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    #17

    I start programming with a Commodore64 than manage network and system (BSD, Mac, Linux, Windows, Cisco, Juniper, ...) than went back to school and became certified Cloud+, Linux SysAdmin and Ethical Hacker and now I would like to pass to a next level (Teaching, Coaching, Empowering, ...) with OpenSource and CommonSense.

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    • nebulonN Offline
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      Hi all. Next to @girish I am the other founder of Cloudron. Before that I was working at Nokia where I basically got into webtech as a developer. I used to be a C++/Qt developer after coming even from Gtk/XFCE back in the days.

      I host my own things since some time around 2000, but prior to working on Cloudron never really got deeper into sysadmin topics, which also meant I couldn't really host everything I wanted and needed. That was a big driver for me to work on Cloudron, just to be able to run more things besides the LAMP stack scripts basically.

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      • rmdesR Offline
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        I have no idea what I am but I have been hosting different CMS's over the last 2 decades (for friends and clients) which lead me to gradually move from shared hosting to self-hosting.

        I learned a lot in the process and sometimes around 2016 launched a very little digital/tech consulting project with @ruihildt and it's in this context that we went full Cloudron not just to host clients needs but also some friends and personal needs/wants, it has been an even more interesting ride ever since !

        Since Covid-19 I'm at a crossroad, there has never been so much need for coaching, teaching and pivoting people into digital solutions and entrepreneurship, I'm divided between this or learning to code towards working as backend devop, so I'm using this second lockdown to figure out my next steps 🙂

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        • rmdesR rmdes

          I have no idea what I am but I have been hosting different CMS's over the last 2 decades (for friends and clients) which lead me to gradually move from shared hosting to self-hosting.

          I learned a lot in the process and sometimes around 2016 launched a very little digital/tech consulting project with @ruihildt and it's in this context that we went full Cloudron not just to host clients needs but also some friends and personal needs/wants, it has been an even more interesting ride ever since !

          Since Covid-19 I'm at a crossroad, there has never been so much need for coaching, teaching and pivoting people into digital solutions and entrepreneurship, I'm divided between this or learning to code towards working as backend devop, so I'm using this second lockdown to figure out my next steps 🙂

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          ei8fdb
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          @rmdes Good luck with the decision on which road to take. 🙂

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          • marcusquinnM Offline
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            #21

            I run an ecommerce company I started with someone 18 years ago, by accident really as I was quite happy freelancing.

            I still haven't tamed the technology stack beast but Cloudron has been a huge inspiration and saviour there.

            Also developed high-frequency trading algos in MetaTrader but shelved that project for a few years to focus on the ecommerce.

            Also love making music, if ever there's time, with Ableton and anything that makes a noise.

            Also lost all trust with SaaS. Having pushed our whole company from on-premise to GSuite & Freshdesk, I'm now trying to take it all back with Cloudron.

            Same for AWS & Azure, all in when it was shiny and new, and pulling back out now it's become a data ransom racket.

            Always been a fan of open source, open file-formats and contributing however possible.

            Fuck the cloud, everyone should own their own data, and if that means learning how to setup a domain name and Cloudron, sobeit. ✊

            Now inspired to do everything we can as a business, and I can with any network influence, to be an example for how to have at least equivalence, if not better with FOSS.

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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            • necrevistonnezrN necrevistonnezr

              I‘m a lawyer working in the field of i.a. data privacy law who is just very interested in tech and likes to run things at home. Also, the rules of our profession require us to not give data of our clients to any third party which rules the use out most US based web services.

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              necrevistonnezr
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              #22

              @necrevistonnezr said in What do you do?:

              I‘m a lawyer working in the field of i.a. data privacy law who is just very interested in tech and likes to run things at home. Also, the rules of our profession require us to not give data of our clients to any third party which rules the use out most US based web services.

              BTW I also founded in 2001 (!) and these days occasionally administrate/moderate the Essential Freebies Board or short EFB.nu, the/one of the biggest German speaking forums for freeware & open source software (mostly Windows).

