What's coming in Cloudron 9

[girish]

@humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

[andreasdueren]

@girish Yes please that one caused me some downtime before lol

[robi]

@scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

@girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

For ex:
My Apps: [62] 44 10 7 1

[jdaviescoates]

@robi said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

For ex:
My Apps: 44 10 7 1

Agreed. Great idea. At present there is no quick glance view letting you know status of apps but that would be really useful (instead of having to check each filter to find out)

[robi]

@girish have you seen https://zero.rocicorp.dev/ or https://tinybase.org/ for keeping multicloudron synced across systems?

[potemkin_ai]

@girish could you please, also add e-mail configuration issue? That helps in the cases, when your server's IP ends up in Spam list, for some reason.

[charlesnw]

@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

Show backup/restore progress

Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

[BrutalBirdie]

@charlesnw this feedback is very valuable!
I could bet girish will take it to heart

[girish]

@charlesnw said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

We want to show a proper percent as well as time when uploading/downloading . The code does not know the size of the backups and thus cannot accurately guess how much time based on the upload/download speed. The end result will be "5 mins remaining..." like progress.

As in per application?

yes, that's the plan!

[makemrproper]

Multiple backup destinations will be awesome. I have so much disk space reserved for resilience!

[hakunamatata]

Is there any estimated timeframe for the release of 9.0?

[firmansi]

I once post in the forum that I hope in the next version there will be feature to customize reset password link (and text if possible) in case the cloudron instance user directory linked to another cloudron or other user directory providers. The latest version of Cloudron lack of this feature which I think is important to make it easy for regular user who dont remember the user directory url (which mostly dont remember)

[girish]

Since many IPv6/PTR issues have been reported, I revisited the code to double-check.

I found two biggish bugs:

• There was a typo in the IPv4/IPv6 caching code Because of this IPv6 will sometimes be returned as undefined
• On versions less than Ubuntu 24, unbound was configured to use IPv6 . Zen SpamHaus is not replying IPv6 queries for most of the public VPS providers . I made a fix to make unbound use IPv4 to query SpamHaus.

Finally, I also added IPv6 DNSBL checks . Also, double checked that SPF record "a:" includes AAAA .

I am hoping this helps the situation. If not, we can add a flag in 9.1 to make the mail server not use IPv6 at all.

[girish]

Also, still don't have an exact date for Cloudron 9 but the testing has been going on very well. I am hoping mid July we can publish the unstable.

[inane]

I don't see much in terms of new networking features - is there anything on the roadmap, for example multiple NIC support?

https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7839/more-than-1-network-nic-bind-container-to-networks
(would be a great way to separate local apps like home assistant or immich from externally reachable apps, using just the GUI)

Looking forward to the new backup capabilities, thanks! : D

[d19dotca]

@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

Since many IPv6/PTR issues have been reported, I revisited the code to double-check.

I found two biggish bugs:

• There was a typo in the IPv4/IPv6 caching code Because of this IPv6 will sometimes be returned as undefined
• On versions less than Ubuntu 24, unbound was configured to use IPv6 . Zen SpamHaus is not replying IPv6 queries for most of the public VPS providers . I made a fix to make unbound use IPv4 to query SpamHaus.

Finally, I also added IPv6 DNSBL checks . Also, double checked that SPF record "a:" includes AAAA .

I am hoping this helps the situation. If not, we can add a flag in 9.1 to make the mail server not use IPv6 at all.

With some much needed Mail improvements, I just wanted to raise this one to your radar in case this can make it in for 9.0 at all. I’m surprised this isn’t making bigger headaches for people, likely just a particular set of circumstances, but I think this is an important fix or improvement to include if we can.

https://forum.cloudron.io/post/109707

[humptydumpty]

@girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

Also, still don't have an exact date for Cloudron 9 but the testing has been going on very well. I am hoping mid July we can publish the unstable.

Hi Girish. How's it going?

[girish]

@humptydumpty Getting there... Last week we landed the support for multiple backup destinations with independent backup schedules. Backups also now link internally to the backup destination. This way, if you delete a backup destination, it's clear that Cloudron has lost track of backups that were made in that destination i.e those backup entries are removed and are not listed in the UI (unlike now where they linger but it's actually not possible to restore).

Currently, working on adding integrity checks and better progress. With that we are done.

[p44]

@girish

[girish]

An update on backup integrity: integrity information is now stored in .backupinfo files in the remote along side the backups . The file contains sha256 of the backup . For tgz, it's a single hash. For rsync, it contains individual hashes. Further, the backupinfo file is signed using a private key and the signature is stored in Cloudron database. Using this setup, we can verify the authenticity and integrity of backupinfo file (i.e it was created by the Cloudron backup system and was not altered) and we can also check the backups itself are not corrupt using the sha256.

While implementing this, I have also added fileCount and size to each of the backup entries. So, you can get an idea of how many files are in the backup and the total aggregated size of an individual backup.

Currently, working on the integrity verifier i.e you can click some button to say "Check integrity" and it will verify the integrity of the backup. This is a bit complicated because you have to download the backup to check the integrity...