@cpa If you blacklist heavily, that means you cannot use the mail server anymore, correct? As servers delivering incoming mail cannot connect anymore….

New address: https://pinokio.co/

Thank you for sharing your perspective – I’ll look into this further.

Well, I've just configured SMTP2Go in my Cloudron. I've got 2 domains managed by my Cloudron. So far test emails seem to have worked, so hoping it'll work going forward. Thank you everyone for your input!

Well that is interesting.. is should be able to be a web-app since it's written in JS/CSS & Vue. It's being packaged with Electron to be a binary, but I see no reason it can't be an app or even cloud connected app-as-a-service. UPDATE: This issue on their Github answers that question.

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@ccfu said in seeking server set up advice: intuitive I like that, thank you @ccfu said in seeking server set up advice: Hetzner I just gave them a serious look and impressed with what I seen, will be looking again tomorrow, thanks again

So has anyone been running cockpit on Cloudron? If so, what has your experience been like?

@robi I've been using Servarica since 2020 and have no complaints. I have two of those older Polar Bear servers, and in fact a newer "Black Friday 2024 - UniFied - UniFied FAT" on which I'm running a BTCPayServer due to having 8GB of ram.

There are a few no-code changes; drop-in replacements for Redis: KeyDB - https://github.com/Snapchat/KeyDB DragonFly - https://github.com/dragonflydb/dragonfly Another capable option is: Hazelcast - https://github.com/hazelcast/hazelcast My question is what would suit Multi-Cloudron 9+ needs down the line where things get more interesting?

Dedicated servers from OVH are well priced too, worth it in my opinion but it likely depends greatly by region. I’m in Canada and there’s only so many local options, with OVH servers being the cheapest by far but still very powerful. I’d only recommend OVH if you’re a pretty decent sysadmin though because their support is not the quickest.

@joseph said in Cloudron made an appearance on the recent Fireship video: Thanks for sharing, not heard of fireship before. The first link seems broken btw Thanks! I updated the link.

To bring up this issue again: With Keycloak there is now another app that realistically doesn't need to be seen by the everyday user - but they still need access to it if login e.g. to a reverse proxied app, etc. is done through it. So it would be beneficial to have the ability to hide apps either by group or at least "non admin users".

Hello @djxx You can find that file in the systemd mount file for the Cloudron backup. systemctl status mnt-cloudronbackup.mount ● mnt-cloudronbackup.mount - cloudronbackup Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/mnt-cloudronbackup.mount; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (mounted) since Sat 2025-05-17 07:04:02 UTC; 2 weeks 1 day ago Where: /mnt/cloudronbackup What: REDACTED@REDACTED.your-storagebox.de:/home Tasks: 11 (limit: 9212) Memory: 9.9M (peak: 18.1M swap: 2.5M swap peak: 11.1M) CPU: 25min 37.199s CGroup: /system.slice/mnt-cloudronbackup.mount ├─ 905 /sbin/mount.fuse.sshfs REDACTED@REDACTED.your-storagebox.de:/home /mnt/cloudronbackup -o rw,allow_oth> └─9487 ssh -x -a -oClearAllForwardings=yes -oport=23 -oIdentityFile=/home/yellowtent/platformdata/sshfs/id> Notice: journal has been rotated since unit was started, output may be incomplete. So the file in question would be: /etc/systemd/system/mnt-cloudronbackup.mount

Surprised to find this here! I've been developing apps for this since 2019. Yesterday, I finally made a Cloudron package for the Armadietto server https://github.com/rosano/armadietto-cloudron

Besides having a dedicated extra service which reacts, I guess this can also be achieved via sieve filters. However to make this useful probably some better sieve script editor/UI is required. I think that part is still much lacking in any of the clients we have packaged so far and Thunderbird's sieve script support is even more ancient as far as I can tell.

@BrutalBirdie I cant see that ANY German / and or European authority can justify to buy Microsoft products anymore. Microsoft has told authorities, ministries, etc. that their M365 instances are "sovereign" and that something like this CANNOT happen. And now it did. Since authorities are still bound by the "No Spy" Directive of the Federal Ministry of the Interior (https://vergabeblog.de/2016-05-17/der-no-spy-erlass-und-die-folgen-fuer-die-beschaffung-zum-vortrag-im-rahmen-des-1-vergabetags-2016-vom-28-april-2016/), Microsoft *should have a major problem. But since we're in crazy times, probably nothing will happen.

@andreasb you can check the sizes of docker images here - https://hub.docker.com/u/cloudron . But looks like it lists only the compressed size. Size of docker images is not documented anywhere . The 6GB includes many layers and the layers are "shared" across apps (the way docker works). We also hvae images on quay - https://quay.io/organization/cloudron . But I think this requires login, despite images being public . These sizes differ from dockerhub [image: 1747727630514-d133353a-28be-41af-87eb-f9806443b9b9-image-resized.png] [image: 1747727643538-435fe29e-0a7f-4135-9c28-7e1481c34c6f-image-resized.png]

@luckow That's a long thread. Will read it with a clear mind soon. Thank you!