Rust Desk

[ApplegateR]

https://rustdesk.com/
https://rustdesk.com/server/
https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/releases

I really hope forward see this in this cloudron. I had believed this will he helpful so much.

[marcusquinn]

Looked at this a while ago, looks great but you do need to pay for a license to get the self-hosting code.

I'd have thought this already has a wishlist post, but it seems not.

Good video on how it works:

[girish]

I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

[marcusquinn]

It seems self-hosted is free now. Maybe they are working towards the same free self-hosted and paid hosted business model with the Web Beta:

• https://rustdesk.com/server/

Another video to add to the above:

[ApplegateR]

@marcusquinn +1

[RazielKanos]

nay news on this? would really be neat

[stbg]

Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?
(I mean the Cloudron compatibility in that respect)
It's apparently a fork of Rustdesk.

FYI @girish

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg said in Rust Desk:

Could sb. check the licensing of https://www.hoptodesk.com ?

Looks like it's GPL
https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

Afaik that shouldn't be an issue with using it on Cloudron.

[marcusquinn]

@stbg Great find!

I seem to remember the RustDesk one-man show that didn't answer all community questions related to the open source server part, was a bit of an outstanding question as to the motives and trustworthiness.

Difficult though, as I also think there might have just been some cultural bias and shyness issues too.

This fork looks a bit better at explaining itself.

Rare to see FOSS on GitLab first nowadays, that's interesting. Despite it still being quite the disrupter in the space.

Worth a read:

• https://www.reddit.com/r/HopToDesk/

[stbg]

Ok, super, so as license is good, could you please add it, @girish ?

@marcusquinn, true, FOSS being first on GitLab is rare, but it happens, see Baserow.

Although I'd still like to know more about who is behind HopToDesk.

What I don't understand with RustDesk is that the dev has an amazing star history on Github, but then hasn't figured out the business model – which is blocking him.

With licensing being not clear, it can't be here. Nice rhym
aka on Cloudron.

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg said in Rust Desk:

With licensing being not clea

I'm confused. What license is not clear?

Rust Desk and HopToDesk are clearly both AGPL-3.0 license :

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/blob/master/LICENSE
https://gitlab.com/hoptodesk/hoptodesk/-/blob/main/LICENSE

[stbg]

@jdaviescoates: see here, what girish wrote above:

@girish said in Rust Desk:

I am not sure what is open source and what is not.

https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/30 says the "API Server" is not. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/26 says "it is not ready yet". https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk-server/issues/20 then says it is free and open source.

Looks like they are trying to figure out the business model.

[jdaviescoates]

@stbg thanks, I just asked for clarity in their Discord.

Someone (not a RustDesk dev, but someone who is aware of what's being done) replied:

Rustdesk Client - AGPL-3.0
Rustdesk Server - AGPL-3.0
The API (addressbook etc) hasnt been released yet so whether its opensource or not it wouldnt stop anything, also there are afew opensource addressbooks being worked on

I also spotted they have docs for self-hosting here:
https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/install/

This is the install script:
https://github.com/techahold/rustdeskinstall

[stbg]

@jdaviescoates wow, super, thanks for figuring that out!
@girish can you add the service now? + hoptodesk? (see thread above)

[potemkin_ai]

Upvoting as well

[stevespaw]

OK I have installed this on a separate server - it was super easy with Docker. I did not do the "pro" version, just the OSS. The only "downside" is that you have to send a text file with ServerID (IP address) and Key (which you can get from the docker log easily). The performance is awesome - if this was Cloudron it would be amazing. Please !

[stevespaw]

https://rustdesk.com/blog/2024/10/rustdesk-web-client-v2-preview/

The last part I have not spent time on is the ws setting to allow this to connect in a web browser:

https://rustdesk.com/docs/en/self-host/rustdesk-server-pro/faq/#8-add-websocket-secure-wss-support-for-the-id-server-and-relay-server-to-enable-secure-communication-for-the-web-client

This would be really great! (some nginx stuff)

[marcusquinn]

@stevespaw Also agreed!

[hollosch]

@girish could you have a look to newest version of rust? And would this be a possible app for cloudron?

[overholt]

I'd like to see this as well.