@fbartels Just to be clear, I'm using one license for one client and that client has multiple employees. If I was using Cloudron for multiple clients, I'd want to use a different installation for each client for sure.

Yeah, it's not too hard to set up. But you have to educate all your users to install the client side certs on their OS/browser and also how to remove them etc. They also most likely break all the mobile apps. Of course, it's useful, no doubt but it's really meant for a niche set of use cases and that too in enterprises where they can preinstall these certs into the laptops and devices. That said, you are right that it's probably easy to implement

@timconsidine Yes I have no doubt it requires a lot of times. My point is that the apps added are so random... You try to please everyone but the paid subscription is more adapted to business users. If you would focus on adding more apps that can help business growth and save money, you would have much more paid users. I own many businesses and there are a lot of open source apps that can help us scale and minimize our costs. Some have been voted many times here, but despite this, they never been added. I understand you may want to prioritize simpler apps to manage but is it the main point of paying Cloudron, to get complex apps fully managed? I have seen a lot of users posting on this forum and say they would pay a higher subscription to have access to more business-oriented apps but all these replies seem ignored. I'm not saying increase your price (pls folks don't throw me rocks lol) but if you limit good apps just because you feel we don't pay enough to justify the maintenance costs, then I believe you should really considering a new plan that give access to those premium apps. What you have to lose doing this? For a business paying 30$ or 40$ it's nothing. More revenue for you, make your business users happy. Seem a win-win.

@DanTheMan : Thank you for your post. Got netbird-server running on a VPS. Now I wanted to install it on a VM with docker running in Proxmox. Nating to the reqired ports is set, firewallports are open and even in one trial switched off. Same error. The public-domain was reachable < 45sec. Therefore no installation. Now my questions: does anyone have netbird running in a LXC with docker in Proxmox and could help me out with some idea? Or does netbird have a problem with nating in general? I couldn't find any information on nating and netbird. Thank you for your help. Anton

FYI the migration to Hetzner Storage Box coming from Contabo Object Storage was worth it and fixed all failures related to backups whether it was in term of stability or duration. I didn't encounter issues yet, despite I'm using encrypted backups and i've plenty of apps including Nextcloud but I don't have as much data on it.

@g66lol Don't know anything about Veilid, but yeah, definitely some we-know-best vibes. Creators prerogative, I guess.

@marcusquinn Sorry missed that part

You may also check this post if you are technically skilled with wireguard and a public VPS.

@AartJansen it's a fair question. The app wishlist is just that - a wish list. The apps listed there are not part of our plans or roadmap. I recall we used to do an 'in progress' tag to some of the apps but this didn't work out well because we simply cannot promise when apps will get packaged. FWIW, we don't have some internal/private timeline for the apps to be packaged. Our main priority is always the platform and the updates of existing apps. New apps have low priority. If there is something we can do to make what I said clearer (to other/new users), we can adjust the forum accordingly. Maybe some header text, nav bar text...

Thanks, I can confirm this. The mails just did not show up in the queue on the web frontend which I find a bit confusing.

@nebulon True, but he didn't specify what client he uses. Matrix does have the turn server set up and I found that a dedicated turn server works much more reliably.

@msbt yes, exactly. It will also get into error state only after some time (because it will retry a lot)...

@fbartels said in How do you handle (auto/manual) updating apps with confidence?: @joseph said in How do you handle (auto/manual) updating apps with confidence?: based on the update schedule Which just to have it said, could be adjusted to install a new version every hour. https://docs.cloudron.io/updates/#update-schedule

@reactive said in Mixpost Lite Install Guide for LAMP App: Okay I managed to make it work, there was another typo in step 7, this is the correct script to make it work: #!/bin/bash # Place custom startup commands here sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/php /app/data/mixpostapp/artisan horizon & sudo -u www-data /usr/bin/php /app/data/mixpostapp/artisan queue:work --queue=high,standard,low --sleep=3 --tries=3 & fyi I'm just using it in the cron section: * * * * * cd .. && cd data/public/mixpost-enterprise-app && php artisan schedule:run >> /app/data/null 2>&1 @service cd .. && cd data/public/mixpost-enterprise-app && php artisan horizon

@BrutalBirdie Thanks for providing that information. Much appreciated!

I believe you mean the same thing that's discussed here as "archiving an app" (i.e download a backup and delete it), see https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/12256/archiving-apps And no, I don't think this is implemented yet.

Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for the answer!

This seems to be targeting the desktop flavor of Ubuntu 24.04. So this does not directly apply to Cloudron. For Cloudron, please follow https://docs.cloudron.io/guides/upgrade-ubuntu-24/