Posts made by micmc

@Mastadamus
Sounds great, will take a closer look then thanks a lot mate.

@Mastadamus Sounds enough amazing to me, and with @robi 's suggestion that would even be greater, now wouldn't a script in the like be possible for Apache as well?

I mean I run wp plugin on my wp sites that detects all 404 like I've never seen before and many of them are obviously scans trying to find ways to attein some presumably installed backend scripts or even the .env file in directly in documentroot. When I discovered that is where I thought that something in the like of what you described here above, would be very useful.

@girish And I'm about to come with more, though I like also the ideas mentioned here by @nothing .
White labeling could also be desirable for enterprises providing managed services using Cloudron technology who would prefer to hide their secret weapon from competitors. Especially as Cloudron has very unique features making the whole process so easy to manage compare to anything I've seen yet.

@salturki You cannot run other apps on the server in parallel to Cloudron once it is installed. So, that means if you want to run Django you need to do so from another server.

@girish said in XBackBone - instant sharing tool:

Nice post on this - https://noted.lol/xbackbone-and-sharex-a-self-hosted-lightshot-alternative/

Sounds a bit like one can operate its own 'mega.nz' like service. That's a pretty cool and useful app.

@mdreira said in Mautic Plugins:

Hi again @girish,

I didn't know whether to continue this thread or open another, but since my question is completely related, I thought I'd better stay on this thread.

I'm having trouble creating plugins for mautic (in cloudron), because not all the original files of a Mautic installation can be accessed because Cloudron only shows part of the structure.

As with Wordpress dev, there are times when I need a plugin to modify something in other files that do not appear in the file structure that the package shows.

Is there anything we can do to get the whole structure to show up?

Thank you!

I see a bit of where you where you may want to go, and as you know now from @girish the files you would want to modify in the Mautic structure cannot be edited on Cloudron platform, so with that said I do not know exactly what you want to accomplish but FYI there exists WordPress plugins like for example WP Mautic which doesn't require you to modify any source code to insert tracking codes.

• You don’t have to edit source code of your template to insert tracking code.
• Plugin adds additional information to tracking image URL so you get better results than using just plain HTML code of tracking image.
• You can use Mautic form embed with shortcode described below.
• You can choose where the script is injected (header / footer).
• Tracking image can be used as fallback when JavaScript is disabled.

And much more see: https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mautic/
Source code is available here: https://github.com/mautic/mautic-wordpress
There are a few more that could be used fir deeper integration: https://wordpress.org/plugins/tags/mautic/
Much more about Mautic integration: https://innotiom.com/mautic-plugins/
There even is a guide for non-developer: https://innotiom.com/mautic-wordpress/

Hope that helps a little.

@Mike-0 said in SSH Access Issue folder:

Sorry hhen Cloudron is the last garbage for me.

Yeah, sure, so nobody's forcing you to use it yah know!

@humptydumpty said in Contabo: New UK Region:

@doodlemania2 I know OVH Cloud has unlimited bandwidth. The connection speed increases with each higher plan.

On the other hand, personally OVH is among the last places I would use to host anything.

@Trankery said in WHMCS - LAMP - IonCube Not detected:

... with Cloudron, ... uploaded WHMCS and am trying to set it up. I'm getting the following error:

Installing this on Cloudron is a sin, you will burn in hell. As you can see Cloudron does not like it...

@fbartels said in What do you do?:

@micmc I would recommend to remove the spammers message and link from your post

@d19dotca Yes, and in such case, the way you want to implement it would be just perfect. Personally, I'm running an Email Marketing App SaaS which has exactly such feature, and moreover when I impersonate a user while being that user and seeing the account as it, there's sticky top bar with a warning that we're impersonating a user with a button to click and go back to admin. All hassle free as you suggest. Yeah.

@nebulon LOL thanks I've a f.... good eye for those...

@d19dotca Ahhh I see, yeah that's an excellent idea then.

