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  • girishG girish

    I added the server reboot email notification, which was requested elsewhere.

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    @girish 👏👏👏 Many thanks Server reboot is an important notification

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      • Deprecate Ubuntu 20.04 support - we won't remove support yet, but you will get a notification that support is going away soon. I think Jul 2025 is when Ubuntu 20.04 reaches EOL.
      • UI Redesign - this is a biggie and requires much work. We already started migrating to vuejs 3 months ago. We will also take this opportunity to fix the navigation in our UI. Currently, the whole navigation is crammed under the profile menu.
      • App Level (Disk) Storage Limit - This will let you size the maximum disk storage an app can use. Currently, the plan is to add support for XFS Project Quota (supported on all the cloud block storage devices) and also a loopback device based backend. Maybe in future, we will add a LVM based backend as well.
      • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
      • Show backup/restore progress
      • Multiple Backup Destinations
      • Granular Backup schedule
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      @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

      UI Redesign

      I'd like to see all my domains in one list, not to have to page through them.

      If you keep the page through option, please at least add a dropdown option to increase number of items listed from the current 10 to e.g. 25, 50, 100, 500

      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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        when is multihost coming?
        it’s been a feature promoted and on the horizon for years… kicked back, kicked back, and now it’s not even being kicked back It’s just not even mentioned?

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          @chris I mentioned elsewhere but mulit-host was on our radar but we haven't been able to justify implementing these features as we haven't found customers who would be willing to pay $ for complex features like these. If you are in the enterprise/medium business bracket and willing to work with us here, please contact us on support@cloudron.io. Our current business users simply set up multiple instances of Cloudron with a central LDAP and it gives them multihost already.

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          • girishG girish

            @chris I mentioned elsewhere but mulit-host was on our radar but we haven't been able to justify implementing these features as we haven't found customers who would be willing to pay $ for complex features like these. If you are in the enterprise/medium business bracket and willing to work with us here, please contact us on support@cloudron.io. Our current business users simply set up multiple instances of Cloudron with a central LDAP and it gives them multihost already.

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            @girish i couldn’t care less about ldap, but is it possible to get a combined ui to view all apps and a shared notification tab? That’s it. Simply a way to eliminate the need to log in into multiple dashboard. Maybe an app would solve this?

            Edit: to expand on this a bit. No need to have any admin abilities to manage each app. App status (down, running, etc.) is sufficient along with a combined notification tab to keep track of what updated, server reboots, failed backups, etc. Apps are grouped and listed by server. For instance, you'll have:

            Server 1


            Server 2


            Server 3


            Etc.

            Again, I'm no dev, but it looks like a custom app using API's can do this. With that said, the upcoming backup destinations is 1000% more important than this feature.

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            • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

              @girish i couldn’t care less about ldap, but is it possible to get a combined ui to view all apps and a shared notification tab? That’s it. Simply a way to eliminate the need to log in into multiple dashboard. Maybe an app would solve this?

              Edit: to expand on this a bit. No need to have any admin abilities to manage each app. App status (down, running, etc.) is sufficient along with a combined notification tab to keep track of what updated, server reboots, failed backups, etc. Apps are grouped and listed by server. For instance, you'll have:

              Server 1


              Server 2


              Server 3


              Etc.

              Again, I'm no dev, but it looks like a custom app using API's can do this. With that said, the upcoming backup destinations is 1000% more important than this feature.

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              @humptydumpty Custom app should be easy to build just using the API (which is now motsly documented by now) - https://docs.cloudron.io/api.html . I think the ldap itself is not interesting , but having a single set of users using all cloudron is quite nice for users (who probably don't know much about cloudron).

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              • humptydumptyH humptydumpty

                @girish i couldn’t care less about ldap, but is it possible to get a combined ui to view all apps and a shared notification tab? That’s it. Simply a way to eliminate the need to log in into multiple dashboard. Maybe an app would solve this?

                Edit: to expand on this a bit. No need to have any admin abilities to manage each app. App status (down, running, etc.) is sufficient along with a combined notification tab to keep track of what updated, server reboots, failed backups, etc. Apps are grouped and listed by server. For instance, you'll have:

                Server 1


                Server 2


                Server 3


                Etc.