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              • humptydumptyH Offline
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                #23

                I started training in my teen years to be a bench jeweler and over a decade later in the jewelry manufacturing scene and after the advance of tech, I found myself becoming a 3D modeler. I've given up on my hammer and torch a while back. CAD and 3D printing are mostly what I do all day long now. I'm in the process of expanding into other fields as I'm using my knowledge in CAD/CAM to create all sorts of things. It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long 😧

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                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                  I started training in my teen years to be a bench jeweler and over a decade later in the jewelry manufacturing scene and after the advance of tech, I found myself becoming a 3D modeler. I've given up on my hammer and torch a while back. CAD and 3D printing are mostly what I do all day long now. I'm in the process of expanding into other fields as I'm using my knowledge in CAD/CAM to create all sorts of things. It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long 😧

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                  marcusquinn
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                  #24

                  @humptydumpty very interesting and quite a coincidence, I have a friend that's determined to get into this exact thing. I'll ask him the best way to connect with you if you don't mind?

                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                    I started training in my teen years to be a bench jeweler and over a decade later in the jewelry manufacturing scene and after the advance of tech, I found myself becoming a 3D modeler. I've given up on my hammer and torch a while back. CAD and 3D printing are mostly what I do all day long now. I'm in the process of expanding into other fields as I'm using my knowledge in CAD/CAM to create all sorts of things. It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long 😧

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                    mehdi
                    App Dev
                    wrote on last edited by
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                    @humptydumpty Interesting. What sorts of things are you working on, mostly?

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                    • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                      I started training in my teen years to be a bench jeweler and over a decade later in the jewelry manufacturing scene and after the advance of tech, I found myself becoming a 3D modeler. I've given up on my hammer and torch a while back. CAD and 3D printing are mostly what I do all day long now. I'm in the process of expanding into other fields as I'm using my knowledge in CAD/CAM to create all sorts of things. It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long 😧

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                      ei8fdb
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      @humptydumpty said in What do you do?:

                      It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long

                      Don't worry thats common - I started life as an electronics technician, then became a systems administrator, then a networks engineer, and now a UX Designer - most of my family and friends still introduce me as "working in computers".

                      And my family have always assumed I do coding even though I cannot code to save my life.

                      You've got an interesting background. Welcome!

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                      • ei8fdbE ei8fdb

                        @humptydumpty said in What do you do?:

                        It turns out if you know CAD/CAM + Rendering + general knowledge in coding/tech, there's nothing you can't create and sell online. At this stage, I'm not sure what my job title is. A modeler, a creator, or a retailer? This question always makes me pause and I end up telling people, "I do computer stuff" and they assume I'm coding all day long

                        Don't worry thats common - I started life as an electronics technician, then became a systems administrator, then a networks engineer, and now a UX Designer - most of my family and friends still introduce me as "working in computers".

                        And my family have always assumed I do coding even though I cannot code to save my life.

                        You've got an interesting background. Welcome!

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                        marcusquinn
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                        @ei8fdb said in What do you do?:

                        most of my family and friends still introduce me as "working in computers".
                        And my family have always assumed I do coding even though I cannot code to save my life.

                        Same here. TBH I have no idea what people do that don't work with computers 😂

                        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                        Development https://brandlight.org
                        Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                          @humptydumpty very interesting and quite a coincidence, I have a friend that's determined to get into this exact thing. I'll ask him the best way to connect with you if you don't mind?

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                          humptydumpty
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                          @marcusquinn I don't mind. He's interested in jewelry manufacturing, CAD/CAM, or both? DM me their email address when ready.

                          @mehdi Other than custom jewelry design jobs that I do for jewelry retailers, I work on creating accessories for all kinds of products. I aim for the hobbies (RC toys, gamers, etc.) because they spend without thinking logically lol.

                          @ei8fdb Thanks. Most people that ask me what I do, don't even know what 3D modeling means. I get that blank face and then I just say "computer stuff" and they're like OHHHHHH.

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                          • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                            @marcusquinn I don't mind. He's interested in jewelry manufacturing, CAD/CAM, or both? DM me their email address when ready.

                            @mehdi Other than custom jewelry design jobs that I do for jewelry retailers, I work on creating accessories for all kinds of products. I aim for the hobbies (RC toys, gamers, etc.) because they spend without thinking logically lol.

