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    @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

    On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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    • girishG girish

      @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

      On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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      @girish Yes please that one caused me some downtime before lol

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        @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!
        Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 22.41.43.png

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        @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

        @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

        Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

        For ex:
        My Apps: [62] 44 πŸ”΅ 10 πŸ”΄ 7 🍏 1 βšͺ

        Conscious tech

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        • robiR robi

          @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

          @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

          Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

          For ex:
          My Apps: [62] 44 πŸ”΅ 10 πŸ”΄ 7 🍏 1 βšͺ

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          @robi said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

          Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

          For ex:
          My Apps: 44 πŸ”΅ 10 πŸ”΄ 7 🍏 1 βšͺ

          Agreed. Great idea. At present there is no quick glance view letting you know status of apps but that would be really useful (instead of having to check each filter to find out)

          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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            @girish have you seen https://zero.rocicorp.dev/ or https://tinybase.org/ for keeping multicloudron synced across systems?

            Conscious tech

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            • girishG girish

              I added the server reboot email notification, which was requested elsewhere.

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              @girish could you please, also add e-mail configuration issue? That helps in the cases, when your server's IP ends up in Spam list, for some reason.

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                • Deprecate Ubuntu 20.04 support - we won't remove support yet, but you will get a notification that support is going away soon. I think Jul 2025 is when Ubuntu 20.04 reaches EOL.
                • UI Redesign - this is a biggie and requires much work. We already started migrating to vuejs 3 months ago. We will also take this opportunity to fix the navigation in our UI. Currently, the whole navigation is crammed under the profile menu.
                • App Level (Disk) Storage Limit - This will let you size the maximum disk storage an app can use. Currently, the plan is to add support for XFS Project Quota (supported on all the cloud block storage devices) and also a loopback device based backend. Maybe in future, we will add a LVM based backend as well.
                • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                • Show backup/restore progress
                • Multiple Backup Destinations
                • Granular Backup schedule
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                @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                Show backup/restore progress

                Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                  @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                  Show backup/restore progress

                  Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                  Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                  As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                  wrote on last edited by BrutalBirdie
                  #27

                  @charlesnw this feedback is very valuable!
                  I could bet girish will take it to heart πŸ™‚

                  Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                    @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                    Show backup/restore progress

                    Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                    Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                    As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                    @charlesnw said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                    Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                    We want to show a proper percent as well as time when uploading/downloading . The code does not know the size of the backups and thus cannot accurately guess how much time based on the upload/download speed. The end result will be "5 mins remaining..." like progress.

                    As in per application?

                    yes, that's the plan!

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                      Multiple backup destinations will be awesome. I have so much disk space reserved for resilience!

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                        Is there any estimated timeframe for the release of 9.0?

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                          I once post in the forum that I hope in the next version there will be feature to customize reset password link (and text if possible) in case the cloudron instance user directory linked to another cloudron or other user directory providers. The latest version of Cloudron lack of this feature which I think is important to make it easy for regular user who dont remember the user directory url (which mostly dont remember)

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                            Since many IPv6/PTR issues have been reported, I revisited the code to double-check.

                            I found two biggish bugs:

                            • There was a typo in the IPv4/IPv6 caching code πŸ˜• Because of this IPv6 will sometimes be returned as undefined
                            • On versions less than Ubuntu 24, unbound was configured to use IPv6 . Zen SpamHaus is not replying IPv6 queries for most of the public VPS providers . I made a fix to make unbound use IPv4 to query SpamHaus.

                            Finally, I also added IPv6 DNSBL checks . Also, double checked that SPF record "a:" includes AAAA .

                            I am hoping this helps the situation. If not, we can add a flag in 9.1 to make the mail server not use IPv6 at all.

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                              Also, still don't have an exact date for Cloudron 9 but the testing has been going on very well. I am hoping mid July we can publish the unstable.

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                                #34

                                I don't see much in terms of new networking features - is there anything on the roadmap, for example multiple NIC support?

                                https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/7839/more-than-1-network-nic-bind-container-to-networks
                                (would be a great way to separate local apps like home assistant or immich from externally reachable apps, using just the GUI)

                                Looking forward to the new backup capabilities, thanks! : D

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                                • girishG girish

                                  Since many IPv6/PTR issues have been reported, I revisited the code to double-check.

                                  I found two biggish bugs:

                                  • There was a typo in the IPv4/IPv6 caching code πŸ˜• Because of this IPv6 will sometimes be returned as undefined
                                  • On versions less than Ubuntu 24, unbound was configured to use IPv6 . Zen SpamHaus is not replying IPv6 queries for most of the public VPS providers . I made a fix to make unbound use IPv4 to query SpamHaus.

                                  Finally, I also added IPv6 DNSBL checks . Also, double checked that SPF record "a:" includes AAAA .

                                  I am hoping this helps the situation. If not, we can add a flag in 9.1 to make the mail server not use IPv6 at all.

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                                  @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                  Since many IPv6/PTR issues have been reported, I revisited the code to double-check.

                                  I found two biggish bugs:

                                  • There was a typo in the IPv4/IPv6 caching code πŸ˜• Because of this IPv6 will sometimes be returned as undefined
                                  • On versions less than Ubuntu 24, unbound was configured to use IPv6 . Zen SpamHaus is not replying IPv6 queries for most of the public VPS providers . I made a fix to make unbound use IPv4 to query SpamHaus.

                                  Finally, I also added IPv6 DNSBL checks . Also, double checked that SPF record "a:" includes AAAA .

                                  I am hoping this helps the situation. If not, we can add a flag in 9.1 to make the mail server not use IPv6 at all.

                                  With some much needed Mail improvements, I just wanted to raise this one to your radar in case this can make it in for 9.0 at all. I’m surprised this isn’t making bigger headaches for people, likely just a particular set of circumstances, but I think this is an important fix or improvement to include if we can.

                                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/109707

                                  --
                                  Dustin Dauncey
                                  www.d19.ca

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