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Uhhhh, there's a new Forum theme!

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  • scookeS Offline
    scookeS Offline
    scooke
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I didn't see any notice about this. I'm not going crazy, right? How did it change so radically? All I did was refresh my browser tab and TADA! A totally new look!

    BEFORE
    Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.33.50 PM.png

    AFTER (NOW, CURRENT)
    Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.34.03 PM.png

    A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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    • nebulonN Offline
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      nebulon
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Yes, this was in the same step as updating the NodeBB app package to version 3.

      Announcement was a bit late for this https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/9157/nodebb-version-3-and-harmony-theme

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      • scookeS scooke

        I didn't see any notice about this. I'm not going crazy, right? How did it change so radically? All I did was refresh my browser tab and TADA! A totally new look!

        BEFORE
        Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.33.50 PM.png

        AFTER (NOW, CURRENT)
        Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.34.03 PM.png

        L Offline
        L Offline
        LoudLemur
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @scooke said in Uhhhh, there's a new Forum theme!:

        I didn't see any notice about this. I'm not going crazy, right? How did it change so radically? All I did was refresh my browser tab and TADA! A totally new look!

        BEFORE
        Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.33.50 PM.png

        AFTER (NOW, CURRENT)
        Screen Shot 2023-05-03 at 5.34.03 PM.png

        Thanks, I wasn't confident enough to mention this.

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        • girishG Offline
          girishG Offline
          girish
          Staff
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @scooke NodeBB got updated to 3.0 and this is the default theme. We do have an option of keeping the old theme, but hey let's see how well this works. I have a few complaints but let's see if we all get used to this in after a week.

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          • nichu42N Offline
            nichu42N Offline
            nichu42
            wrote on last edited by nichu42
            #5

            I find it totally confusing. I have to look on the left for new messages and on the opposite side for notifications. Plus tiny symbols on the sidebars and a huge font in the middle.

            I will certainly adapt to it, but if you are counting votes for returning the classic theme, here is my +1.

            Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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            • humptydumptyH Offline
              humptydumptyH Offline
              humptydumpty
              wrote on last edited by humptydumpty
              #6

              I feel this new theme is cleaner and snappier, but I agree with @nichu42 that the sidebars on both sides are weird. Is it possible to adjust the menu placement?

              If not, then +1 for the new theme. I'll get used to it.

              Edit: I just noticed that the upvotes aren't visible until you hover on the post, so it's not as friendly for the app request posts.

              @girish @nebulon Perhaps creating a poll for this would be best. A quick search came up with this plugin: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nodebb-plugin-poll

              I asked ChatGPT to create a script for this function, and it spit this out. I'm not sure if it works or not.

              'use strict';
              
              var Topics = require.main.require('./src/topics'),
                  Polls = require.main.require('./src/polls'),
                  privileges = require.main.require('./src/privileges'),
                  user = require.main.require('./src/user');
              
              var Poll = {};
              
              Poll.addPoll = async function(data) {
                  var topicData = await Topics.getTopicData(data.tid);
                  var userData = await user.getUserFields(data.uid, ['username', 'email']);
              
                  if (!topicData) {
                      throw new Error('invalid-topic');
                  }
              
                  if (topicData.locked) {
                      throw new Error('locked-topic');
                  }
              
                  var canPost = await privileges.posts.can('create', data.cid, data.uid);
                  if (!canPost) {
                      throw new Error('[[error:no-privileges]]');
                  }
              
                  if (!data.title) {
                      throw new Error('[[error:title-too-short]]');
                  }
              
                  var pollData = {
                      title: data.title,
                      options: data.options,
                      maxVotes: data.maxVotes,
                      endDate: data.endDate,
                      isClosed: false
                  };
              
                  var poll = await Polls.addPoll(data.tid, pollData, userData);
              
                  await Topics.tools.addPost(data.tid, data.uid, data.content, {
                      poll_id: poll.pid,
                      isMain: false
                  });
              
                  return poll;
              };
              
              module.exports = Poll;
              
              

              This script uses the Topics, Polls, privileges, and user NodeBB modules to add a poll to a forum post. You can call the Poll.addPoll function with an object containing the following data:

              tid: the ID of the topic to add the poll to
              uid: the ID of the user adding the poll
              title: the title of the poll
              options: an array of strings representing the poll options
              maxVotes: the maximum number of votes a user can cast
              endDate: the date the poll ends, as a Unix timestamp in milliseconds
              content: the content of the forum post
              

              The function returns a Promise that resolves to the poll object.

              You can call this function in your NodeBB plugin or theme file to create polls in forum posts. Make sure you have the necessary privileges to create posts in the relevant category before calling this function.

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                I feel this new theme is cleaner and snappier, but I agree with @nichu42 that the sidebars on both sides are weird. Is it possible to adjust the menu placement?

                If not, then +1 for the new theme. I'll get used to it.

                Edit: I just noticed that the upvotes aren't visible until you hover on the post, so it's not as friendly for the app request posts.

                @girish @nebulon Perhaps creating a poll for this would be best. A quick search came up with this plugin: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nodebb-plugin-poll

                I asked ChatGPT to create a script for this function, and it spit this out. I'm not sure if it works or not.