@Neeljy said in What do you do?:

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Are you a Cloudron user or someone just 'advertising' the course?

@girish said in PHP version change, like the LAMP app?:

This should be possible. What's the use case though? WP is not fully compatible with PHP 8 or 8.1 at this point.

However WP 6 is rolling out right now, I haven't checked yet, but I guess it should be fully compatible now... we've yet to see...

@d19dotca Could be useful, but you could also use another browser or another local machine on your LAN and login as such said user to see it.

@marcusquinn This might have a clean code

@manngobaum Hello, is the directory you want to add, created and writable?

@marcusquinn said in Why Cloudron's Docker only? How about VM containers with generic Docker Compose scripts?s?:

@micmc Nice! I've not seen that one before, might fire up an instance to explore. Also reminds me of Firefox Containers with the multi-coloured window frames.

Cool, Let us know more. I was about to try it on a local machine.

@robi said in Why Cloudron's Docker only? How about VM containers with generic Docker Compose scripts?s?:

@timconsidine said in Why Cloudron's Docker only? How about VM containers with generic Docker Compose scripts?s?:

@robi I just noticed this while exploring

https://www.docker.com/blog/docker-advances-container-isolation-and-workloads-with-acquisition-of-nestybox/

Any thoughts on impact / future ?

This further solidifies the sysbox ideas, implementation and product as a key part of Dockers mission.

I was going to point it out and let you know, and boom. Yes, and this system sounds much more as a solution and clarifies what was intended and proposed by Marcus @marcusquinn to address the actual concern to being able to run certain apps that potentially could 'never' run under Cloudron because of its own infrastructure.

The sysbox reminds me of the Qubes OS which is also recommended (E. Snowden) as the most secure desktop OS today because it runs every app in its own container.

@timconsidine Yes, as mentioned by @humptydumpty and maybe start with, what tools do I need to have ready, and we should get our feet wet with in some cases, before starting, which are going to be in use during the whole process.

• Cloudron CLI of course, what else?
• A docker registry?
• A GIT server?
• A VPS with docker installed?
• A Docker desktop version? (as well as the previous?)
• How are they connected?
• Etc

Maybe also an example of how one is (or should be) set up?

Thanks for the offer mate!

@luckow said in Why Cloudron's Docker only? How about VM containers with generic Docker Compose scripts?s?:

Oh nerds. A lot of technical thoughts

Maybe we should create a new forum category "cool new kids" where we can showcase new apps we've heard about. From there, we can invest some time (as a community) to find out if the app is worth investing time to package as a business critical app (aka Cloudron app)

That's a good idea and maybe that would help put aside not only the "cool new kid" to take a look at, but also that 10th RSS reader which the new Cloudron user who just comes in, wish to have on his Cloudron because it's the one he knows and prefer. Indeed, we don't need 5 packs of each good apps out there so then we should concentrate on getting at least one good app, preferably the best one available, for each of the category we'd consider an asset to put on Cloudron that would enhance the offer.

@d19dotca said in Why Cloudron's Docker only? How about VM containers with generic Docker Compose scripts?s?:

So I'd like to propose one aspect of a possible solution... eventually divert some resources into coming up with a neat playground / well documented area for how to package apps and even a few example walkthroughs

I know it'd help me at least and presumably others. I know some of the steps are documented and there's some template apps to work off of, but I think it could still be made easier by having some detailed walkthrough guides with popular examples.:-)

That way more people could contribute easier to the app packaging process to fit Docker-ized apps inside of Cloudron's ecosystem.

I agree, from there I'd certainly contribute to package apps myself too. It's the same thing for me, the lack of time to dig deeper to figure this out with little information. I've been administrating and managing web server for 2 decades, and started to master docker and cloud technologies on top of that about 5 years back, and I'm always on the fence of getting onto try to package apps for Cloudron, however for the same reasons mentioned, when I try to get onto it then too much question pop and I've to postpone the try because of lack of time to play to figure it all.