                            @ei8fdb Thanks. Most people that ask me what I do, don't even know what 3D modeling means. I get that blank face and then I just say "computer stuff" and they're like OHHHHHH.

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                            marcusquinn
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                            @humptydumpty said in What do you do?:

                            I don't mind. He's interested in jewelry manufacturing, CAD/CAM, or both? DM me their email address when ready.

                            He does a lot of metal-detecting, so looking at reproduction for very old stuff, Roman & Celtic. I'll pass it on.

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                              #30

                              Guess I can contribute to this too. I'm a computer engineer graduate who ended up liking software development more, but still tinkers with hardware projects. I also work at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, Canada as a software developer for the eLearning team doing updates for our Moodle instance and building out our suite of applications that integrate with Moodle via LTI. I also love working on FOSS apps and started on EleutheriaPay which I hope to get on Cloudron once its stable: https://eleutheriapay.atrilahiji.dev/

                              Specialties dev-wise:

                              • Vue.js frontend
                              • AWS/GCP Serverless Development
                              • Node.js API development
                              • Embedded systems development
                              • FPGA development using Verilog (A hardware description language)

                              🙂

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                                Hey community, I'll give it a shot: I'm a 34 years old sysadmin from Leipzig/Germany. Doing devops, IT support and a lot of hardware tinkering but will be unemployed in 2 weeks ^^ I'm also co-running a large (night)club and participate in some projects around events, arts and the culture scene here.

                                I my scene there is neither money nor space for business consulting and business solutions but there's a high demand for own, free and flexible IT infrastructure. I have been using Cloudron for about 3 years and helped some projects and freelancers to host their own.

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                                • subvenS subven

                                  Hey community, I'll give it a shot: I'm a 34 years old sysadmin from Leipzig/Germany. Doing devops, IT support and a lot of hardware tinkering but will be unemployed in 2 weeks ^^ I'm also co-running a large (night)club and participate in some projects around events, arts and the culture scene here.

                                  I my scene there is neither money nor space for business consulting and business solutions but there's a high demand for own, free and flexible IT infrastructure. I have been using Cloudron for about 3 years and helped some projects and freelancers to host their own.

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                                  @subven very nice, I will definitely visit mjut once corona again allows for it. Been couple of times in so&so till it closed 😕

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    @subven very nice, I will definitely visit mjut once corona again allows for it. Been couple of times in so&so till it closed 😕

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                                    marcusquinn
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                                    @nebulon Apparently, we all just need to use mouthwash now and it'll all be fine again 🙂

                                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                    Development https://brandlight.org
                                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                      👋

                                      Rob here (robi is my Croatian nickname and often computer username) for those in other cultures, short for Robert.

                                      As a Strategic Advisor and (Business & Innovation) Catalyst, I'm mostly a full stack janitor 😉

                                      As a leader in several startups, I reserve a keen eye for emerging technologies (hi Cloudron and it's Apps); I have been a speaker, mentor, advisor for Google, NASA, IBM, and many more, finding safe, creative solutions all the way from the mundane to the complex with equal ease, which is one thing that keeps my passion ignited.

                                      Remember WinAmp? Yeah, I was there during the mp3 revolution, in the credits until the recent reshuffle.

                                      I've invented a bunch of stuff, including the first PCIe flash storage device in small form factor (SFF), now you'll recognize it as the M.2 PCIe SSD device for which there is now a slot on every motherboard being made. (didn't make a dime.)

                                      Made core discoveries (read blunders) in physics (magnetism, light, water), mathematics, statistics, AI, ML, medicine, law, etc, which you can ask me about outside this thread.

                                      3 decades ago I got bitten by the sysadmin bug and never left, despite all the C level gigs.

                                      After 15 years, I am still on the board of directors for https://BayLISA.org which is one of the oldest meetups in Silicon Valley. We've had the Cloudron team speak at one of our meetups which should be online on YT.

                                      I play a long running pickup soccer game every Saturday (same folks come out for 8+ years) and tennis 1-2 times a week if possible. Love ping pong and ultimate frisbee too.

                                      If you want to see a small part of my other crazy projects, see https://venture.toldyouso.com

                                      Otherwise a few here have found me on Twitter.

