Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud

[eddowding]

I'm spending a small fortune on Backblaze it seems.

1. Is it possible to backup to a cheaper provider? eg https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=lifetime

2. What solutions / tips do you have to reduce backup costs?

[nichu42]

@eddowding
Cloudron gives you plenty of protocols to choose from.
I am backing up to https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-box via SSHFS. Only paying €3.81 currently (for 1 TB), which is more than fair IMO.
If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing). It's an S3 compatible service.

[GregY]

@nichu42 said in Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud:

If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing). It's an S3 compatible service.

Hetzner also has US-based VPS and storage volumes.

I use Hetzner as my VPS provider and Backblaze B2 to backup data. As I migrate services to self-hosted options, I'm thinking of using Hetzner for both.

[jdaviescoates]

@nichu42 said in Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud:

If your VPS is not in Europe, you can also check out IDrive e2 (https://www.idrive.com/e2/pricing). It's an S3 compatible service.

Currently has insanely cheap 90% off prices for the first year, plus EU options. Not powered by renewables though.

I use Hetzner Storage Boxes like many others here. Hard to beat value (cheaper than iDrive e2 standard prices) and 100% renewable electricity too.

[BrutalBirdie]

Also Hetzner Storage Box here, just super cheap and it just works like 95% of the time.
I use SSHFS with the Storage Box.

[eddowding]

FWIW I asked pCloud:

Unfortunately, we do not support SSH but WebDAV. Here are the settings to access your pCloud account via WebDav protocol:
link: https://webdav.pcloud.com (US servers) or https://ewebdav.pcloud.com (EU servers)

[timconsidine]

@eddowding I use Scaleway for Cloudron backups and Hetzner storage box for other archives

[eddowding]

@nichu42 they seem to have sites in the EU too, which is nice - thank you !

I'm confused how to configure it, if you have any tips. I'm trying all sorts of combinations of IP / endpoints, access id, secret, username etc to no avail so far.

[jdaviescoates]

@eddowding pretty sure @marcusquinn is using it for backups so should be able to help

[jdaviescoates]

@eddowding said in Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud:

endpoints

often it's just that you're missing an https:// or something

[marcusquinn]

@jdaviescoates I'm using IDrive e2 (S3 compatible) and tarball backups. Seems to be the best speed & cost ratio.

[privsec]

@staff
If may be prudent to list a section in the docs specifically for backup providers with referral links to good service providers that are cheap and use renewable power.

Just a thought

[jdaviescoates]

@marcusquinn said in Reducing backup costs / Backup to pCloud:

@jdaviescoates I'm using IDrive e2 (S3 compatible) and tarball backups. Seems to be the best speed & cost ratio.

I know, that's why I tagged you, because my old chum @eddowding was looking for support in getting that set up

[johannesjom]

Regardless of the provider, the possibility to copy the backup to a webdav share would be very good!

[Mad_Mattho]

@eddowding Hi there, I am new to cloudron but have it installed, and want to use webdav to send my cloudron backups to my pcloud account as described in your post here, I have a european server pcloud account with 3TB available so this should get me going well, I just need some help setting the webdav to pcloud as my backup choice, can you please post a description of exactly how to do this as I have searched and found no more info on this or using webdav for this purpose in general?
Your help is appreciated!

[girish]

@Mad_Mattho Cloudron does not have a way to backup to WebDav . Afaict, pcloud has no way to be "s3 compatible" either. So, it's not straightforward to backup to pcloud.

[marcusquinn]

@Mad_Mattho Checkout iDrive.com e2 or Hetzner.com Storage Box, both well tested and liked by many here.