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mhgcicM

North West Hope Trust (Formally Mersey Hub Group CIC)

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  • ICEHRM
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    It would be great to see ICEHRM added to the list.

    Github: https://github.com/gamonoid/icehrm

    We use it to manage our volunteers.

    We find most HRM complicated for some to manage volunteers, especially for not being HR trained.

    We use it to

    • Securely keep volunteer information (DOB, Numbers, Addresses, ID Evidence, Documents like agreements and more.
    • Management of volunteer leave like when ill or on holiday.
    • We use it for time sheets to track when they have been in or if they are not coming in enough.
    • We use it to manage our volunteer's expenses.
    • Forms
    • Volunteer training management and more.

    We like it because

    • Free for the most part.
    • Easy to use.
    • Integrations into google.
    • They have an app.
    • It is well worth the time and great for NPO and charities alike.
    App Wishlist icehrm hrm

  • Misskey
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @girish Thank you ever so much, nope we are not a bot. We are a non-profit, and we use Cloudron to connect people with disabilities, housebound and much more using technology and the internet.

    Thank you for the upvote, helps very much.

    App Wishlist misskey fediverse

  • Cloudron update to 7.5.1 - Success!
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @jdaviescoates said in Cloudron update to 7.5.1 - Success!:

    @mhgcic said in Cloudron update to 7.5.1 - Success!:

    I could increase the RAM to see if that helps.

    Regardless if it is what's causing the issues you're currently facing, I'd definitely get more RAM if I were you.

    Each instance of Mastodon needs at least 1.5GB and each instance of Discourse at least 2GB. Already that is at least 10.5GB RAM you need before you've included all your other apps plus Cloudron and Ubuntu themselves.

    And these are bare minimums. If you have users actually actively using these apps they'll need more.

    We know this and monitor daily, and we have software that lets us know that RAM needs to be increased whether it is on a server level or on an app level.

    We upgrade as and when needed, We also use throttling so if extra RAM or CPU is needed it is given until we decide on its upgrade needs.

    After testing it had nothing to do with CPU or RAM it seems to be networking or a service possibly.

    Discuss feedback updates 7.5.1

  • cPanel DNS
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    It would be nice to see integration for cPanel DNS.

    We have to manually create and update all records as we use cPanel for our main websites and have our apps on subdomains.

    For example, the website below we run on a cPanel server, but the apps you see on the website community, chat, forums are apps on Cloudron.

    screenshot-www.cortexspace.support-2023.08.28-17_47_20.png

    It would be great for Cloudron to create/update cPanel DNS for a domain. At the moment we use the Dynamic DNS feature on cPanel to point to our apps, it is the fastest and easiest way to get them working.

    Feature Requests cpanel dns integration

  • Zoho ZeptoMail
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    It would be good to see in outgoing emails an option fro ZeptoMail.

    They have a API for email transactional email service. But also SMTP.

    I have tried to use the SMTP setup with Cloudron, but got authentication issues.

    But if the Cloudron team can integrate ZeptoMail API email service even better.

    Support

  • Cloudron update to 7.5.1 - Success!
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @girish I tried this after a new server changed to mounts, still had the same issue.

    Just to verify, it was not isolated to the restart after Cloudron upgrade, but any time I restart the server.

    Update:

    I just did a restart again, and it still 10-20 minuets for the app to show, even though it says running.

    Not Responding Error
    screenshot-community.cortexspace.support-2023.08.28-17_26_39.png

    Shows all as running
    screenshot-my.mhgcic.org.uk-2023.08.28-17_26_45.png

    This was from a restart hours after the upgrade and upgrade restart. Just now!

    Discuss feedback updates 7.5.1

  • Version Types - Beta/Stable - Version Numbering
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    It would be great to see;

    • The ability to install beta versions of apps if they are available.
    • The ability to install 1-2 older versions before the lastest version.

    We find from time to time even stable releases can have issues that might prevent apps from not working as they should or performance issues.

    From time to time we will hold off from upgrading to a major release until we test or see that it is clear of issues. Being able to install beta versions can help with this but also help us to train staff on future major releases.

    Not just that it also helps us to know if to hold off using an app until a future release.

    Also maybe in addition the ability to install slightly older versions of an app. This can help with the latest stable versions that may have a big show-stopping bug, this way you can install the version before they fix or patch that version.

    These is just one of the examples that could help people install and test apps.

    Feature Requests

  • Backup before upgrade failing.
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    I have found a work around and maybe confirmation on whats causing the issues.

    I changed these

    screenshot-my.apes-volunteer.net-2024.02.04-07_54_33.png

    The backups still failed.

    I changed from tarball to rsync and it is backing up fine.

    This confirms it has to do with the creation of files via splitting them, and permissions on the server stopping upload to s3 maybe?

    It may take longer for backups to perform for the moment, but I will keep it as rsync for the moment.

