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    Open Source Self-Hosted SeaTable Alternatives
    https://alternativeto.net/software/seatable/?license=opensource&platform=self-hosted

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    • yusfY yusf

      These are the types of tool I need! Sounds like an Airtable alternative. By a Seafile developer nonetheless.

      It's sad it's not fully open source but it's still self-hostable, no?

      Also, how would I be able to "collaborate with your customers" if there's no collaborative features? 🤔

      SeaTabe community edition should not be used to provide SaaS service or as a part of your SaaS service. Other kinds of usage are okay, including

      • Use it internally in your company.
      • Personal or home use.
      • Use it to collaborate with your customers.
      • Use it for IT projects for your customers, as long as you use a separate server for each of your customers.
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      jdaviescoates
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      @yusf said in SeaTable - Speadsheet meets database:

      It's sad it's not fully open source but it's still self-hostable, no?

      I believe so, yes.

      @yusf said in SeaTable - Speadsheet meets database:

      Also, how would I be able to "collaborate with your customers" if there's no collaborative features?

      I think you can have those features, they are just proprietary.

      So I guess it would still be nice to have this on Cloudron.

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        This is something I've personally been looking for forever! So, great find. Given the proprietary bits, we likely CAN package it as CE and then one would need to just 'upgrade' it per their terms. CR does this with another package (Confluence maybe?) already.

        The compose file looks like we could take it apart for CR based use decently, but we'd really need the original Dockerfile files to really do it. Those don't appear to be published anywhere accessible. If you find them, I'd be happy to take a closer look at packaging it for you.

        The alternative looks VERY promising, but they are brand new (baserow) and haven't published a repo yet.

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        • doodlemania2D doodlemania2

          This is something I've personally been looking for forever! So, great find. Given the proprietary bits, we likely CAN package it as CE and then one would need to just 'upgrade' it per their terms. CR does this with another package (Confluence maybe?) already.

          The compose file looks like we could take it apart for CR based use decently, but we'd really need the original Dockerfile files to really do it. Those don't appear to be published anywhere accessible. If you find them, I'd be happy to take a closer look at packaging it for you.

          The alternative looks VERY promising, but they are brand new (baserow) and haven't published a repo yet.

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          @doodlemania2

          I was about to make a new post on this but i suppose a response here is okay for now: https://baserow.io/blog/open-source-release-of-baserow

          They have a road map through Nov on their site too: https://baserow.io/

          looks like a +1

          ✌💙+1

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            @doodlemania2

            I was about to make a new post on this but i suppose a response here is okay for now: https://baserow.io/blog/open-source-release-of-baserow

            They have a road map through Nov on their site too: https://baserow.io/

            looks like a +1

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            @plusone-nick Nice! Looks like a different app though, so would need it's own post for it's own votes.

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              @plusone-nick Nice! Looks like a different app though, so would need it's own post for it's own votes.

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              @marcusquinn Made a dedicated thread

              ✌💙+1

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                I've just found this thread and the Baserow thread.

                I've spent about 10 minutes with both and seatable was much easier to get started with.

                I'd considered using airtable recently on a project but we had to stop as it didn't meet privacy requirements. Crazy shenanigans like not being able to guarantee the privacy of the data generated. 😩

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                • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                  I've just found this thread and the Baserow thread.

                  I've spent about 10 minutes with both and seatable was much easier to get started with.

                  I'd considered using airtable recently on a project but we had to stop as it didn't meet privacy requirements. Crazy shenanigans like not being able to guarantee the privacy of the data generated. 😩

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                  @ei8fdb Would you please further elaborate or provide some docs if available? I am in a similar situation regarding airtable

                  ✌💙+1

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                    @ei8fdb Would you please further elaborate or provide some docs if available? I am in a similar situation regarding airtable

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                    Hi @plusone-nick hmm, I'm afraid I'm not able to give too much detail - not that I wouldn't like to - the details of the discussion were handled by a lawyer and she was not impressed by Airtable's use of cookies, and their handling of user's data.