                'use strict';
                
                var Topics = require.main.require('./src/topics'),
                    Polls = require.main.require('./src/polls'),
                    privileges = require.main.require('./src/privileges'),
                    user = require.main.require('./src/user');
                
                var Poll = {};
                
                Poll.addPoll = async function(data) {
                    var topicData = await Topics.getTopicData(data.tid);
                    var userData = await user.getUserFields(data.uid, ['username', 'email']);
                
                    if (!topicData) {
                        throw new Error('invalid-topic');
                    }
                
                    if (topicData.locked) {
                        throw new Error('locked-topic');
                    }
                
                    var canPost = await privileges.posts.can('create', data.cid, data.uid);
                    if (!canPost) {
                        throw new Error('[[error:no-privileges]]');
                    }
                
                    if (!data.title) {
                        throw new Error('[[error:title-too-short]]');
                    }
                
                    var pollData = {
                        title: data.title,
                        options: data.options,
                        maxVotes: data.maxVotes,
                        endDate: data.endDate,
                        isClosed: false
                    };
                
                    var poll = await Polls.addPoll(data.tid, pollData, userData);
                
                    await Topics.tools.addPost(data.tid, data.uid, data.content, {
                        poll_id: poll.pid,
                        isMain: false
                    });
                
                    return poll;
                };
                
                module.exports = Poll;
                
                

                This script uses the Topics, Polls, privileges, and user NodeBB modules to add a poll to a forum post. You can call the Poll.addPoll function with an object containing the following data:

                tid: the ID of the topic to add the poll to
                uid: the ID of the user adding the poll
                title: the title of the poll
                options: an array of strings representing the poll options
                maxVotes: the maximum number of votes a user can cast
                endDate: the date the poll ends, as a Unix timestamp in milliseconds
                content: the content of the forum post
                

                The function returns a Promise that resolves to the poll object.

                You can call this function in your NodeBB plugin or theme file to create polls in forum posts. Make sure you have the necessary privileges to create posts in the relevant category before calling this function.

                jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                jdaviescoates
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @humptydumpty said in Uhhhh, there's a new Forum theme!:

                it's not as friendly for the app request posts.

                You can still order the posts by votes though 🤷

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                  I feel this new theme is cleaner and snappier, but I agree with @nichu42 that the sidebars on both sides are weird. Is it possible to adjust the menu placement?

                  If not, then +1 for the new theme. I'll get used to it.

                  Edit: I just noticed that the upvotes aren't visible until you hover on the post, so it's not as friendly for the app request posts.

                  @girish @nebulon Perhaps creating a poll for this would be best. A quick search came up with this plugin: https://www.npmjs.com/package/nodebb-plugin-poll

                  I asked ChatGPT to create a script for this function, and it spit this out. I'm not sure if it works or not.

                  'use strict';
                  
                  var Topics = require.main.require('./src/topics'),
                      Polls = require.main.require('./src/polls'),
                      privileges = require.main.require('./src/privileges'),
                      user = require.main.require('./src/user');
                  
                  var Poll = {};
                  
                  Poll.addPoll = async function(data) {
                      var topicData = await Topics.getTopicData(data.tid);
                      var userData = await user.getUserFields(data.uid, ['username', 'email']);
                  
                      if (!topicData) {
                          throw new Error('invalid-topic');
                      }
                  
                      if (topicData.locked) {
                          throw new Error('locked-topic');
                      }
                  
                      var canPost = await privileges.posts.can('create', data.cid, data.uid);
                      if (!canPost) {
                          throw new Error('[[error:no-privileges]]');
                      }
                  
                      if (!data.title) {
                          throw new Error('[[error:title-too-short]]');
                      }
                  
                      var pollData = {
                          title: data.title,
                          options: data.options,
                          maxVotes: data.maxVotes,
                          endDate: data.endDate,
                          isClosed: false
                      };
                  
                      var poll = await Polls.addPoll(data.tid, pollData, userData);
                  
                      await Topics.tools.addPost(data.tid, data.uid, data.content, {
                          poll_id: poll.pid,
                          isMain: false
                      });
                  
                      return poll;
                  };
                  
                  module.exports = Poll;
                  
                  

                  This script uses the Topics, Polls, privileges, and user NodeBB modules to add a poll to a forum post. You can call the Poll.addPoll function with an object containing the following data:

                  tid: the ID of the topic to add the poll to
                  uid: the ID of the user adding the poll
                  title: the title of the poll
                  options: an array of strings representing the poll options
                  maxVotes: the maximum number of votes a user can cast
                  endDate: the date the poll ends, as a Unix timestamp in milliseconds
                  content: the content of the forum post
                  

                  The function returns a Promise that resolves to the poll object.

                  You can call this function in your NodeBB plugin or theme file to create polls in forum posts. Make sure you have the necessary privileges to create posts in the relevant category before calling this function.

                  girishG Offline
                  girishG Offline
                  girish
                  Staff
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @humptydumpty Agreed, I find this hover toolbar to upvote quite annoying! Maybe we can fix this with some css.