@kallados said in Tooljet - Build and Deploy Internal Tools:

Oje next one... Where is the benefit to loose Time with "few same tools"? Sorry. N8N work great. More different Apps are helpful, and not just put next one and next one and next... and all time the same App.

Not too sure of what you complain about, this app has nothing to do with N8n if you look carefully.

Here's an example on how to build an app for exploring and uploading files on S3.

https://blog.tooljet.com/building-an-app-to-view-and-upload-files-in-aws-s3-bucket/

@jdaviescoates said in What RTMP Ports to use if I want to use both PeerTube and Owncast?:

@girish OK thanks, but I'm guessing there is some reason why they both default to Port 1935? is that the standard expected port for such things? I wonder if I'll hit any issues if I don't use that port...

The only issue would be if your streaming software cannot stream on any other ports, which is very unlikely. Simply set an entry for Owncast and one for PeerTube using the two different ports you set on your Cloudron.

@robi I seems to be built with only about 5% php, it's mainly built in JavaScript.

I doubt very much this would install and run on LAMP nor even on LEMP, the installation is done through CLI and requires to install Node, Npm, PM2, Nodemon, MySQL, and MongoDB.

I believe that should be ported to docker first, before it could be installed on Cloudron.

@alexdimarco said in Does cloudron block bogon networks?:

One of the wifi networks (I do not have control over) uses bogon IP space for addressing. When connected to this network I cannot access any Cloudron servers. Do they block bogon? If so, how can I white list a network - in specific 100.64.0.0/10?

Cloudron blocks nothing by default.

@humptydumpty Contabo offer an excellent service, however their drawback is they're charging a SETUP fee for each VPSs and prices based on monthly instead on hourly, which makes their offer much less interesting for developers.

They sill have very good prices for quality, but how many time we need to test something or whatever and for such we do quickly fire up a VPS, sometimes it's just a few days, weeks or even just a few hours, then throw it away and you're charged just for the use.

Here too it depends on what you do online.

@nebulon AMAZING!

@Benoit said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

It could be a manageable app store by the super admin of the cloudron. He could hide the default app store for non technical clients and choose what apps need to be accessible with a customization on the description of these apps. it could be an interface with toggle buttons to activate or deactivate some apps. And you can choose the text you want to show for each app activated. the process to install would be the same. Be careful for me in the back, it is the same app store but it is the front what is different and more compatible with newbies and non tech users.

Certainly, this is another way of seeing and doing things to accomplish this, and it's great ideas as well. That's the reason for such forum and how genius software are created. We have here a crowd of people with amazing backgrounds of all sorts and it's the main reason we've a rich community.

it is a big improvement but it does not seem impossible to do for super @girish ;). Perhaps i don't see all the difficulties it could engage.
Anyway it could be a more comprehensible interface to help the onboarding of new users.

Ah, you're conscious all is possible with @girish right?

@marcusquinn said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

I loath per-user charges for anything - it is an artificially unnecessary restriction. Far better to charge for resources. I'd actively go out of my way to circumvent any per-user licensing restrictions, including promoting competitive alternatives without it.

It's NOT what we are discussing here and resources or scaling as been touched also part of the idea.

@scooke said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

Mattermost to TChat, Peertube to Video, Polr to Colibris.Link, and Scrumblr to Post-It. I don't know why they do this; I would think that promoting the use of open source and self-hosted software would gain even more credence by using the well-known name of well-used software.

All your points are good of course. Now, whatever is their reason to do so, at first look they're clearly reflecting the concern addressed by @Benoit because it all depends on your target market may I say it again.

Outside of Internet technologies world, among the people out there, very few who know the biiib about Mattermost, Jitsi, or even Nextcloud and it's a fact. So, when we think about it "packaging" could also help to address the problem for both world. And that all depends on HOW you present the "product" to your target market.

