Miro alternative?
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As I've maybe mentioned before I'm a UX designer and user researcher. I'm a big user of Miro, especially now with the Covid-19s - work I'd be doing with clients standing in front of a wall with sticky notes and pieces of paper I now have t0 do remotely. (mainly planning research/workshops/heavily collaborative work).
Last year I spent some time looking for alternatives to Miro (mainly Whimsical, and Mural) but didn't find any actually useful and usable alternatives.
Is anyone aware of a self-hostable, open source alternative?
Thanks!
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Adding some convenience links for the post

- https://miro.com/
- https://alternativeto.net/software/miro--formerly-realtimeboard/?license=opensource
- https://www.getapp.com/collaboration-software/a/realtimeboard/alternatives/?pricingcategories_slug[]=open-source
- https://www.guidingtech.com/microsoft-whiteboard-alternatives/
Interesting App - can't spot any obvious alternative though unless one of the Video Conferencing / Screensharing apps has something similar included as a feature.
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Adding some convenience links for the post

- https://miro.com/
- https://alternativeto.net/software/miro--formerly-realtimeboard/?license=opensource
- https://www.getapp.com/collaboration-software/a/realtimeboard/alternatives/?pricingcategories_slug[]=open-source
- https://www.guidingtech.com/microsoft-whiteboard-alternatives/
Interesting App - can't spot any obvious alternative though unless one of the Video Conferencing / Screensharing apps has something similar included as a feature.
@marcusquinn Derp. I should have added some links.
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I haven't used miro, but is https://github.com/lovasoa/whitebophir anywhere close?
@girish Fundamentally yes, but Miro is more advanced (obviously, it's a massive-ish company).
It is an infinitely zoomable canvas and web whiteboard, but also:
- allows collaborative editing, commenting, viewing
- sharing of boards
- presenting of boards
- provide video, chat (which are terrible, so scratch those!)
- provides a whole series of templates people can use (these are excellent, and - obviously weren't there at the beginning
- allows exporing/importing of boards
- presentation mode
- integrations with lots of tools (in and out)
I've used Framasoft's FramaBoard in the past for these types of activities but I'm afraid it's not as powerful.
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Maybe interesting related app being made public from wordpress.com:
- https://wordpress.com/blog/2020/08/06/improve-your-remote-collaboration-with-p2/
- https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/06/wordpress-com-launches-new-p2-to-take-on-internal-communication-tools/ (maybe open sourced soon)
- https://wordpress.org/themes/p2/ (old version of it as a theme)
- https://ma.tt/2009/05/how-p2-changed-automattic/
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Maybe the Cryptpad Whiteboard could be relevant, although certainly Miro is quite a mature and slick App, I can't see any direct FOSS alternatives, it would more likely be a combination of tools to replicate all the features.
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Actually, Excalidraw looks really neat!
It doesn't support advanced stuff like Mentions and has only very limited text formatting options, but if it's just about brainstorming some ideas and putting a couple of post-its on a whiteboard, one can get quite far with it. Plus: doesn't need a lengthy introduction as it is super intuitive.
Stack: React, Rough.js, TypeScript, VercelWould love to see this in Cloudron.
https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
https://excalidraw.com/Edit: Already suggested in the Wishlist.
Edit2: Also Spacedeck. Suggested already, you can upvote it here.
@jdaviescoates has already caught them all ...
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Actually, Excalidraw looks really neat!
It doesn't support advanced stuff like Mentions and has only very limited text formatting options, but if it's just about brainstorming some ideas and putting a couple of post-its on a whiteboard, one can get quite far with it. Plus: doesn't need a lengthy introduction as it is super intuitive.
Stack: React, Rough.js, TypeScript, VercelWould love to see this in Cloudron.
https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
https://excalidraw.com/Edit: Already suggested in the Wishlist.
Edit2: Also Spacedeck. Suggested already, you can upvote it here.
@jdaviescoates has already caught them all ...
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Actually, Excalidraw looks really neat!
It doesn't support advanced stuff like Mentions and has only very limited text formatting options, but if it's just about brainstorming some ideas and putting a couple of post-its on a whiteboard, one can get quite far with it. Plus: doesn't need a lengthy introduction as it is super intuitive.
Stack: React, Rough.js, TypeScript, VercelWould love to see this in Cloudron.
https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
https://excalidraw.com/Edit: Already suggested in the Wishlist.
Edit2: Also Spacedeck. Suggested already, you can upvote it here.
@jdaviescoates has already caught them all ...
@jdaviescoates sorry! my bad.
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@jdaviescoates sorry! my bad.
@kuchengrab actually my bad! I posted (and then deleted) a post saying to upvote it, but you'd already done so!

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Actually, Excalidraw looks really neat!
It doesn't support advanced stuff like Mentions and has only very limited text formatting options, but if it's just about brainstorming some ideas and putting a couple of post-its on a whiteboard, one can get quite far with it. Plus: doesn't need a lengthy introduction as it is super intuitive.
Stack: React, Rough.js, TypeScript, VercelWould love to see this in Cloudron.
https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
https://excalidraw.com/Edit: Already suggested in the Wishlist.
Edit2: Also Spacedeck. Suggested already, you can upvote it here.
@jdaviescoates has already caught them all ...
@kuchengrab This looks really nice design. I really like the sketch fidelity.
The functionality is basic, but still very nice.Spacedeck looks nice too, but the low-fidelity of Exaclidraw draws me to it more.
I really need to learn how to make packages for Cloudron so I can get some of these apps packaged.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't like the script font and wish there were a few more font and formatting options, but I understand that they probably want to KISS.
True, I also wish I could package something like that, but I just started out with running my own dockers on a VPS.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't like the script font and wish there were a few more font and formatting options, but I understand that they probably want to KISS.
True, I also wish I could package something like that, but I just started out with running my own dockers on a VPS.
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imho the best alternative that can be found is draw.io it's amazing and there even is a plugin to install in NextCloud in "New Document".
I've used the app for a while and indeed it's amazing, of course it's open source and I've not investigated deeply but there's apparently already a docker image :
https://github.com/jgraph/docker-drawioAndy
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@yusf PenPot does look nice doesn't it.
See also Spacedeck (which is included in Nextcloud 21 too as https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/integration_whiteboard ).
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