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  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

    @girish i couldn’t care less about ldap, but is it possible to get a combined ui to view all apps and a shared notification tab? That’s it. Simply a way to eliminate the need to log in into multiple dashboard. Maybe an app would solve this?

    Edit: to expand on this a bit. No need to have any admin abilities to manage each app. App status (down, running, etc.) is sufficient along with a combined notification tab to keep track of what updated, server reboots, failed backups, etc. Apps are grouped and listed by server. For instance, you'll have:

    Server 1


    Server 2


    Server 3


    Etc.

    Again, I'm no dev, but it looks like a custom app using API's can do this. With that said, the upcoming backup destinations is 1000% more important than this feature.

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    @humptydumpty Custom app should be easy to build just using the API (which is now motsly documented by now) - https://docs.cloudron.io/api.html . I think the ldap itself is not interesting , but having a single set of users using all cloudron is quite nice for users (who probably don't know much about cloudron).

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    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

      @girish i couldn’t care less about ldap, but is it possible to get a combined ui to view all apps and a shared notification tab? That’s it. Simply a way to eliminate the need to log in into multiple dashboard. Maybe an app would solve this?

      Edit: to expand on this a bit. No need to have any admin abilities to manage each app. App status (down, running, etc.) is sufficient along with a combined notification tab to keep track of what updated, server reboots, failed backups, etc. Apps are grouped and listed by server. For instance, you'll have:

      Server 1


      Server 2


      Server 3


      Etc.

      Again, I'm no dev, but it looks like a custom app using API's can do this. With that said, the upcoming backup destinations is 1000% more important than this feature.

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      @humptydumpty Just tell Deepseek what you want with the Cloudron docs and see how it does.

      Conscious tech

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      • robiR robi

        @humptydumpty Just tell Deepseek what you want with the Cloudron docs and see how it does.

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        #15

        @robi I heard deepseek isn’t that good for coding but does analysis well. I’m not keeping up with the ai craze though so don’t quote me on that.

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          As long as you don't trust Deepseek too much https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-research-uncovers-exposed-deepseek-database-leak

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            I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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            • girishG girish

              I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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              #18

              @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!
              Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 22.41.43.png

              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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              • girishG girish

                I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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                @girish I'd like to suggest ssl cert renewal failure notifications if not implemented now that Let's Encrypt is stopping their email notification services.

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                  @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

                  On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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                  • girishG girish

                    @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

                    On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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                    @girish Yes please that one caused me some downtime before lol

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                    • scookeS scooke

                      @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!
                      Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 22.41.43.png

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                      @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                      @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

                      Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                      For ex:
                      My Apps: [62] 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

                      Conscious tech

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                      • robiR robi

                        @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                        @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

                        Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                        For ex:
                        My Apps: [62] 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

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                        @robi said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                        Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                        For ex:
                        My Apps: 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

                        Agreed. Great idea. At present there is no quick glance view letting you know status of apps but that would be really useful (instead of having to check each filter to find out)

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          @girish have you seen https://zero.rocicorp.dev/ or https://tinybase.org/ for keeping multicloudron synced across systems?

                          Conscious tech

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                          • girishG girish

                            I added the server reboot email notification, which was requested elsewhere.

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                            @girish could you please, also add e-mail configuration issue? That helps in the cases, when your server's IP ends up in Spam list, for some reason.

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                              @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                              Show backup/restore progress

                              Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                              Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                              As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                              • C charlesnw

                                @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                Show backup/restore progress

                                Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                                Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                                As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                                @charlesnw this feedback is very valuable!
                                I could bet girish will take it to heart 🙂

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                                  @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                  Show backup/restore progress

                                  Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                                  Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                                  As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                                  @charlesnw said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                  Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                                  We want to show a proper percent as well as time when uploading/downloading . The code does not know the size of the backups and thus cannot accurately guess how much time based on the upload/download speed. The end result will be "5 mins remaining..." like progress.

                                  As in per application?

                                  yes, that's the plan!

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                                    makemrproper
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                                    Multiple backup destinations will be awesome. I have so much disk space reserved for resilience!

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                                      Is there any estimated timeframe for the release of 9.0?

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                                        I once post in the forum that I hope in the next version there will be feature to customize reset password link (and text if possible) in case the cloudron instance user directory linked to another cloudron or other user directory providers. The latest version of Cloudron lack of this feature which I think is important to make it easy for regular user who dont remember the user directory url (which mostly dont remember)

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