@micmc While I agree it's often annoying when all the above is used at the same time on a site you visit, it is also due to a lack of knowledge of what's an ideal UX, but it must also be said that they're used because THEY WORK. I never said It does not work, but its highly annoying to me @privsec no, I don’t build these sites. Sorry if this is the way it came across, did not mean it like that. It was more of a lash out against sites that do that. I did not want to insinuate that YOU are the culprit

@humptydumpty business is done with email, I can't see that changing for a long time. I think best to treat it as if it were an open database, like a forum, because at any time it can be. The bigger issue here is de-platforming risk from moving Ts & Cs goalposts, or not even knowing where the pitch lines will be for the whole game. Just doubles-down on my belief that it's a sensible investment to manage your own email server with Cloudron and your own IP reputation with a dedicated VPS. Over time I see the same deliverability confidence with my self-hosted email, it just takes a little time and organic usage to build the reputation than Google to Google seems to have, or maybe that's just an illusion.

@girish thank you! One more reason to love Cloudron Granular notifications would be nice though

@scooke said in My Cloudron experience: So, you aren't using Cloudron though for your tasks? Nope. Every solution I tried did not work for me. Apparently the CalDAV 'definition' for recurring tasks is not well defined, which leads to tasks not repeating properly when you mark them as 'complete' on a different app from where they were created. Solutions I tried: Vikunja - their Android app is alpha and is not very appealing so far. Tasks (Android app) + Vikunja - Cannot currently get reminders in the Tasks app if you create the task in Vikunja. Tasks + CalDAV + {insert Windows app here} - I tried this a few different ways: Thunderbird, EMClient, Outlook + CalDAV plugin, etc. Either the solution is overkill or it didn't work when I tried it. NextCloud Tasks - no recurring tasks Obsidian with Tasks plugin - still need to play with this more. I don't know if tasks created in Obsidian will trigger a reminder notification in the Obsidian Android app. And for the WebDAv for your Obsidian notes... how are you accessing a Cloudron WebDAV option? Is it through the NextCloud app? Yes, I was previously using Cloudron's surfer app. However, since I ended up using NextCloud as a Google drive replacement and NextCloud provides a WebDAV connection, I went with that. Both seem to work equally well.

The rabbit hole is when you have to delete from backups too. Some people I'm sure try to weaponise GDPR to cost you time and the most inconvenience. (Best not even say here if you think that's the case, they might even try to claim they are identified by implying.)

The instructions make it clear to install it on a clean VPS... so why add non-Cloudron stuff? The reason is not "control", as in Cloudron wants to control what you do with your VPS. That line of thinking is like saying, "Hey, this is MY laptop and I want to use it in the swimming pool to keep cool." The laptop manufacturer isn't going to stop you from doing what ever you want to do with your laptop, but if you want it to work, then follow the instructions! Plus, if someone goes ahead and starts adding this, or testing that, and something will break, then they are going to come here and, at best, ask for help and take up time from actual legit problems, or at worst just complain how Cloudron doesn't work. Clean VPS for installation. Keep it Clean for continued functioning.

@girish I guess you could still have Docker within an LXC container. So all that stuff would work the same, but you'd have a separate OS identity, so just one docker container per LXC containers. I'm just thinking how to enable creating apps for Simple Login, Firezone and similar, where you don't want to share ports or services with other Cloudron apps, but also they are small enough that a separate VPS, or running Proxmox, would be overkill, since resource needs would be minimal.

@jdaviescoates said in Auto-update your copyright year for static sites / surfer app owners: that everything should be free to share lemme see

@marcusquinn said in Which document collaboration software?: I think he's talking about a live editor platform tho. Yup, definetly.

@LoudLemur said in One Cloudron, Many Websites?: What if the cats wanted a discourse forum and then later so did the dogs? That's fine, other than Discourse it pretty RAM hungry. But yeah, I'm running multiple different discourse forums on different domains for different people.

@LoudLemur the only time I've ever had any issue with a Cloudron update the culprit was actually a bug in the linux kernel itself and not Cloudron's fault at all! It pretty much Just Works. That's why we all love it.

@LoudLemur I would not class Cloudron as developer tool.

@necrevistonnezr yeah, we get around 3 such posts every day. Some of them are hard to figure whether they are bots or not. Like this account has been there since 2021. I actually think it's real humans but they are spamming for unknown reasons (I don't get what or who gains from this).

@JOduMonT good idea. I think it would be nice if we had a "migrate domain" which "moves" everything - dashboard, MAIL FROM, mailboxes etc. All these are available individually but not as a single operation. Can you make a feature request?

@marcusquinn this would not make it so occasional, and provide for other automations to make it more frequent.

@nebulon oh it’s definitely not concerning to me at all. It’s just an area where I think it can be improved. To me 20% of a single core is very different than 20% of the system CPU. Seeing most of the apps at basically 0% except for the odd spike of above 20% of a single core on an 8-core system just seems like noise to me. I’d have thought it’d just be ideal if it was graphed as 20% of the system CPU instead of a single core CPU for which apps make the cut into the graph. Maybe I’m all alone on that view though

@timconsidine Looks like a rare example of genuine freemium value too. Most of the reason I'm here is because I loath per-user pricing for anything. This is much more value and merit-based... Bring your own art, or here's our business model for selling you some fully-integrated.

@girish Hey sorry.... just a quick update I found the MySQL table and was able to edit it as needed. Issue got cleared up after running a couple queries. Thanks for your help!

@girish it worked quite smoothly in the end but decided to upgrade my hosting and then have everything on one server again. Backup time and size are an issue though. Especially having to wait until one is done before editing/adding or removing apps. Having a fast local disk to backup to helps though