Example:
With package One you can easily publish a website without coding, communicate directly to all visitors though an instant chat device on your site, access all statistics you need to tweak your marketing, and create unlimited email boxes with IMAP, POP3, and SMTP.

You get:

• list your
• apps
• for package one
• with REAL app name

Again, imagination is the limit.

@Benoit said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

Hi,

it could be interesting to have the possibility to present the apps with our words in the app store and not in technical words. Some clients we have doesn't understand what the apps do before they have our point of view and explanations about it. we are trying to democratize the use of open source apps and for that we have to get out of technical jargon. It would be amazing et we could adapt the app store app description and hide to complicated apps for example. Sorry for my english, I hope to be understandable.

Benoit

Quite understandable for sure and I really get your point because providing more generic, or more wide publicly understandable, names for the app with meaning. Believe me I hear you because that would be of help for some of my target market.

And we're back to what I keep saying, some feature can be from fantastic for one and an horrible idea for another, because points lifted by @scooke here below are as quite good and legitimate too.

I'm part of both world, yeah the people side who are now forced somewhat to live with technology and learn to take advantage of it, and the techies world who develops, installs, integrates, manages, and maintains all this for the people.

One thing's for sure is Cloudron is built by and for the second "world" I talk about, and as such changing the name of the apps in the apps-store would be totally out of the question for me.

However, we could certainly find a way to satisfy needs of all.

What pops my mind quickly is there could be a chart presented to the client somewhere that could provide instant understanding of the app is or what it does, so the client can lookup from what he wants to do, and be presented with the available apps he can use for such specific task. For example, there's the Category list from the drop-down menu at the top of the app store, may be something that could be rethought?

@scooke said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

Could the same idea/process be adapted for a Superadmin to "categorize" Cloudron App Store apps, making only certain ones visible to the next level Admin. Come to think of it, a Reseller account on MXRoute allows the Superadmin to do exactly this - create a Package, name it, define it's parameters, and allow the Customer the option to choose from the prepared Packages.

Sort of. That resemble the analogy with WHM - Cpanel I use to explain the idea in my OP here.

@luckow said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

To me, it sounds like ansible could be a solution.

Absolutely! My initial idea was to maybe perform some custom script, a standard of course, that would be somehow triggered while you register the new instance from your cloudron.io account. However, Ansible could also be used to accomplish after the instance is installed and could also be used to upgrade the package for the clients from the provider/MSP's side through CLI. Before or after you'd performed the installation, that would be something yet to consider.

Maybe one day, you are able to buy a subscription upfront and add it to your ansible-playbook (the installation process).

Why not.

@girish said in Create app "packages" for 'managed' cloudrons:

@micmc The idea to create bundles is interesting. Do you (or anyone) have experience with software we should integrate with that makes this possible ?

I was not referring to something that much elaborated as integrating another software or piece of code into Cloudron to accomplish this. On the other hand, depending on how you see the "packaging" idea from your side it's not excluded that something could exist. There are many ways to accomplish one thing in software.

I am not sure if we want to implement this system ourselves. It's best to integrate with something else that can create bundles, manage your customers, payments etc. And cloudron can integrate with it by exposing the necessary APIs.

Now this is where you should be a little more explicit with what you have in mind regarding this idea. Of course if we get onto the API transactions side, now something else could be imagined and elaborated I can see what you mean. And, yes maybe it could be through the use of another software.

Would a CRM be something you had in mind to accomplish that?

I was more referring for the moment to something in the like of creating kind of a custom installation providing access to only what's described in the package offer through a yml file for example. But after that, as @luckow brought up down below, there should be also a way to implement some sort of limitation as well.
For example:

appstore:
  noaccess:
   - io.wekan.cloudronapp
   - io.cloudron.openvpn
   - etc.
  yesaccess:
   - org.wordpress.cloudronapp: {5}
   - com.nextcloud.cloudronapp: {1}
   - etc. {}

Sort of. Of course that means that all the apps in the package will not be installed. Rather they will only be available, or not, and limited.

