gateway on a per-app basis (in the respective app's settings).

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