Cloudron makes it easy to run web apps like WordPress, Nextcloud, GitLab on your server. Find out more or install now.


Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Bookmarks
  • Search
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

Cloudron Forum

Apps | Demo | Docs | Install
  1. Cloudron Forum
  2. Discuss
  3. Chat application thoughts?

Chat application thoughts?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Discuss
chatrocket.chatmattermostmatrix
41 Posts 18 Posters 6.3k Views 17 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • M Mastadamus

      I've tried element/matrix and now rocket.chat. I find rocket.chat to be lightyears easier on administration/moderation then matrix. Admin rocket.chat is borderline enjoyable. Admin matrix was not. Additionally, the users i've talked to about ease of use (caveat only about 10) all preferred rocket hands down to element. Lastly, Rocket has the dankest GIFS.

      robiR Offline
      robiR Offline
      robi
      wrote on last edited by
      #24

      @mastadamus but no dark mode ;-/

      Conscious tech

      marcusquinnM 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • robiR robi

        @mastadamus but no dark mode ;-/

        marcusquinnM Offline
        marcusquinnM Offline
        marcusquinn
        wrote on last edited by
        #25

        @robi everything has dark-mode if you use darkreader.org or webcatalog.app. I've not found an app yet it doesn't work as well or better than an apps own dark styling.

        Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
        Development https://brandlight.org
        Life https://marcusquinn.com

        robiR 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

          @robi everything has dark-mode if you use darkreader.org or webcatalog.app. I've not found an app yet it doesn't work as well or better than an apps own dark styling.

          robiR Offline
          robiR Offline
          robi
          wrote on last edited by
          #26

          @marcusquinn rocket chat, desktop app.

          Conscious tech

          marcusquinnM 1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • robiR robi

            @marcusquinn rocket chat, desktop app.

            marcusquinnM Offline
            marcusquinnM Offline
            marcusquinn
            wrote on last edited by
            #27

            @robi Didn't know there was one. I'm guessing it's an Electron wrapper like almost every other "app" nowadays? In which case, I already roll my own with WebCatalog for the extra features.

            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
            Development https://brandlight.org
            Life https://marcusquinn.com

            Sam_ukS 1 Reply Last reply
            1
            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @robi Didn't know there was one. I'm guessing it's an Electron wrapper like almost every other "app" nowadays? In which case, I already roll my own with WebCatalog for the extra features.

              Sam_ukS Offline
              Sam_ukS Offline
              Sam_uk
              wrote on last edited by
              #28

              Is anyone still enjoying Rocketchat?

              Did you move to Element or Mattermost? How has that been?

              Considering a Rocketchat > Mattermost move, but Matrix also a contender..

              girishG marcusquinnM 2 Replies Last reply
              0
              • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                Is anyone still enjoying Rocketchat?

                Did you move to Element or Mattermost? How has that been?

                Considering a Rocketchat > Mattermost move, but Matrix also a contender..

                girishG Offline
                girishG Offline
                girish
                Staff
                wrote on last edited by
                #29

                We moved to element/matrix. Can't say we miss rocket.chat as such. Can be a bit confusing when getting started though.

                1 Reply Last reply
                2
                • DanTheManD Offline
                  DanTheManD Offline
                  DanTheMan
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #30

                  We used to be on RocketChat. But with al the changes in the app and restrictions on pop up notifications, we decided to change to Matrix 2 years ago.

                  Since the change to Matrix everyone is more satisfied with the usage off it. Last I opened up a poll for everyone with the question "should we go back to Rocketchat or should we stay with Matrix?" The outcome was 100% Matrix.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                    jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                    jdaviescoates
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #31

                    Same. Was on Rocket Chat but now use Matrix (and Nextcloud Talk)

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    1
                    • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                      Is anyone still enjoying Rocketchat?

                      Did you move to Element or Mattermost? How has that been?

                      Considering a Rocketchat > Mattermost move, but Matrix also a contender..

                      marcusquinnM Offline
                      marcusquinnM Offline
                      marcusquinn
                      wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                      #32

                      @Sam_uk Never looked back at Rocket Chat, although it is a decent app for the website chat integration. Much happier with Nextcloud Talk now, though. There's extra benefits from the integration with shared files etc. Apps work very well, including for native multi-person video calls. Happy to recommend it.