                                      There's more, but that's plenty for now 😄

                                      Conscious tech

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                                      • scookeS scooke

                                        @jdaviescoates I figured so. But I wonder why @ruihildt bothered to point out what he did. The few lines I found on the website aren't actually advertising Cloudron as %100 open source, but rather that the code they use is open source. I'd be more bothered by their approach, like Framasoft, where if the user has no idea about the existence of Cloudron, in this case, the company's description of what they do (https://osinum.fr/) makes it sound like it is and has been all their own doing. Much of what they promise to do is based on whether Cloudron, or all the other myriad open source projects in use, has or will implement it, but they don't clearly specify that. If I found them, and started using them, and THEN discovered they actually use Cloudron, I'd be a little miffed, and would just switch over to Cloudron.
                                        Anyway, I have no clue what "being sponsored by Medias-Cite" means, but if the Cloudron team are fine with it, and this "sponsoring" helps move Cloudron forward, great.

                                        (A bit more reading shows that they, osinum.fr, are charging a minimum 150 EURO/month!!! I guess they are paying Cloudron for the Premium Plus plan. They offer, for almost triple the price of Cloudron's pricing,
                                        1 domain name (.fr, .com, .org, .net)
                                        Accommodation in France
                                        Shared server
                                        100 GB
                                        5 applications
                                        50 users
                                        Management of user groups
                                        Daily backups
                                        Surveillance / Monitoring / Security
                                        Email support

                                        Maybe I should get into offering cloudron!!

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                                        @scooke Hi i'm Benoit the Medias-Cite and Osinum manager. We sell a service with Cloudron in its core. our customers are ok with that and they know it's Cloudron behind but they don't care about it because they don't want to have to deal with the server side (and they want a server in France). It's the same thing when developing services based on Wordpress, the client wants a site that works under Wordpress but does not want to have to do it himself because he does not necessarily have the time or the inclination to do it himself.
                                        We support our customers with others services addons to our offers (Example : we deploy BBB for us outside Cloudron), we are thinking about making some webinars to help them to use Nextcloud, wordpress etc... We try to sponsor some new developpments in Cloudron (internationalization), and new packaging of apps (Dolibarr for the moment, with @eric a Dolibarr team developer).
                                        @girish and @nebulon know our activities, nothing is hidden. The only line we change on our website is "le logiciel libre Cloudron" because this is no longer totally true.

                                        Conclusion, we don't sell Cloudron but services based on it. Cloudron is a master piece in our service but without humans behind it our service is dead. And by the way, Medias-Cite is a non profit organization (cooperative) and it will remain so.

                                        I hope you understand what we do 🙂

                                        Sorry for my english 😉

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                                        • BenoitB Benoit

                                          @scooke Hi i'm Benoit the Medias-Cite and Osinum manager. We sell a service with Cloudron in its core. our customers are ok with that and they know it's Cloudron behind but they don't care about it because they don't want to have to deal with the server side (and they want a server in France). It's the same thing when developing services based on Wordpress, the client wants a site that works under Wordpress but does not want to have to do it himself because he does not necessarily have the time or the inclination to do it himself.
                                          We support our customers with others services addons to our offers (Example : we deploy BBB for us outside Cloudron), we are thinking about making some webinars to help them to use Nextcloud, wordpress etc... We try to sponsor some new developpments in Cloudron (internationalization), and new packaging of apps (Dolibarr for the moment, with @eric a Dolibarr team developer).
                                          @girish and @nebulon know our activities, nothing is hidden. The only line we change on our website is "le logiciel libre Cloudron" because this is no longer totally true.

                                          Conclusion, we don't sell Cloudron but services based on it. Cloudron is a master piece in our service but without humans behind it our service is dead. And by the way, Medias-Cite is a non profit organization (cooperative) and it will remain so.

                                          I hope you understand what we do 🙂

                                          Sorry for my english 😉

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                                          @benoit A far better job than if I tried to write anything in French! I have a particular interest in this sort of MSP model to help improve the access to the platform - many small businesses or groups could see big benefits from Cloudron but cannot afford the dedicated IT pros to operate/support it, so I think such options are a great part of the ecosystem. I have an interest in doing something similar for local clients as well in the future, or at least to standardize my deployment of some custom applications.

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