@LoudLemur link to post in ChatbotUI thread with details for custom Cloudron package : https://forum.cloudron.io/post/64753

@marcusquinn Yes, it would be grand to share at least one of these implementations on Cloudron to bridge the two.

@robw My experience was the opposite. I don't think you need any of the paid Espo stuff - although it is certainly good to support developers. SuiteCRM still looks like a legacy interface, and slow. If you haven't got into Espo Entity Manager, then you're missing out on some rapid capability. Only thing I can see SuiteCRM doing is showing that Espo is faster and easier. Rocket Chat I don't recommend any more, much prefer Nextcloud Talk. Open Project is good, but Espo can do everything that OP can. Phabricator is abandonware. Jitsi is great, but I think their public service is just fine for most. UCS is the only free Linux alternative to Active Directory I know of, so useful for that. Clunky though. Going back to Espo, I paid for all their add-ons but don't really need or use any of them. Get into Entity Manager and you can do everything already with that. DM me and I'll share a link to what we've done with it. I think you'll see why you couldn't get anywhere near the capability with SuiteCRM.

@marcusquinn Wow! Lets make it happen.

@Mawoka Cloudron is designed like a PaaS (like heroku). So, only the application container is needed. Rest of the things (database, cache etc) are maintained and provided by the platform.

@LoudLemur Honestly, you can do a hell of a lot with Wordpress, EspoCRM and Quickfile or Xero. Odoo is very good, and with that open-source Studio add-on now available, if I had more time I would revisit that, too. DM me here or on Twitter if any Qs on any of these.

@LoudLemur The more I see what people are doing with it, the more it looks like the birth of a new higher-level way of computing, that makes todays coding methods look insanely time-expensive. This is happening day by day, so certainly the time to raise a hand and say; "we're in, lets build on this"

@marcusquinn By encouraging people to use Free Software, like LibreOffice, for their document creation, they will benefit from being able to export their final draft as a PDF with an embeded .odf for easy data extraction. It can also archive according to ISO / archiving standards, where needed.

@marcusquinn We are very fortunate you are here! Thank you for this suggestion! I hope that our glorious Cloudron team can make it happen soon. It would be something if we could have AI packaging all the software on libselfhosted for us.

Added something related in feature request as well: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/64137

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@jdaviescoates good catch, think it is a bot.