What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4)

[girish]

POP3 support is enabled on the server but it's disabled for all mailboxes by default. It has to enabled per mailbox.

[girish]

So, the status of the release is that mailbox forwarding is being worked on. Once that is done, we will cut a release.

[d19dotca]

Getting excited for 6.4 (especially since it fixes a bug that's currently keeping me locked in-place with my current hosting provider), and all the amazing improvements particularly around email!

Was just wondering if there was an ETA for us. I know I asked about 11 days ago, just really looking forward to it. haha.

Also a slightly selfish reason for asking... it'll save me from having to pay another month of hosting from my current host if I can migrate off before end of this month if that other defect is fixed which is supposed to be fixed with 6.4, not a ton of time left for me to plan it out since it has to be in the middle of the night (i.e. weekends only, 3 weekends left and I'm guessing this weekend will be too soon, so really only 2 weekends left for me to do this migration so I'm getting a bit antsy).

[girish]

@d19dotca we plan to release next week, for sure.

[girish]

Possibly final update: the manual tests went fine. We are just getting the e2e tests to pass and then we are good.

[d19dotca]

@girish will this be out later today by any chance?

[nebulon]

@d19dotca it is still in our end to end tests....

[girish]

@d19dotca I will contact you from support, I think we can fix up your instance so you are not blocked by this.

Main issue is DO DNS is really letting us down this week. It keeps failing sporadically causing our tests to fail.

[girish]

As a heads up, this release will get published as Cloudron 7.0 and not 6.4 . It's because we stop supporting Ubuntu 16 from this major version and also the format of backups have changed.

[robi]

@girish

[adeelahmad]

@girish Take it easy no pressue or rush. We understnad things take time. Love all of your work. Keep up the Good Work please!

[LoudLemur]

@girish

It is a pity you can't hear the loud cheers and applause when you give us news like this.

[d19dotca]

Great job guys! Super long changelog, happy to see many of the changes included there! I'm going to upgrade likely tomorrow night.

PS - Girish, the migration went well from you manually adding in the self-signed certs the other day. I really appreciate the awesome support and help with that! You guys rock!

[murgero]

Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

[timconsidine]

@murgero : i think the dinosaurs were bellowing loudly

[jdaviescoates]

@murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

For some reason it is still required for various things. e.g. Discourse reply-by-email features (as mad as that sounds), and I think perhaps sucking messages into Gmail too (which can help people to get started using Cloudron mail stuff before they are ready to fully transition away from where they've currently got everything)

[girish]

@murgero mostly for compatibility with apps and some services that we cannot control. Admittedly, I didn't want to enable it but it was trivial to enable it in dovecot.

It's also disabled by default for all mailboxes. We also only support POP3S (no plain POP3).

[necrevistonnezr]

@murgero said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

Why are we allowing POP3? It's an old, outdated, and insecure mail protocol.

TBH all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols. Email cannot be fixed or made secure (think encryption or shit like HTML emails)

[fbartels]

@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

[necrevistonnezr]

@fbartels said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

@necrevistonnezr said in What's coming in 7.0 (was 6.4):

all mail protocols are outdated and insecure if compared so secure messenger protocols

^this email was not designed as a secret medium. Unlike protocols such as matrix.

Exactly.