As it was brought up as well, "Users" is something else, yep. And, well, afterthought that might not be that important after all in terms of packaging. Because if the amount of users is unlimited with any package, that should still somehow help to get the client to scale up its package with an increasing amount of users.

And yes, that would also means that any 'managed' Cloudron package would come with unlimited email accounts, an then yet another way to increase the need to scale its needs.

@jimcavoli said in OpenSlides - digital motion and assembly system:

@girish I’m still around - I can pick this back up in the next week or two

Be my guest!

@girish so the idea of leaving this feature as optional to the initial owner/installer of the instance opens the possibility to either deliver full Cloudron to certain clients AND "managed" Cloudron, thus the idea in my title, to some other client types. all depending on one's business model and target market.

@girish said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

@micmc said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

And I guess, that is what would or should happen if we choose to hide the owner. I haven't thought really about this one but yeah, well thought and that should the be case also indeed, the superuser would not be seen in apps as well.

We had this idea of creating a "service account" - https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box/-/issues/771 (which is scheduled for 7.3). I think this will get you this feature.

This is how we see how great minds encounter!

Also, there's the discussion about the "email admin" role to which your issue above refers too as well, which several of us have followed as well, which have popped several ideas and views as well and has brought to the creation of such feature.

@scooke That's excellent examples of ways to use the already existing power of CR, and it shows that it's incredibly flexible, and that there are many ways to do things depending on the application you want to use it for.

When I say imagination is the limit. I totally mean it.

@jdaviescoates said in Shared Authentication between Apps:

I'd still love a simple way to allow for Open Registration on my Cloudron:

https://forum.cloudron.io/post/5339

I agree that would be great also.

@jdaviescoates said in Shared Authentication between Apps:

@micmc said in Shared Authentication between Apps:

Unless there exist a way to bulk register users on a CR instance.

You can import users, see:
https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#import-users

Also relevant to this thread:
https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#external-directory

There you go, thanks that's great!

To add to the idea as well, with this we should also be able as superadmin to brand a part of the footer where the admin could not remove nor change the content of this part.

The best and easiest way to do this, imho, would be half and half, so, for example the owner can brand the left side with its product with a link or two to its customer service or anything else. While admin can customize the top of the page logo and name, as well as its part the right side of the footer.

Moreover, eventually there could even be more functions that could be added for the use of superadmin to get even more flexibility. A quick idea would be to be able to create "packages" of apps available at different prices that could also be great for different needs and target markets.

For example, for example two or three types of packages for business at three different prices.
Like
Business one package for $x/m

• 50 users with as much IMAP, POP, SMTP accounts
• WordPress 5 sites
• Matomo 1 instance
• Chatwoot 1 instance
• Rainloop and SOGo

Business package two for $xx/m

• 200 users with as much IMAP, POP, SMTP accounts
• 20 WordPress sites
• Matomo 1 instance
• Chatwoot 5 instances
• RocketChat 1 instance
• NextCloud 1 instance
• Discourse 1 instance

ETC. see the point? I can be any mix-and-match you like depending on your market and even imagination of you want to reach new ones.

There could be a package for Families, for Teachers, for Coaches, for Communities, for Remote Working Teams etc. etc. you name it.

That can be limited only by imagination as there's possibilities to no end.

Anyone else can see how great can that be?

@girish said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

@jdaviescoates said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

What am I missing? Why/ what benefit do you get from hiding the "Owner"?

Maybe he means to hide the owner from inside apps and not in the Cloudron User listing as such? For example, may not want it to appear inside nextcloud when a user is trying to share a document and the owner name appears in auto-complete.

And I guess, that is what would or should happen if we choose to hide the owner. I haven't thought really about this one but yeah, well thought and that should the be case also indeed, the superuser would not be seen in apps as well.

@jdaviescoates said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

@girish in which case I'd just use a brand or business name for the Owner name and a generic email

That's what can be done already and that might be good for you and your target market, and that's fine. That's why also it should be then optional to hide or not the "superadmin" on the CR instance.