                    In our case we were creating a campaign website with thousands of email addresses and names. They weren't able to guarantee it - which was all explained (helpfully!) in their privacy policy.

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                      Hi @plusone-nick hmm, I'm afraid I'm not able to give too much detail - not that I wouldn't like to - the details of the discussion were handled by a lawyer and she was not impressed by Airtable's use of cookies, and their handling of user's data.

                      In our case we were creating a campaign website with thousands of email addresses and names. They weren't able to guarantee it - which was all explained (helpfully!) in their privacy policy.

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                      @ei8fdb No worries that's understandable, thanks for what insight you could provide - I will have to take a deeper look into this but thanks again 🙏

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                        Seems to be standard MySQL data-store or am I missing something?

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                          Seems so. Though there's a mention of Postgres here.

                          I would really like having this app… 🤩

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                            Maybe a good integration with Metabase for the sharing aspect. Just point Metabase at the SeaTable DB

                            Conscious tech

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                              This is something I've personally been looking for forever! So, great find. Given the proprietary bits, we likely CAN package it as CE and then one would need to just 'upgrade' it per their terms. CR does this with another package (Confluence maybe?) already.

                              The compose file looks like we could take it apart for CR based use decently, but we'd really need the original Dockerfile files to really do it. Those don't appear to be published anywhere accessible. If you find them, I'd be happy to take a closer look at packaging it for you.

                              The alternative looks VERY promising, but they are brand new (baserow) and haven't published a repo yet.

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                              @doodlemania2 said in SeaTable - Speadsheet meets database:

                              we'd really need the original Dockerfile files

                              Is this anything to go off?

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                                @doodlemania2 said in SeaTable - Speadsheet meets database:

                                we'd really need the original Dockerfile files

                                Is this anything to go off?

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                                @yusf I wish it was - too many unknowns from that list as to which files are which, etc. I've asked them again if they are interested in being packaged. Will revert if they reply!

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                                • P Philipp Braun

                                  With SeaTable, teams can easily organize their tasks, assets, projects and ideas. It looks like Excel, but its not limited by text and numbers. SeaTable brings structure to any type of information, in the cloud or on your own server.

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                                  @philipp-braun generous limit for their free plan in their cloud !

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                                    @philipp-braun generous limit for their free plan in their cloud !

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                                    @timconsidine I think @Philipp-Braun is part of SeaTable team.

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                                    • P Philipp Braun

                                      With SeaTable, teams can easily organize their tasks, assets, projects and ideas. It looks like Excel, but its not limited by text and numbers. SeaTable brings structure to any type of information, in the cloud or on your own server.

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                                      @philipp-braun checked out the cloud version : very nice !

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                                        @philipp-braun generous limit for their free plan in their cloud !

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                                        @timconsidine Hey Tim. It is important to us that users can already intensively get to know SeaTable in the free version.

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                                          I notice that SeaTable is now available in the Linode Marketplace.
                                          https://www.linode.com/marketplace/apps/seatable/seatable/

                                          Guides - Deploy SeaTable through the Linode Marketplace
                                          Published Monday, June 26, 2023, by Linode
                                          https://www.linode.com/docs/products/tools/marketplace/guides/seatable/

                                          I discovered SeaTable 3+ years ago and used their hosted version extensively for some things. It did the job. For a few years I paid for the Plus version (7€) to get the advanced sharing permissions.

                                          I never felt like I was in control of my data and wanted to have this on domain I own, so later discovered NocoDB and Baserow and saw those come onto Cloudron. Now I seem to have things spread out over all 3, but would like to focus on one; Ideally one that I can figure out how to embed in other documents.

                                          I won't be going the Linode route. Cloudron does so much more...
                                          Not sure if this means anything for Cloudron. Has @Philipp-Braun stopped by recently?

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