@pHneutre the best solution at present is to change your update schedule to be every hour https://docs.cloudron.io/updates/#update-schedule then it'll do one an hour until it's done.

Cloudron can sync (although only one-way) user accounts. One Cloudron becomes the single source of truth. So yes if that Cloudron is down, and sessions within the apps on other connected Cloudron require login, it will be a temporary issue. Full two-way sync is a hard topic and also error prone with required conflict resolution. Given that virtual servers are very stable these days, I would go with a dedicated Cloudron acting as the main user-directory for others. Mostly this is also how we use it internally. The docs for doing that one-way are at https://docs.cloudron.io/user-directory/#cloudron

@humptydumpty said in Downloading backups from dashboard: It's not possible to download the actual backup from the dashboard yet. Looks like it is now possible if using tar.gz backups [image: 1733853062263-screenshot_20241210-175016_firefox.png] [image: 1733853062290-screenshot_20241210-175030_firefox.png] I'm hoping with 8.2 it'll be possible to do rsync to one location and tar.gz to another

The pinned tab is of the dashboard /apps/ and I always sign out before closing the browser. As for privacy extensions, I have only uBlock Origin (took out all the rest), but it's disabled for my Cloudron domains, so I've eliminated that possibility. I'll test on another device with a fresh firefox along with my VPN setup to rule out any browser issue. Most likely, it's my VPN/DNS settings. Funny thing though, my plan just expired with Torguard and I switched to Proton Plus and have an active month of Mullvad to test/compare them both. Issue is consistent regardless of which VPN I'm using. Any way, I'll run some more tests. Thanks!

@LoudLemur You could do that. No problem. You can specify the mail server location to be any SUB and pick any of the domains you have set up in Cloudron. To make things even wackier, you could use multiple subdomains like sub.sub.domain.com as the mail server.

@girish Maybe you can help me understand the API documentation. Below what I'm trying to set up: A n8n form that will give people the option to enter an address to either add or remove it from the list. However I'm struggling to understand what the payload should look like for the web hook request: { "nodes": [ { "parameters": { "formTitle": "Change List", "formFields": { "values": [ { "fieldLabel": "E-Mail", "fieldType": "email", "placeholder": "E-Mail@tld.onl", "requiredField": true }, { "fieldLabel": "Action", "fieldType": "dropdown", "fieldOptions": { "values": [ { "option": "+" }, { "option": "-" } ] } } ] }, "responseMode": "lastNode", "options": {} }, "type": "n8n-nodes-base.formTrigger", "typeVersion": 2.2, "position": [ 140, 240 ], "id": "ce3e3e25-8d70-420b-aaae-48acd5dc3bad", "name": "On form submission", "webhookId": "290cb5dc-0f99-42a2-b3e9-32d9ef27761c" }, { "parameters": { "method": "POST", "url": "https://my.tld.onl/api/v1/mail/domain/lists/test", "authentication": "genericCredentialType", "genericAuthType": "httpHeaderAuth", "sendBody": true, "bodyParameters": { "parameters": [ { "name": "members", "value": "={{ $json.Action }} [{{ $json['E-Mail'] }}] " } ] }, "options": {} }, "type": "n8n-nodes-base.httpRequest", "typeVersion": 4.2, "position": [ 400, 240 ], "id": "d223c671-6340-416a-affa-12966a42b2d3", "name": "HTTP Request1", "credentials": { "httpHeaderAuth": { "id": "swkFIAxjlW7JU6oB", "name": "my.tld.onl API" } } } ], "connections": { "On form submission": { "main": [ [ { "node": "HTTP Request1", "type": "main", "index": 0 } ] ] } }, "pinData": {} } ```", "requiredField": true }, { "fieldLabel": "Handlung", "fieldType": "dropdown", "fieldOptions": { "values": [ { "option": "+" }, { "opttld.onlion": "-" } ] } } ] }, "responseMode": "lastNode", "options": {} }, "type": "n8n-nodes-base.formTrigger", "typeVersion": 2.2, "position": [ 140, 240 ], "id": "ce3e3e25-8d70-420b-aaae-48acd5dc3bad", "name": "On form submission", "webhookId": "290cb5dc-0f99-42a2-b3e9-32d9ef27761c" }, { "parameters": { "method": "POST", "url": "https://my.tld.onl/api/v1/mail/domain/lists/test", "authentication": "genericCredentialType", "genericAuthType": "httpHeaderAuth", "sendBody": true, "bodyParameters": { "parameters": [ { "name": "members", "value": "={{ $json.Action }} [{{ $json['E-Mail'] }}] " } ] }, "options": {} }, "type": "n8n-nodes-base.httpRequest", "typeVersion": 4.2, "position": [ 400, 240 ], "id": "d223c671-6340-416a-affa-12966a42b2d3", "name": "HTTP Request1", "credentials": { "httpHeaderAuth": { "id": "swkFIAxjlW7JU6oB", "name": "my.tld.onl API" } } } ], "connections": { "On form submission": { "main": [ [ { "node": "HTTP Request1", "type": "main", "index": 0 } ] ] } }, "pinData": {} }