We should also keep in mind the CR "admin" "owner" can also use its own instance as an MSP itself very easily so that market can be very HUGE if one knows how to do marketing online.

@jdaviescoates said in Hiding superadmin to deliver 'managed' cloudron to clients.:

You don't actually need to hide the superadmin (Owner in Cloudron-speak) to do that though, do you?

I mean, what's stopping you doing that anyway? You/ the MSP (whatever that is?) be the Cloudron Owner, the client is the Admin.

What am I missing? Why/ what benefit do you get from hiding the "Owner"?

More on Cloudron roles here:
https://docs.cloudron.io/user-management/#roles

You have missed my point, that is what you are missing . I'm not asking how the roles work, nor if I can or cannot do that. I perfectly know that it can be done, and whether we can hide or not the superadmin - "owner", all I'm asking is for a feature loll

I guess, we're not all from the same background nor all MSP or Hosting provider, or whatever. One thing I know is I'm in the hosting industry and consulting and marketing online for more than 20 years and things like cpanel did not even exists when I owned and managed my first hosting servers. And as such, in this field there are MANY different markets and as much different approach to reach them with all kinds of offers.

Hiding the superuser is not an absolute, I think it would even be better if we have the choice, as provider, to hide it or not so the most can be happy. But, for the main market I target that would be a great feature as in, it would be better.

For comparison, or analogy, when I started to use cpanel to manage hosting servers for clients, installing this on a dedicated to serve cpanel to clients the top layer to full control over all clients is web host manager (WHM) and there was no layer above this. Through WHM we're creating cPanel accounts for clients so they have full control over their own hosting needs, however clients did not know, let alone see, that there was a WHM layer above its cpanel account and there's good reasons for that and one of them is I would not feel in full control and owning if I managed my server and apps and etc. while constantly viewer a "superadmin" (who is this?...) above me on my server. What I suggest is no more nor less than acting and seeing "superadmin" a bit as WHM and admin as cPanel user. It's an example to show the idea as they're not much comparable in reality. And through WHM we were also able to help and provide higher level support to cpanel clients all transparently.

Most of the technical details the business end user client don't bother nor even want to hear about, but having full control, security and privacy are very strong point of sale in most of my target audience. Hence, having the impression of being at the top of everything is very important for them.

Hope that helps better understand the idea.

@murgero said in Shared Authentication between Apps:

@briankb-0 Cloudron uses SSO (kind of, with LDAP) and the apps you listed should all be able to use that authentication. LDAP is shared on all apps that support it.,

Yes, indeed, however in such case all these users must be registered in the actual Cloudron instance first, and that could become nightmarish depending on the amount of users to be registered. Unless there exist a way to bulk register users on a CR instance.

With the "superadmin" feature now part of CR features, it would be great if the "superadmin" user would be hidden from all other users, including any "admin" user.

Why?

That would allow MSPs to create CR instances and register oneself as the "superadmin", then create an admin account in CR to deliver the client as turnkey solution with fully installed CR with its domain name, hassle free ready to start to operate for less techie or much busy clients.

I believe that would open many possibilities that were not thought before as also the new cloudron.io's instance registration flow UI allows one to register multiple instances under one account now.

Thoughts and other ideas and suggestions are pretty much welcome.

@girish said in Wagtail CMS:

Anyone have experience with this? Is this a WYSIWYG style CMS or something for developers ?

No, but it looks to be an amazing piece of real CMS when you look deeper into it.

Built in python with Django framework, it's created for developer AND designer AND publisher. Seems to have the greatest flexibility one can have with some great features I haven't seen anywhere else on the CMS side.

It also has an impressive array of packages available, which can be used to produce great websites limited only by your imagination. For example, you can embed PeerTube, create e-commerce, proceed with SEO and marketing, and even start a newsletter, and much more.