    Support backup upgrade error access

  • Social Well Known
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    We have the social app for nextcloud but get this error.

    screenshot-intranet.apes.org.uk-2023.09.07-13_24_29.png

    I have searched on the file manager as cloudron don't have a setting for Nextcloud and I can't find it.

    screenshot-my.apes.org.uk-2023.09.07-13_27_29.png

    Nextcloud nextcloud social well-known

  • Error when installing
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    For the moment we have just changed it to Manual DNS until we can get it sorted as their community is terrible for support.

    PeerTube

  • Social Well Known
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @jdaviescoates said in Social Well Known:

    Yeah, I think perhaps a new setting for Nextcloud well-known needs adding, like we have for Matrix etc already see https://docs.cloudron.io/domains/#well-known-locations

    Hopefully, Cloudron staff @girish can add this.

    Nextcloud nextcloud social well-known

  • Social Well Known
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @girish said in Social Well Known:

    I tested this out quickly. Indeed, the app auto creates an id of the form @nc.domain.com . After domain change, it doesn't adapt. But I don't think this is a bug in the app. Most of the federated apps (even outside nextcloud) cannot change their domain post installation.

    image.png

    I thought the same!

    It seems to be a bit of a bugger that, on the other hand, I located the folder for well-known but nowhere does it show the URL in the files in the well-known folder for the app.

    I have messaged the developer of the app to see if they could put in the description to only install on a URL that will not change or find a way around it but I don't think the developers of federated apps have it high on their priority to make domain name changes possible.

    Nextcloud nextcloud social well-known

  • Chatwoot - authenticating with facebook
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @shivamkb17 said in Chatwoot - authenticating with facebook:

    HI @nebulon , Please Test from your end, Is this facebook app integration is working or not, Many people is facing this similar issue.

    Sorry to but in, but....

    Facebook Developer allows you to create test accounts that you can send Cloudron the information I.E logging email address and password generated in Facebook Developer for them to test without them having to create or giving their Facebook profile out.

    Ref: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/development/build-and-test/test-users/

    Chatwoot

  • Misskey
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    We would also like to see this.

    App Wishlist misskey fediverse

  • cPanel DNS
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @jdaviescoates

    Thanks, and although this has nothing to do with my original post on the integration of cPanel and Cloudron, I will let them know about the spelling mistake.

    Our main non-profit website is a Google website as we have a non-profit account with them. Our services websites are not Google websites. So not entirely sure why this has been brought up in this post.

    Although we are working on our own website the Google one is temp while we are developing it.

    As for the rest of your post yet again not relating to my post about the integration of cPanel and Cloudron DNS for some reason.

    "CICs cannot be charitable."
    screenshot-www.google.com-2023.08.30-04_42_40.png
    screenshot-makeanimpactcic.co.uk-2023.08.30-04_41_44.png

    We choose to be charitable.

    While I was writing this reply I went ahead and fixed the spelling issue.

    screenshot-www.mhgcic.org.uk-2023.08.30-05_00_28.png

    If you also scroll right down to the bottom it already states similar to what you have put about putting "Non-profit Community Interest Community Registered by Companies House and Regulated by the CIC Regulator" but I guess you missed that part. Our CIC number connect direct to companies house.

    screenshot-www.mhgcic.org.uk-2023.08.30-05_00_40.png

    As for Charitable or Charity, there is a fine line and that is why we started this petition,


    Click this link to sign the petition:
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/639971/sponsors/new?token=GjHnoZd6ORRAJIgjebBL

    Our petition:

    Formally recognise CIC's as a non-profit charitable/charity organisation.

    Formally recognise Community Interest Companies (CIC) as a form of non-profit charitable/charity organisation. CIC do a lot of good for the community, individual and even other charities.

    Unless a company or organisation independently sees CIC as a charitable non-profit organisation CIC's get little or no help or support. They can not gain funding or get fundraising from educational institutes and more. This forces a lot of CIC to close, this needs to change and see CIC formations recognised as a charitable non-profit organisation.


    As far as we see it we are asset-locked being a CIC, meaning if we had to close all our assets would be sent to a designated charity of our choosing like the RSPCA & few other charities like suicide prevention etc., and no one profits or recuperates costs from the closure of a CIC we are a charity or charitable organisation.

    We are restricted and regulated so that we are not allowed profits and that all profits get used for the CIC and it's services or pay much-needed staff.

    The only thing stopping the CIC's from formally being seen as a charity is the UK Government. They have never discussed in parliament the good CIC's do or the important work they do, they do not provide support or help and it needs to change. This is why organisations like

    • Google
    • Microsoft
    • Canva
    • Digital Ocean
    • and so many more organisations let CIC get free or discounted services via their NON-Profit Programs.

    This is because these companies see that CIC's do the exact same work as a charity registered on Charity Commissions and get nothing, they are also forced to lock assets and have restrictions on profits, so why can't they be called a non-profit charity?

