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I have used sogo for calendar / contact syncing. I don't like the interface for out of office, and the fact that mail clients like thunderbird can't sync / interact with it, making user have to use the web interface just for this feature is a bit annoying.
So I'm wondering if theres a better way to do it? Lots of people use outlook, and with exchange/o365 this feature is easily understood and used by end users. To some companies it so important, not having it is a deal breaker.

https://www.techzine.eu/news/privacy-compliance/131536/microsofts-icc-blockade-digital-dependence-comes-at-a-cost/
US lawmakers are forcing US companies to end service for foreign people it doesn't like.
Maybe the ICC would make a great cloudron customer

I changed my router (16/5) (previous one is old, and recently published it has multiple vulnerabilities).
Fine, new router is up and running but self hosted cloudron server has a different ipv6. Gmail was refusing to accept my outbound email.
I really don't know enough to make the new router give the same ipv6. So just logged a ticket for my ISP to update the PTR record.

Cloudron server detects my public ipv6 as 2406:1e00:9b10:1038:9e5c:8eff:fe76:b135
This is what I asked the ISP to set the PTR too. (16/5)
18/5 ISP confirms changes are made
When I checked the AAAA record (19/5) with mxtoolbox it was wrong. 2406:1e00:9b10:10:9e5c:8eff:fe76:b135, it appears to be wrong at digital ocean (automatically updated).

I have manually corrected the data. Also the mail servers PTR self-check is happy again. But I'm still getting...

Failure Reason: Error: 550 5.7.25 [2406:1e00:b910:1038:9e5c:8eff:fe76:b135] The IP address sending this 5.7.25 message does not have a PTR record setup, or the corresponding 5.7.25 forward DNS entry does not match the sending IP

Should I just wait longer?
EDIT: I Just found a typo 9b10 is b910. Hopefully once that goes through it starts working again.
Edit2: Yep its works fine now.

I've used both, jellyfin was useable, if at times a little clunky. plex is more polished however has its own tarnish added by the way the devs are pushing how you can use it.
Currently I'm running plex (wrongly) on the cloudron server, because despite having a GPU & working drivers in it, due to the way the docker system and jellyfin work together the performance was rubbish. One day I'll dedicate a different box to plex. I bought the lifetime license, so get all the niceities that seem more elusive on jellyfin.
I use a roku for one TV, and while my other smart TV (Sony) is much newer the built in app runs worse

I have looked at the tutorial https://github.com/M-arcus/cloudron-docs/blob/master/developer/docs/packaging.md
And found it rather hard to follow, even the first line to type doesn't make it clear you shouldn't be running it on the server!
Also I've not done any docker stuff before, so the basics of it are already over my head, and the links in the tutorial are also broken..
ie https://github.com/M-arcus/cloudron-docs/blob/master/developer/baseimage
However I found https://git.cloudron.io/docs/tutorial-basic/-/blob/master/Dockerfile?ref_type=heads

I'm hoping someone with experience could give some guidance on getting a custom app installed. (my chosen app is https://github.com/HiEventsDev/Hi.Events/tree/develop)
Which already has a dockerfile, which I guess has to be edited to meet the requirements of cloudron.
Do I need to create a git account & put my custom app files on github to make this work ?

Is the login page meant to look like

(The big login is centered on the screen.) Because none of my customers using it can even find the openid login

So with a self hosted install I would need to ask the ISP to set up the ipv6 PTR like they ip4 record ?

I've had some issues with 2FA and nextcloud. On my android phone the freshly installed nextcloud app opens a browser page, I click "cloudron login" and get an error about

Access forbidden State token does not match

After retrying "it just works" TM

Also I used a new account to get into nextcloud, on my PC / firefox, and went to use my normal account afterwards but it automatically goes to the new account, is there a cookie / cached token or something I can delete to fix this? Clearing the entire cache is annoying.

oh nevermind. I read the "you can try" instructions in the output

sudo ln -sf /usr/local/node-20.18.0/bin/node /usr/bin/node
sudo ln -sf /usr/local/node-20.18.0/bin/npm /usr/bin/npm
sudo systemctl restart box

And that seems to have gotten it going again. /phew

I installed netdata into ubuntu with apt install, didn't want to keep it & then removed it and autoremoved the dependencies it left behind.
This seems to have uninstalled node.
I tried apt install npm, but its a different version now (10.1.0) cloudron wants (20.18.0)
I tried npm install -g n 20.18.0
but it cannot find such a version.
What do?