If you're looking to add a serious additional CMS on top of what's already on CR that sounds like a winner.

@timconsidine said in Cloudron CLI : warning on update:

@nebulon no rush, no problem

Try I too get the same thing, but then try 'npm audit' you should see "found 0 vulnerabilities".

@LoudLemur said in Owncast port 1935 with OBS:

That is a fantastic amount of RAM. How does having so much memory help the instance?

Are you serious? For over 30 years being in IT industry I've always been reminded from everywhere we look, the more RAM you can afford the better performance you will always get from a rig. No? I think so

I understand your question though, and if the instance was only for PeerTube this is something we might need to measure (which I have not really) to answer your question right now, however this is a CR instance and as such there are other apps that are running on it as well.

Now, you should know that apps with dependencies that are loading in RAM to run are much faster than if it has to solicit the swap file, or at worst the HD to execute and deliver a request to the client.

Hope that helps.

@robi said in Jitsi session recording:

@micmc said in Jitsi session recording:

@robi

I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

Yep, and there's one for all taste apparently
https://desktop.jitsi.org/index.html

That's not what you think it is.

It's actually a completely separate SIP client, nothing to do with Jitsi Meet.

And quite outdated: https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Features.html

You're right it's not what I thought, and verily has nothing to do at all with Jitsi Meet at closer look.

Unfortunate branding/naming.

Yeah, wtf ??? lol

@humptydumpty said in Using the same domain across multiple Cloudrons:

@micmc since someone on this forum pointed out once that CF is involved in censorship, I'd rather avoid them if given the chance. My main reason though is that I try to avoid using any services from big tech (google, fb, etc.). DO went public a while back which caused me to switch to another host but I'm looking to move from manual to automated DNS and DO is my only viable option atm.

I fully understand and agree, I did not know about CF and I'm using it forever (*&$(?(%. I guess it's going to be more and more difficult to avoid to avoid the bast...

@girish @humptydumpty said in Using the same domain across multiple Cloudrons:

Can I use DigitalOcean DNS for free even if I don't have any active services with them?

Yes, it seems. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/does-using-digitalocean-domain-name-servers-cost-extra-money

One can also use the amazing Cloudflare service free tier too, it includes DNS and much, much more. One of the features is to get and transfer domain names as COST price. But basic CDN and stats are also included in the free plan.

Well, all that being said, finally when you think about that, it's very feasible to use OBS to record the meeting session from one's desktop whether using jitsi desktop or jitsi meet through browser.

Yes. Simply add the meeting session as a component of your OBS presentation and poom! you start recording in OBS. Done.

On the other hand, it might more difficult to accomplish from a mobile session and that is where jibri would comes in I guess.

@robi

I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

Yep, and there's one for all taste apparently
https://desktop.jitsi.org/index.html

@robi said in Jitsi session recording:

@nebulon so it might be better to use a screencast recording type of local sw while doing a jisti call than a server based jibri thing.

Is there a desktop version of jibri where the UI & libs are already there?

This is how zoom works. That should be the best way I think I saw there's a desktop version of jitsi I'm gonna check on this as well.

@nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:

... we have to install X11 libraries and even audio libs within the app ... More info here in the Readme

Yeah went to check deeper after I posted this and saw that this looks more complicated than said.

I kinda prefer to support the jibri option, where one can add jibri instances externally (or maybe also as cloudron app instances)

If I hear you correctly that means we'd need a jibri server installed besides the jitsi install.
I mean, I also went to explore for the config.js option and there's a section to configure the jibri server indeed.
So this is something to be tested positively, I'll try shortly and report.

Jibri also is only built against Ubuntu 18.04 it seems.

Just like the BBB server, of least the last time I installed one.

@nebulon said in Jitsi session recording:

@timconsidine yes, as far as I understand this requires the jibri component, which is not installed or configured within the app package yet.

Is this something that's planned to be done, or is this a module we can install ourselves, I think the recording module for some specific meetings is something very important.
Thanks