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Chat application thoughts?

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  • murgeroM Offline
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    murgero App Dev
    replied to mehdi on last edited by
    #14

    @mehdi 😶 oh yeah that makes sense >.<

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    ~ Professional Nerd. Freelance Programmer. ~
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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
    wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
    #15

    I've just been taking another look at Nextcloud Talk, and I have to say that both the web application and the mobile app are excellent.

    Unlike Element and Mattermost, Talk has the ability to add multiple servers, which is essential for me in managing multiple companies and clients. Plus, it is already using the Nextcloud LDAP integration for Cloudron user management.

    I haven't tried the Matterbridge yet but the concept does look very good and might tick all your boxes for ease of onboarding and security:

    • https://nextcloud.com/de/blog/bridging-chat-services-in-talk/
    • https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/talk_matterbridge

    Highly recommend revisiting and including this in your consideration.

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
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    doodlemania2 App Dev
    replied to marcusquinn on last edited by
    #16

    @marcusquinn on the Talk front, we're packaging Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend, so you should be able to scale up nicely soon(ish) 🙂

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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    replied to doodlemania2 on last edited by
    #17

    @doodlemania2 Ooooooo - that is nice! Owe you many 🍻

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
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  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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    replied to doodlemania2 on last edited by
    #18

    @doodlemania2 said in Chat application thoughts?:

    @marcusquinn on the Talk front, we're packaging Nextcloud Talk High Performance Backend, so you should be able to scale up nicely soon(ish) 🙂

    I'm really looking forward to that! 😄

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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  • murgeroM Offline
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    replied to marcusquinn on last edited by
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    @marcusquinn said in Chat application thoughts?:

    Unlike Element and Mattermost, Talk has the ability to add multiple servers, which is essential for me in managing multiple companies and clients. Plus, it is already using the Nextcloud LDAP integration for Cloudron user management.

    I assume you mean the ability to login to multiple servers given the context? I believe element supports this. Mattermost does not sadly.

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    replied to murgero on last edited by
    #20

    @murgero said in Chat application thoughts?:

    I assume you mean the ability to login to multiple servers given the context? I believe element supports this. Mattermost does not sadly.

    Yup, and stay logged in to get notifications from all servers and easily switch between the two.

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
    Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
    Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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    replied to jdaviescoates on last edited by
    #21

    @jdaviescoates It's up next as soon as I finish cleaning paperlessng and submitting (today hopefully). You can follow along on my https://git.cloudron.io/doodlemania2/nthpbe

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    replied to subven on last edited by
    #22

    @subven You can sponser them on github for like 5-10 bucks a month for more push notifications (which still work without paying, but with a cap) much cheaper than the cloud option, especially if you only need the push notifications

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    #23

    I've tried element/matrix and now rocket.chat. I find rocket.chat to be lightyears easier on administration/moderation then matrix. Admin rocket.chat is borderline enjoyable. Admin matrix was not. Additionally, the users i've talked to about ease of use (caveat only about 10) all preferred rocket hands down to element. Lastly, Rocket has the dankest GIFS.

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  • robiR Offline
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    replied to Mastadamus on last edited by
    #24

    @mastadamus but no dark mode ;-/

    Life of sky tech

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    replied to robi on last edited by
    #25

    @robi everything has dark-mode if you use darkreader.org or webcatalog.app. I've not found an app yet it doesn't work as well or better than an apps own dark styling.

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
    Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
    Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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  • robiR Offline
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    replied to marcusquinn on last edited by
    #26

    @marcusquinn rocket chat, desktop app.

    Life of sky tech

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    replied to robi on last edited by
    #27

    @robi Didn't know there was one. I'm guessing it's an Electron wrapper like almost every other "app" nowadays? In which case, I already roll my own with WebCatalog for the extra features.

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
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    Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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  • Sam_ukS Offline
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    replied to marcusquinn on last edited by
    #28

    Is anyone still enjoying Rocketchat?

    Did you move to Element or Mattermost? How has that been?

    Considering a Rocketchat > Mattermost move, but Matrix also a contender..

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  • girishG Offline
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    replied to Sam_uk on last edited by
    #29

    We moved to element/matrix. Can't say we miss rocket.chat as such. Can be a bit confusing when getting started though.

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  • DanTheManD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #30

    We used to be on RocketChat. But with al the changes in the app and restrictions on pop up notifications, we decided to change to Matrix 2 years ago.

    Since the change to Matrix everyone is more satisfied with the usage off it. Last I opened up a poll for everyone with the question "should we go back to Rocketchat or should we stay with Matrix?" The outcome was 100% Matrix.

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  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Same. Was on Rocket Chat but now use Matrix (and Nextcloud Talk)

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
    replied to Sam_uk on last edited by marcusquinn
    #32

    @Sam_uk Never looked back at Rocket Chat, although it is a decent app for the website chat integration. Much happier with Nextcloud Talk now, though. There's extra benefits from the integration with shared files etc. Apps work very well, including for native multi-person video calls. Happy to recommend it.

    We're not here for a long time - but we are here for a good time :)
    Jersey/UK
    Work & Ecommerce Advice: https://brandlight.org
    Personal & Software Tips: https://marcusquinn.com

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  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
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    replied to marcusquinn on last edited by
    #33

    @marcusquinn said in Chat application thoughts?:

    native multi-person video calls

    I had a little play with Matrix's new beta video call feature recently too, worked OK considering it's still a beta 🙂

    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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