Hello Cloudron Support, I need assistance with an internal app-to-app database connection. Context: We are using NocoDB and Metabase on Cloudron Pro. NocoDB is working correctly with the internal PostgreSQL addon (confirmed through Web Terminal using printenv | grep POSTGRESQL). Metabase was freshly reinstalled and is working normally. Problem: We cannot establish a connection from Metabase to NocoDB’s PostgreSQL database. Metabase shows this error: “No pg_hba.conf entry for host 172.x.x.x” The Cloudron documentation says that apps can access another app’s PostgreSQL addon via the hostname “postgresql”, and that the addon credentials can be used directly in other apps. We followed the guide: https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/connect-postgresql/ We retrieved the credentials inside NocoDB: CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_URL CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_DATABASE CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_USERNAME CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_PASSWORD CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_HOST (postgresql) CLOUDRON_POSTGRESQL_PORT (5432) These credentials work inside NocoDB itself, but Metabase cannot connect using them. It looks like the Metabase container is not allowed to access the NocoDB PostgreSQL addon. Issue: We are unable to locate any “Access Control”, “Network Policy”, or “Database addon permissions” screen in the current Cloudron UI for the NocoDB app. Without these options, we cannot confirm whether Metabase is allowed to reach the internal PostgreSQL service of NocoDB. What we need clarified: Where exactly, in the current Cloudron UI, can we allow Metabase to access NocoDB’s PostgreSQL addon? (or confirm if this access is automatically allowed) Does Cloudron require any explicit permission or network configuration for one app (Metabase) to connect to another app’s PostgreSQL addon? Is the “postgresql” hostname the correct one for inter-app communication in this scenario? If additional configuration is required, could you provide the exact step-by-step instructions? This is blocking our setup, and we would appreciate detailed guidance. Thank you.

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Thanks for the honest feedback, always appreciated! The left side-bar was commented on by others before. We plan to make that collapsable (on mobile it already is, so this is more about deciding which collapsable style we want to go with) for the next release. Similar to the quick actions, like opening the logs viewer for an app. Currently, the ... button on all items in the UI collects all actions. With the next release we will look into all those and pick common ones to provide as direct actions on the list items.

Dividing into technologies and providers, I think, would continue to be confusing as it suggests that the providers DO NOT offer those technologies. Cloudron gets a lot of ppl new to self-hosting using it, which is a good thing, and the fewer the questions and confusions the better. The list, currently alphabetical, works perfectly fine.

So, use (and pay for) an infrastructure host to run an infrastructure host??

@d19dotca Thanks. I'm on Claude Max ($200/month) at the mo, and using heavily most days. Opus 4.5 ain't cheap with the API, but I think you can get by with Sonnet or Gemini for most general tasks. I just need that extra architecture intelligence for developing anything from scratch. I think they are all generalists, though. What I need is more controlled design patterns, and less repeating information that's specific to my infrastructure. Hence this repo. I think this kind of setup is going to be the main differentiator in how much value anyone can get from AI, as the generalist abilities are fine, but just too time-consuming to keep repeating yourself inconsistently with. The real leverage is this kind of progressive knowledge pattern of main agents and subagents. That's the best explainer I can give in a few words, the full explainer is just the repo itself. Like any good codebase (and clear English is now a programming language), the best systems are ones that are self-explanatory. Yeah, if you're not making money from it directly, it's a tough balance. I think in that case API usage and a lot of discipline on token usage is needed, which again this sort of setup is designed to continually do. I think the winners in AI are going to be those that can compress and manage context efficiently and with clear organisation. Hope it's at least given you some inspiration. As much as I'm happy with the tools I'm using (above), I have tried to follow standards for naming and organisation, so it can be used with any other AI interfaces. I just only have time to test what I use.

Big Love @d19dotca

Nice. Thank you. That will do. Got it bookmarked.

The fix for this to clear the search filter on ESC if the view is active: https://git.cloudron.io/platform/box/-/commit/425e196dfc4f4c7e31870f36df7cab0417f7a523

Haven't encountered such timeouts from thunderbird, unless the network is actually flaky. Maybe check if both ipv4 and ipv6 are setup but only one works? Could be that thunderbird (probably relying on the system's network interface selector) sometimes picks one of the two which resolves but does not route.

@nebulon I had a previous Minio backup destination which had started to fail due to an incorrect region setting (?), so I made a new one using Minio. BUT, I had not changed the setting "Store automatic-update backups here" to the new one. Yeah, it would start by backing up, I could see it in the top part of the app dashboard, then I would look at my other screen to work, and a few minutes later look back and it was running, like it was finished. But the green arrow was there, and it was only a few minutes, like 2 or 3, so I was thinking there is no way it backed up, downloaded the new images, reconfigured and everything in that short amount of time. So I started watching and yeah, it would hit a point early on the backup, then the screen would flash and reload in an instant and just be running again. Not even a fail, or "starting" notice... just running.

Ok I did it and it works. @rstockm FYI, here is how I did it : Install LAMP and open the terminal Cd to the web root directory cd /app/data/public Download the Latest LinkStack Release LATEST_URL=$(curl -s https://api.github.com/repos/LinkStackOrg/LinkStack/releases/latest \ | grep "browser_download_url" \ | grep "linkstack.zip" \ | cut -d '"' -f 4) wget -O linkstack.zip "$LATEST_URL" unzip -o linkstack.zip rm linkstack.zip Remove Cloudron’s LAMP Default index.php rm index.php Fix folder structure LinkStack is extracted inside a folder named linkstack/. Move everything to the real web root: mv linkstack/* ./ mv linkstack/.* ./ 2>/dev/null || true rmdir linkstack Fix permissions chown -R www-data:www-data /app/data/public Restart the app in Cloudron Open the URL and follow the LinkStack setup installation guide.

@jdaviescoates Thank you for the notes. I already read the post. I will watch the video; however, there's no transcript for it, like on YouTube. I've to watch the full video