Good points and I agree. I’ve tried most, and they don’t perform even a fraction as well as Cloudron. Kudos and respect to @girish @nebulon @staff for all they do to make Cloudron the only viable offering of its kind.

@necrevistonnezr thanks. I have added a note in https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-22/ and https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-20/

Thanks for clarifying. Yeah I realized that a while ago, planning to do it differently, maybe even before the migration!

I will move this to Discuss instead since we don't have knowledge of netdata. Looking at an old thread, it seems @AmbroiseUnly , @imc67 and @cvachery may know more about netdata.

I think this topic is more suitable in N8N discussion since this can be achieved by integrating any AI agent through webhook to custom chat interface

@uwcrbc the branding change in platform side is quite easy. The env var is injected already with https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/daa8a60da282fc3c8bbccd4b2b1a4920c2b06812 . But the apps have to be updated. I think we should have this feature in 8.2, yes. And yes, the forum or the blog is the best place. Usually, we announce it here only when it's "stable" . Otherwise, there is a frenzy to update and we don't want to hose things if it was not so stable.

Alright guest search is enabled. Given that the search visibility setting by now has moved to user privileges, maybe some nodebb update expected to adjust this accordingly....

I guess making Hetzner advertisement helps: https://x.com/heyandras/status/1853306984076104128

@igaudette I've been using the built in mail server without any problems whatsoever for a few years now. I had to white/greylist my IP at the very beginning but no issues since.

Agreed. Cloudron is A+:)

For anyone wondering on the same question as I did: Dovecot seems to be a standard IMAP server for now, which seems to be used on majority of servers. It claims to be written with security in mind, which doesn't seem to help to avoid privileges escalations, buffer overflow, crashes (on the same page - below). Given the dominance of that mail server on the internet, it seems to be a go-to solution for many, just like Ubuntu, referred here above, is; so I wouldn't expect it to be replaced on Cloudron anytime soon. Given the self-confidence of the authors, that claims that running from root is not a big deal and not providing any easily ready to use solution, I doubt that many will go extra mile to implement that on they own; given Cloudron limited resources and luck of advertising and hence focus to be security first platform, dovecot processes will remain to be running as root. From the positive side, root owned processes are not opening any network port, so direct exploitation would be problematic. Hope that would be of help.

I saw today that Fedora Linux is targeting deprecation of Redis[1] in favour of Valkey due to licensing. That’s not entirely surprising given Fedora’s ethos on non-free software. As Cloudron only officially supports Ubuntu, and I don’t know what Canonical’s plans are wrt Redis, I don’t expect what Fedora does is a guidance to the Cloudron team. However, given that Redis is a core component for Cloudron I’m wondering if there are any plans to move to Valkey, as Fedora Linux 41 plans to. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2293631