Just to FYI, when I used phantomjs the pdfs would preview in app, and send email, but the receiver would not be able to view the pdf.
I had to use

PDF_GENERATOR=snappdf
SNAPPDF_CHROMIUM_PATH=/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable

to get proper functionality back.

@girish Yes I have 1.1.6.0... but I don't have those lines in the env file. I'll try just add them manually, before I do a reinstall.

EDIT: Manually adding those lines to the env file has fixed it for me.

Now my workaround doesn't work either, the invoices are unreadable/blank for mail recipients.

@humptydumpty No they look the same with either generated for me. (thankfully)

As a work around I changed a line in the env file to:
PHANTOMJS_PDF_GENERATION=true

Now my pdf's generate and invoices email sucessfully ( the non-generation also stopped email sending).

Just get an error pop up during pdf generation
500: Internal Server Error • Unable to generate the raw PDF

Jan 08 08:45:00 2025-01-07 19:45:00 Running [queue-size-job] .................. 11.89ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:00 2025-01-07 19:45:00 Running [Callback] ......................... 6.49ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:00 2025-01-07T19:45:00Z
Jan 08 08:45:01 2025-01-07 19:45:01 App\Jobs\Ninja\QueueSize ....................... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:01 2025-01-07 19:45:01 App\Jobs\Ninja\QueueSize ................... 4.72ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:10 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:10 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 2055 "-" "Mozilla (CloudronHealth)"
Jan 08 08:45:13 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:13 +0000] "POST /api/v1/refresh?&first_load=true&include_static=true&einvoice=true HTTP/1.1" 200 1458783 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:14 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:14 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:14 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:14 +0000] "GET /api/v1/clients?per_page=5000&page=1&t=1736279114993 HTTP/1.1" 200 876154 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:14 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:14 +0000] "GET /api/v1/products?per_page=5000&page=1&t=1736279115402 HTTP/1.1" 200 93828 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:15 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:14 +0000] "GET /api/v1/invoices?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671115&filter_deleted_clients=true HTTP/1.1" 200 2182259 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:15 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:15 +0000] "GET /api/v1/recurring_invoices?per_page=5000&page=1&filter_deleted_clients=true&t=1736279116193 HTTP/1.1" 200 5083 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:15 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:15 +0000] "GET /api/v1/payments?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671116&filter_deleted_clients=true HTTP/1.1" 200 638748 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/quotes?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671117&filter_deleted_clients=true HTTP/1.1" 200 147751 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/credits?created_at=1641671117&filter_deleted_clients=true&per_page=999999 HTTP/1.1" 200 1019 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/projects?&filter_deleted_clients=true&per_page=999999&t=1736279117250 HTTP/1.1" 200 1019 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/tasks?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671117 HTTP/1.1" 200 1019 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/vendors?per_page=5000&page=1&t=1736279117448 HTTP/1.1" 200 326228 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:16 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:16 +0000] "GET /api/v1/purchase_orders?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671118 HTTP/1.1" 200 1019 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:17 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:17 +0000] "GET /api/v1/expenses?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671118 HTTP/1.1" 200 9279 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:17 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:17 +0000] "GET /api/v1/recurring_expenses?&per_page=999999&t=1736279118057 HTTP/1.1" 200 1019 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:17 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:17 +0000] "GET /api/v1/bank_transactions?per_page=5000&page=1&created_at=1641671118 HTTP/1.1" 200 7801 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:19 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:19 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 2055 "-" "Mozilla (CloudronHealth)"
Jan 08 08:45:20 2025-01-07 19:45:20,157 INFO reaped unknown pid 134 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:20 2025-01-07 19:45:20,157 INFO reaped unknown pid 136 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:18 +0000] "POST /api/v1/live_preview?entity=invoice&entity_id=Opnell5eKB HTTP/1.1" 500 812 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "GET /api/v1/clients/kQBeXWdyK8?include=gateway_tokens,activities,ledger,system_logs,documents&per_page=999999&t=1736279121334 HTTP/1.1" 200 71545 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:20 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "POST /api/v1/templates? HTTP/1.1" 200 9764 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:21 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:20 +0000] "GET /client/invoice/qC5VZY8LtLI8vBEPdJfLiWQ72yW0nMRj/download?t=1736279121337 HTTP/1.1" 500 1744 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:21 2025-01-07 19:45:21,632 INFO reaped unknown pid 144 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:21 2025-01-07 19:45:21,632 INFO reaped unknown pid 146 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:30 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:30 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 2055 "-" "Mozilla (CloudronHealth)"