    Our argument is when you see our charity and charities like Mind, Pypirus, RSPCA or similar what is the difference?

    Answer: None! We do the same work and provide the same free services.

    So I think you will find most people nowadays understand that there are many forms of charities and charitable organisations and why CIC's should be included in this.

    Also, you do not know our plans but here is a sneak peek for the future...

    Can a charity have a subsidiary which is a community interest
    company?

    Yes. A charity may set up a CIC subsidiary company. For example, a charity could set-up
    a CIC subsidiary company to run a charity shop and pass some or ALL of the profits to the
    charity that owns it.

    Once we have enough profits to take on a community centre we will be opening one to benefit people in person as well as online, and you need to have an annual income is over £5,000 or if you set up a charity. So once we have that all in place we will be registering to get a full Charity Status.

    Once we have full charity status with a CIC that can provide the charity with all its financial needs we will also add our charity number to the website.

    But these things take time, and to be honest, your reply is completely unrelated to our OP, seems petty, derogatory, and belittling of the work we do, and don't understand what you are trying to accomplish with your reply to a post about DNS and cPanel. Maybe you could have private messaged us?

    We work hard every day for people and for animals.

    But if you have a real issue with our wording on our website, spelling mistakes or the fact one of our many websites is run by Google Sites, by all means, complain to https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/office-of-the-regulator-of-community-interest-companies/about/complaints-procedure we have had a few that have tried to belittle the good work we try to do and nothing has come from it.

    Feature Requests cpanel dns integration

  • Zoho ZeptoMail
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @JLX89 said in Zoho ZeptoMail:

    I've been using Zeptomail for over a year. I originally had some issues, but if you let me know what error you're getting I can help out.

    I'm not in front of the computer at the moment, but I can try and post a step-by-step.

    Thanks, but seems to be working fine now. I think it was their verification process. I started using zeptomail when it first came out but was very unstable.

    Now works well, we have been using it up till now elasticmail. However, we found that too much abuse from robots signing people up to our mailing list caused issues with being reported as spam, now we have moved our newsletters to zoho campaigns and transactional emails to Zeptomail.

    Support

  • Misskey
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    I would love to, but I need 1 reputation to do that or I can not.

    screenshot-forum.cloudron.io-2023.07.31-09_58_10.png

    Then there is this light annoyance

    screenshot-forum.cloudron.io-2023.07.31-09_59_13.png

    I understand it is probably to stop spam and stuff but, still tat annoying.

    App Wishlist misskey fediverse

  • cPanel DNS
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    @micmc Thank you Andy, I will bring it up at the next meeting. Do you mind if we follow you and message you directly once we have had the meeting?

    Feature Requests cpanel dns integration

  • Backup before upgrade failing.
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    We are getting this error when trying to backup before the upgrade.

    Jan 31 00:23:27box:storage/s3 copy: s3 copy error when copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz: AccessDenied: null
    Jan 31 00:23:27box:tasks update 1695: {"percent":44.75,"message":"Copied 1 files with error: BoxError: Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null"}
    Jan 31 00:23:27box:tasks setCompleted - 1695: {"result":null,"error":{"stack":"BoxError: Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null\n at done (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:338:48)\n at Response.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:414:71)\n at Request.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:367:18)\n at Request.callListeners (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/sequential_executor.js:106:20)\n at Request.emit (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/sequential_executor.js:78:10)\n at Request.emit (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:686:14)\n at Request.transition (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:22:10)\n at AcceptorStateMachine.runTo (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/state_machine.js:14:12)\n at /home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/state_machine.js:26:10\n at Request.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:38:9)","name":"BoxError","reason":"External Error","details":{},"message":"Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null"}}
    Jan 31 00:23:27box:tasks update 1695: {"percent":100,"result":null,"error":{"stack":"BoxError: Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null\n at done (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:338:48)\n at Response.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/src/storage/s3.js:414:71)\n at Request.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:367:18)\n at Request.callListeners (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/sequential_executor.js:106:20)\n at Request.emit (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/sequential_executor.js:78:10)\n at Request.emit (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:686:14)\n at Request.transition (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:22:10)\n at AcceptorStateMachine.runTo (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/state_machine.js:14:12)\n at /home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/state_machine.js:26:10\n at Request.<anonymous> (/home/yellowtent/box/node_modules/aws-sdk/lib/request.js:38:9)","name":"BoxError","reason":"External Error","details":{},"message":"Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null"}}
    Jan 31 00:23:27box:taskworker Task took 1405.247 seconds
    Error copying snapshot/app_717035b5-ff81-4367-b920-d0619a532992.tar.gz (24578670468 bytes): AccessDenied AccessDenied: null
    

    Any ideas?

    Support backup upgrade error access

  • Revolt - open source and privacy-friendly Discord alternative
    mhgcicM mhgcic

    We would love this addition.

    App Wishlist
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