                Again, I'm no dev, but it looks like a custom app using API's can do this. With that said, the upcoming backup destinations is 1000% more important than this feature.

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                @humptydumpty Just tell Deepseek what you want with the Cloudron docs and see how it does.

                Conscious tech

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                • robiR robi

                  @humptydumpty Just tell Deepseek what you want with the Cloudron docs and see how it does.

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                  @robi I heard deepseek isn’t that good for coding but does analysis well. I’m not keeping up with the ai craze though so don’t quote me on that.

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                    As long as you don't trust Deepseek too much https://www.wiz.io/blog/wiz-research-uncovers-exposed-deepseek-database-leak

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                      I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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                      • girishG girish

                        I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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                        @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!
                        Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 22.41.43.png

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                        • girishG girish

                          I have added a email notification for automatic cloudron update failures. Think most of the notification are covered by now 🤔

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                          @girish I'd like to suggest ssl cert renewal failure notifications if not implemented now that Let's Encrypt is stopping their email notification services.

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                            @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

                            On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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                            • girishG girish

                              @humptydumpty yes, that one is already implemented in 8.2.

                              On a side note: I wonder if it's useful to have a cron to check if the API keys of all added domains are "working" .

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                              @girish Yes please that one caused me some downtime before lol

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                                @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!
                                Screenshot 2025-02-04 at 22.41.43.png

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                                @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

                                Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                                For ex:
                                My Apps: [62] 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

                                Conscious tech

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                                • robiR robi

                                  @scooke said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                  @girish Let me just repeat that the color codes in the Dashboard are STILL handy and appreciated for showing Notification info at-a-glance!!

                                  Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                                  For ex:
                                  My Apps: [62] 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

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                                  @robi said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                  Similarly I'd appreciate a glance view of the running apps from the My Apps view

                                  For ex:
                                  My Apps: 44 🔵 10 🔴 7 🍏 1 ⚪

                                  Agreed. Great idea. At present there is no quick glance view letting you know status of apps but that would be really useful (instead of having to check each filter to find out)

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    @girish have you seen https://zero.rocicorp.dev/ or https://tinybase.org/ for keeping multicloudron synced across systems?

                                    Conscious tech

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      I added the server reboot email notification, which was requested elsewhere.

                                      image.png

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                                      @girish could you please, also add e-mail configuration issue? That helps in the cases, when your server's IP ends up in Spam list, for some reason.

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                                      • girishG girish
                                        • Deprecate Ubuntu 20.04 support - we won't remove support yet, but you will get a notification that support is going away soon. I think Jul 2025 is when Ubuntu 20.04 reaches EOL.
                                        • UI Redesign - this is a biggie and requires much work. We already started migrating to vuejs 3 months ago. We will also take this opportunity to fix the navigation in our UI. Currently, the whole navigation is crammed under the profile menu.
                                        • App Level (Disk) Storage Limit - This will let you size the maximum disk storage an app can use. Currently, the plan is to add support for XFS Project Quota (supported on all the cloud block storage devices) and also a loopback device based backend. Maybe in future, we will add a LVM based backend as well.
                                        • Backup integrity - store size and checksum of backups. Also provide a way to "verify" backup integrity in the remote.
                                        • Show backup/restore progress
                                        • Multiple Backup Destinations
                                        • Granular Backup schedule
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                                        @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                        Show backup/restore progress

                                        Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                                        Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                                        As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                                        • C charlesnw

                                          @girish said in What's coming in Cloudron 9:

                                          Show backup/restore progress

                                          Can you expand on this a bit? The current backup UI shows the progress.

                                          Granular Backup schedule / Multiple Backup Desinations

                                          As in per application? That would be awesome. For example, I would want say Nextcloud/Gitea/ Redmine backed up multiple places and daily, but MiroTalk/Searxng monthly and to one place. If it could be done off of tags, that would be wonderful. I would tag apps as stateful, stateless myself (and perhaps some kind of priority tag). If one could have some kind of Recovery Time Objective/Recovery Point Objective , that would be very "enterprise". Honestly just per app / tag granular backup schedule/destination would let one achieve that.

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                                          @charlesnw this feedback is very valuable!
                                          I could bet girish will take it to heart 🙂

                                          Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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