Jan 08 08:45:32 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:32 +0000] "POST /api/v1/emails? HTTP/1.1" 200 5484 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:32 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:32 +0000] "POST /api/v1/refresh?current_company=true&updated_at=1736277618&first_load=true HTTP/1.1" 200 370120 "-" "Dart/3.3 (dart:io)"
Jan 08 08:45:34 2025-01-07 19:45:34 Laravel\Scout\Jobs\MakeSearchable .............. RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:34 2025-01-07 19:45:34 Laravel\Scout\Jobs\MakeSearchable ......... 34.61ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:34 2025-01-07 19:45:34 App\Services\Email\Email ....................... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:34 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:34 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:34 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:34 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:35 2025-01-07 19:45:35 App\Services\Email\Email2025-01-07 19:45:35,742 INFO reaped unknown pid 153 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:35 2025-01-07 19:45:35,742 INFO reaped unknown pid 155 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:35 ....................... 1s FAIL
Jan 08 08:45:35 2025-01-07 19:45:35 Laravel\Scout\Jobs\MakeSearchable .............. RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:35 2025-01-07 19:45:35 Laravel\Scout\Jobs\MakeSearchable .......... 2.71ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:36 12:M 07 Jan 2025 19:45:36.082 * 10 changes in 300 seconds. Saving...
Jan 08 08:45:36 12:M 07 Jan 2025 19:45:36.082 * Background saving started by pid 4541
Jan 08 08:45:36 4541:C 07 Jan 2025 19:45:36.088 * DB saved on disk
Jan 08 08:45:36 4541:C 07 Jan 2025 19:45:36.088 * Fork CoW for RDB: current 0 MB, peak 0 MB, average 0 MB
Jan 08 08:45:36 12:M 07 Jan 2025 19:45:36.183 * Background saving terminated with success
Jan 08 08:45:38 2025-01-07 19:45:38 App\Jobs\Ledger\ClientLedgerBalanceUpdate ...... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:38 2025-01-07 19:45:38 App\Jobs\Ledger\ClientLedgerBalanceUpdate . 14.51ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:38 2025-01-07 19:45:38 App\Listeners\Invoice\InvoiceEmailActivity ..... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:38 2025-01-07 19:45:38 App\Listeners\Invoice\InvoiceEmailActivity 13.20ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:40 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:40 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 302 2055 "-" "Mozilla (CloudronHealth)"
Jan 08 08:45:44 2025-01-07 19:45:44 App\Listeners\Invoice\UpdateInvoiceActivity .... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:45 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:45 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:45 2025-01-07 19:45:45 App\Listeners\Invoice\UpdateInvoiceActivity 496.66ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:45 2025-01-07 19:45:45 App\Listeners\Invoice\InvoiceEmailedNotification RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:45 2025-01-07 19:45:45 App\Listeners\Invoice\InvoiceEmailedNotification 11.18ms DONE
Jan 08 08:45:48 2025-01-07 19:45:48 App\Services\Email\Email ....................... RUNNING
Jan 08 08:45:48 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:48 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:48 172.18.0.1 - - [07/Jan/2025:19:45:48 +0000] "GET /storage/wy7367YjZKJ1MeibNz7hWcqVUuzfvlYV/RE1ZVEX72zOe7y3YneTYcG4Y9oae9HMlDUOZg95d.png HTTP/1.1" 200 9907 "-" "-"
Jan 08 08:45:49 2025-01-07 19:45:49 App\Services\Email\Email2025-01-07 19:45:49,773 INFO reaped unknown pid 164 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:49 2025-01-07 19:45:49,773 INFO reaped unknown pid 162 (exit status 0)
Jan 08 08:45:49 ....................... 1s FAIL

Ended up removing jellyfin from cloudron, its basically useless without hardware transcoding, imo.

I followed these instructions https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-to-install-jellyfin-media-server-on-ubuntu-22-04/ to install it in ubuntu (i know its not a supported config). And streaming with nvidia support makes it work like a different product. I don't have fancy DNS or SSL certs ...but it works

Paying cloudron customers view...I went for cloudron because of its easy automated mail server, and the nextcloud app. The other fluff was just nice to haves initially. Even now theres no app thats essential to me. I think cloudrons popularity is due to them getting it right, and app devs getting their apps on cloudron acts mostly as a promotion of the app they make. ie I'd never heard of clearflask, until your post here.

Found it here https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1h788o1/built_an_opensource_self_hosted_transcription/
Only supports google meet right now, but has plans for teams, and nextcloud talk. (open to other suggestions too)
EDIT : Ahh crap was meant to be a app wishlist.

Did it make any difference?
Assuming its functioning I would think the docker start would still have to be modified.
ie docker run --gpu all <container> where ever that is.