                      Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

                      jdaviescoatesJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      1
                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        @Sam_uk Never looked back at Rocket Chat, although it is a decent app for the website chat integration. Much happier with Nextcloud Talk now, though. There's extra benefits from the integration with shared files etc. Apps work very well, including for native multi-person video calls. Happy to recommend it.

                        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                        jdaviescoatesJ Offline
                        jdaviescoates
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #33

                        @marcusquinn said in Chat application thoughts?:

                        native multi-person video calls

                        I had a little play with Matrix's new beta video call feature recently too, worked OK considering it's still a beta 🙂

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • C Offline
                          C Offline
                          crazybrad
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #34

                          Having an awful time getting a Rocket.Chat workspace off the ground. Stuck in "Wizard" mode, now their registration portal won't grant me access using either password or email (passwordless). Is this typical experience with them? Any recommendations for simple website chat? (Matrix is too much for my user community.)

                          girishG Sam_ukS 2 Replies Last reply
                          1
                          • C crazybrad

                            Having an awful time getting a Rocket.Chat workspace off the ground. Stuck in "Wizard" mode, now their registration portal won't grant me access using either password or email (passwordless). Is this typical experience with them? Any recommendations for simple website chat? (Matrix is too much for my user community.)

                            girishG Offline
                            girishG Offline
                            girish
                            Staff
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #35

                            @crazybrad By website chat, do you like the 'Live chat' that you embed on a website?

                            C 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • C crazybrad

                              Having an awful time getting a Rocket.Chat workspace off the ground. Stuck in "Wizard" mode, now their registration portal won't grant me access using either password or email (passwordless). Is this typical experience with them? Any recommendations for simple website chat? (Matrix is too much for my user community.)

                              Sam_ukS Offline
                              Sam_ukS Offline
                              Sam_uk
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #36

                              @crazybrad I'm not a fan of Rocketchat.

                              Mattermost is working OK for us.

                              BrutalBirdieB 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • Sam_ukS Sam_uk

                                @crazybrad I'm not a fan of Rocketchat.

                                Mattermost is working OK for us.

                                BrutalBirdieB Offline
                                BrutalBirdieB Offline
                                BrutalBirdie
                                Partner
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #37

                                @Sam_uk my big problem with Mattermost is that OIDC and LDAP is behind the paywall.

                                Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

                                Sam_ukS 1 Reply Last reply
                                2
                                • girishG girish

                                  @crazybrad By website chat, do you like the 'Live chat' that you embed on a website?

                                  C Offline
                                  C Offline
                                  crazybrad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @girish I was looking at both embedding a chat widget on a website (for customer support) and also for a group chat platform like Matrix. Since hitting the wall on RocketChat, I turned to ChatWoot. The Cloudron implementation is excellent, was able to tweak some env parameters as needed and it looks great so far. @Sam_uk @BrutalBirdie Thanks for sharing your experience with Mattermost. For the user community I need to support, something as simple as Telegram is what I am hoping to find. In your opinions, is Mattermost really simple for end users?

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                                    @Sam_uk my big problem with Mattermost is that OIDC and LDAP is behind the paywall.

                                    Sam_ukS Offline
                                    Sam_ukS Offline
                                    Sam_uk
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #39

                                    @BrutalBirdie Yeah, for nonprofits the paywall is low. I think we paid $200 for three years, unlimited users.

                                    There are some workarounds using Gitlab auth for me the $200 was worth it.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    2
                                    • robiR Offline
                                      robiR Offline
                                      robi
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #40

                                      Zulip.com has some nice integrations including WP, is self-hostable but has not been packaged yet.

                                      Conscious tech

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      1
                                      • girishG Offline
                                        girishG Offline
                                        girish
                                        Staff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #41

                                        Zulip is quite different UI-wise from other chat applications. It's concept of threads/topics may or may not be confusing depending on what previous chat application you used. https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/ is rust lang's zulip instance if you want to check it out.

                                        Does anyone have experiences to share about Zulip here?

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        1
                                        Reply
                                        • Reply as topic
                                        Log in to reply
                                        • Oldest to Newest
                                        • Newest to Oldest
                                        • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Bookmarks
                                          • Search