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I'll just reinstall the app and allow Cloudron users this time. That should prevent the issue from even happening again. No idea why my password stopped working all of a sudden btw, I have'em saved in KeePass...

There should be a note added to this app that if provisioned without user managemend by Cloudron, there's no sane way to reset one's password. That in itself is incredible. Such a good app, such a dumb decision.

Anyway thanks for chipping in and confirming it was indeed not working right. I was starting to bang my head against the wall here.

Yes, the behaviour is exactly the same on there.

Steps to recreate:

Install app, leave user management to the app
Login to default admin account
Change admin username and pass (login works, tested)
Add credentials on the env.sh file
Restart the app
No users are being changed or added at all.

However here I'm noticing the following notice in the listmonk settings page now (because here I can actually login, as opposed to my actual site:

"Remove the admin_username and admin_password fields from the TOML configuration file or environment variables. If you are using APIs, create and use new API credentials before removing them. Visit Admin -> Settings -> Users dashboard. Learn more."

Removing the credentials from the env.sh file does not remove this notice btw. (seems to refer to a different config)

Yes, I know that but I'm sure you can see how the documentation is wrong, the forum mentions another thing and when presented with the actual file, yet another case emerges.

At any rate, I really tried ALL combinations here just to be sure. I even tried simple passwords without special characters to see if they break the line but that doesn't seem to be the case either.

Cloudron up to date: YES
App up to date: YES
Username lowercase: YES
Bitwarden: NO

The actual file:

The app's docs page:

Actually, on the docs page there are no quotes.
The forum mentions single quotes to be the proper way and...
The file itself already uses double quotes.

But as I've said already, NONE of them work at all.

But of course I did, always restarted the app and every time absolutely nothing happens.

I tried every possible combination of no quotes, single and double quotes too.
Admin username, my username, completely new user name. None of it works.

"The provided environment variables from the docs aren't doing anything for me."

Why do you bother replying if you're neither motivated enough to read my post properly nor willing to actually help?

I've used n8n to access the listmonk API using the API user. At least this way I could actually get a hold of my subscribers list. I'll leave it at that as I won't be using listmonk (or Cloudron for that matter) again anytime soon.

There is no working solution to this problem on this forum, which is why I've asked.

Is it possible to run an SQL query on the listmonk database? Can't seem to find that option anywhere but maybe there's a hack?

Hi there,

I need to reset the password on this app. It's using it's own user management.

The provided environment variables from the docs aren't doing anything for me:

export LISTMONK_app__admin_username=admin
export LISTMONK_app__admin_password=changeme

@necrevistonnezr yeah well, I only have so much patience with people being unable to comprehend the meaning of "NOT AN OPTION". Shoot me, I guess...

@jdaviescoates good for you buddy.

If you must know: I have NINE cloudron servers, six of which belong to a different legal entity. There are strict regulations and contracts in place that don't allow them to connect to the same accounts/nodes, not even for a quick transfer. That is what I mean by: "ASSUME THAT IS A GIVEN". It really means that you can assume that there is NO ALTERNATIVE for me... There is absolutely ZERO possibility for us to do this the way Cloudron suggests.

The WHY:
We build apps on our own servers and then TRANSFER them to the client's server but we need a way to do so WITHOUT having them connect DIRECTLY. Again, contractual restrictions. (Ultimately a LEGAL ISSUE)

There SHOULD be a way to "fix" things manually anyway but Cloudron completely lacks this at this time.

So, I guess I will not be recommending Cloudron to my clients anymore because it's simply not feasible. I'm better off launching an applet on a cloud using a SINGLE line of code and call it a day. That's your loss, really.

There is doing it "your way" and then there is doing something completely and utterly INSANE. I guess nobody knows you're doing it wrong, if nobody knows what you're doing?

Thanks for trying to help, despite appearances I really do appreciate the effort but we clearly don't speak the same language here. I will not draw pictures next, I haven't got the time or nerve anymore. In plain old english: I'm better and quicker off without you (Cloudron as a whole, that is).

Thanks, this has been... enlightening.

@msbt said in Transfering apps to a new server SUX!:

@svtx there shouldn't be the need to download and upload, because backups aren't meant to be on the same machine/local. So you don't need that step. Just create a backup, download the backup config of that backup and import it on the new server. No need to download and upload anything else.

For the THIRD and LAST time:

I am NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT looking to import the god-effen-damed backup configuration!

@BrutalBirdie said in Transfering apps to a new server SUX!:

@svtx
Yes, then it should be exactly this https://docs.cloudron.io/backups/#import-app-backup here

And where does it say on that page how to do what I am asking?
No, really. Did you even read what I wrote or are you on complete AUTOMATIC mode?

@BrutalBirdie No, nooo. I just want to DOWNLOAD it so I can UPLOAD it somwhere else. Absolutely nothing else needed. Am I speaking effing FRENCH or something?

Allow me to repeat myself one more time:

I'm NOT looking to import the CONFIG from one server to the other.
Assume that's a given.

For that reason alone it doesn't matter if it SHOULD or WOULD or COULD work.
It is NOT a viable way for me AT ANY RATE.

I am looking for a way to transfer my apps MANUALLY (ONLY!).

Maybe I did not make that clear enough, thanks and sorry. Not meaning to be rude but I am way past BEYOND the point of frustration already... I know, not your fault and all. I get it. I was merely asking to consider offering more than your internal magic way of doing it, you know... for us mere mortals out here.