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                  • girishG girish

                    @humptydumpty Agreed, I find this hover toolbar to upvote quite annoying! Maybe we can fix this with some css.

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                    L Offline
                    LoudLemur
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @girish said in Uhhhh, there's a new Forum theme!:

                    @humptydumpty Agreed, I find this hover toolbar to upvote quite annoying! Maybe we can fix this with some css.

                    It is quirky, but I liked your earlier suggestion of letting the new forum format bed-in for a while before we cast judgement. It is a new look and the initial reaction is negative because we need a bit of time to become used to it. However, those NodeBB people are smart enough to make this great forum software, so they probably had some pretty good reasons for changing the format.

                    Can we create a poll for this and have it start after a week or so?
                    Also, I am curious what the NodeBB forum has to say about it on their forum. They might have some interesting comments.

                    I say this, even though my current feeling is to revert back to the old way. Lets see...

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                    • timconsidineT Offline
                      timconsidineT Offline
                      timconsidine
                      App Dev
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      I encountered the new look before I saw the announcement, so it was a surprise.
                      Currently I see pro's and con's.
                      Mostly just got to get familiar with it.
                      Humans are generally resistant to change 😄, especially me !

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                      • P Offline
                        P Offline
                        p44
                        translator
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        I think readability from mobile is little bit improved with this new theme... Also, new theme seems to give more ability to focus on the contents, than functions/features.

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                        • L Offline
                          L Offline
                          LoudLemur
                          wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                          #12

                          This new appearance is the Harmony theme. NodeBB say, " This new default theme places an emphasis on usability and readability, as well as a broader focus on consistent design methology used throughout the templates."

                          There is a discussion about Harmony on NodeBB here:

                          https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17116/harmony-design-considerations-and-more

                          brave_lkDV7fyrK6.png

                          brave_rU0HqpspwH.png

                          The new forum also supports FontAwsome 6, so those who like icons might be happy:

                          https://blog.fontawesome.com/font-awesome-6-2/

                          Via YouChat AI:

                          brave_EUwcTW54Ox.png

                          Lets just try a couple:

                          <i class="fas fa-user-arrows"></i>

                          <i class="fas fa-user-arrows"></i>
                          
                          

                          <i class="fas fa-circle-plus"></i>

                          <i class="fas fa-photo-video fa-thin"></i>

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                          • robiR Offline
                            robiR Offline
                            robi
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            That is the first thing that stood out in the new design, the strong separation of the content column from the nav/menu making more screen realestate available for reading, even if slightly less wide, which is easier to scan left to right, like newspaper columns. Content column pipe.

                            Now if only one could do a continuous paging down to read the next unread without going back a page.

                            Conscious tech

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                              LoudLemur
                              wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                              #14

                              There is also a Beta Icon Wizard https://fontawesome.com/docs/web/add-icons/icon-wizard

                              brave_HgufZEATo3.png

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                                LoudLemur
                                wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                                #15

                                And also new animated icons that beat, fade, bounce, spin, flip etc:
                                https://fontawesome.com/docs/web/style/animate

                                We can make Cloudron bouncier, more spinnier, flipping place.

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                                  L Offline
                                  LoudLemur
                                  wrote on last edited by LoudLemur
                                  #16

                                  Here are some of the new Humanitarian icons:

                                  brave_2bvFEeeMUk.png

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                                  • L LoudLemur

                                    This new appearance is the Harmony theme. NodeBB say, " This new default theme places an emphasis on usability and readability, as well as a broader focus on consistent design methology used throughout the templates."

                                    There is a discussion about Harmony on NodeBB here:

                                    https://community.nodebb.org/topic/17116/harmony-design-considerations-and-more

                                    brave_lkDV7fyrK6.png

                                    brave_rU0HqpspwH.png

                                    The new forum also supports FontAwsome 6, so those who like icons might be happy:

                                    https://blog.fontawesome.com/font-awesome-6-2/

                                    Via YouChat AI:

                                    brave_EUwcTW54Ox.png

                                    Lets just try a couple:

                                    <i class="fas fa-user-arrows"></i>

                                    <i class="fas fa-user-arrows"></i>
                                    
                                    

                                    <i class="fas fa-circle-plus"></i>

                                    <i class="fas fa-photo-video fa-thin"></i>

                                    nichu42N Offline
                                    nichu42N Offline
                                    nichu42
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @LoudLemur

                                    Do I have a strange definition of usability and readability?
                                    This is how the forum renders in my browser:
                                    forum.png

                                    Matrix: @nichu42:blueplanet.social

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                                      J Offline
                                      JLX89
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      I just have to say, I'm really liking the new layout of the Cloudron Forum and a shout out to @girish @nebulon and @staff for everything you do! It's much appreciated!!

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                                        doodlemania2
                                        App Dev
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        I think it's pretty 🙂 But then again, I like new things. Keeps me (less) crumudgenly

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                                          timconsidine
                                          App Dev
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          It's growing on me .... now I've got over the "who moved effing UNREAD button" 😄
                                          Just a reprogramming those instinctive mouse movements

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