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@LoudLemur Yeah AnythingLLM is amazing, I believe much cleaner and intuitive than Open WebUI.

One can install it online as well via Coolify or EasyPanel and it's quite impressive out of the box too.

Thanks for sharing this summary.

@marcusquinn Wow that's great stuff man thanks for sharing.
Release 2.13.0 already, why have you waited so long to share it you don't seem to be the shy kind?

This is a desktop app: "100% Offline & Private" looks great and a nice find to share though

YES: one can run docker on desktop btw...

Wow, that's sounds impressive and useful, however shame on them-seriously-for NOT creating an Linux version in 2025, and moreover while this user base is exploding... Where is this "server" supposed to be hosted exactly, if not on Linux?

Moreover, you see, while crying out for ID "protection", to get to "comm web" we STILL need to somehow be IDentified by either G, A, or M, just among the 3 WORST privacy violators, cause we can only scan a QR code to DOWNLOAD the an APP ON MY PHONE to access the server ??? What a BS, sorry...
... a pretty weird approach imho

@Divemasterza said in Anyone successfully installed a fileserver MCP?:

I implemented this solutions - https://github.com/GlisseManTV/MCPO-File-Generation-Tool

works like a charm!

Huh, at first look I think this looks like some brilliant solution implementation, wow.
Nice work mate.

I'm working on something that should be set in a couple of weeks from now.

I've been much talking in this forum about some features that should be added to Cloudron to make it easier and functional for MSPs to use Cloudron to provide services for at least 5 years. I'd a lot of ideas to provide this service at scale, however there has been interest but in reality, very few moves to that route (this is not a complaint) I guess it's a matter of priority in development.

So, I'd to refine my ideas to make the offer more of the conceptual type. I'll be using the Technology Courses teaching approach, in AI and Automation mainly, targetting "indie hackers" for a start, but projecting several more target markets, using the same approach.

This is how I started to develop the idea at first, with the PaaS/SaaS approach.
REVOLUCloud.com the form on the page is not yet active, but once one subscribes it gets redirected to REVOLU.Cloud where the idea of the service and all its possibilities is more developed.

This is not necessarely dead per say, but like I said I'm using a new approach now. I cannot say much for the moment, but anyone having an interest with my new approach just hit me and I'll let you know more when ready.

@mononym said in List of apps working with LAMP ?:

Does it make sense to put together a list of apps which can be installed with the LAMP

Theoretically and technically speaking any PHP / MySQL app will install and work quite well on LAMP instances. It's pretty well done and thus very easy to install PHP apps and even HTML/CSS/JavaScript. Though what's missing on Cloudron right now, I believe, is to be able to run Node.JS instances.

So, making a "list" of what WE have tested and tried that work well on LAMP is quite interesting, however starting to list all apps that could or would run on Cloudron is getting onto an exhausting task, and list of apps to no end...

For my part, I've installed and it runs well on LAMP SEOPanel that could be added to that list.

Cheers!

@mononym said in Kan.bn - The open source alternative to Trello:

Main Page: https://kan.bn/

Cool, we also have Kanboard on Cloudron how is it comaparable?

@Bushido said in PSA regarding Mattermost v10+:

Why not Matrix?

Well, that's very good question. And, thanks you for your insights in this matter.

According to this information you share about Matrix, I would guess the answer to your question is simply because of lack of knowledge about its features at first glance.

There's a lot of apps and it's sometimes hard to remember all that one can do above knowing it's a "federated communication platform" as I would have said if you asked me what is Matrix a few minutes before I read your post. So, again thank you, because this is how we often discover great solutions we had under the nose.

That entice me to revisit Matrix as I'd never had the occasion to do so. The main important point you put in evidence is the OPENNESS of the platform which nowadays has become very important, more than never.

Nevertheless, I believe also that Cloudron has it's own way of BEING OPEN and as such, and I was going to like as well, I think we should still ADD ZULIP, as @robi suggested because it's an excellent platform. This platform would still be useful for many and, well its due a long ago on Cloudron as well.

TTYL

@imc67 said in When Cloudron updates the WordPress app, would it reinstall an enable SMTP Mailer?:

I agree with @micmc ’s option 2: default plugin for Developer version

Especially because of their promise: Most importantly, this plugin is free and will always be free.
Read why it’s 100% free (always)

YES! Indeed, the thing I'd forgot to mention yes. Not just the best but free as well yes. Looking forward ...

@james said in When Cloudron updates the WordPress app, would it reinstall an enable SMTP Mailer?:

Can this topic be marked as solved, or is assistance required?

Well, it is NOT "solved" so why mark it as such?
This is a serious concern and I wonder why it hasn't been taken more seriously. For example I've asked TWO simple questions which have remained ignored... Are we trying to find a solution for the BETTER of everyone or leave this GLITCH going on?

Please leave this live thank you.
Maybe you can help to have the following answered:
After reading all this thread, been thinking a few insights that might not be perfect but quite convenient.

1. Would it be possible to simply have the developer version installed WITHOUT any SMTP settings?
   That would still deliver the credentials.txt for SMTP just like with LAMP, that the developer would use to connect ANY preferred SMTP provider, just like it's done with LAMP?
   Personally, I've always did that myself and would believe it is something perfectly acceptable for a DEVELOPER version.

2. Maybe for a simple solution, why not simply consider FluentSMTP instead of the actual plugin?
   Why not?
   This is the ABSOLUTE best SMTP plugin for WordPress that can be found.

as @marcusquinn said I too believe there would be a better way...

@shrey said in PSA regarding Mattermost v10+:

Latest info regarding the OP:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mattermost/s/H1p0lcoHKF

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TL;DR Seems like Mattermost self-hosted version might not be free anymore.

Any recommendations for a comparable FOSS alternative, preferably Cloudron-friendly?

Truth is their offers have become very much confusing, and well they seems to be confused too as far as the licensing they propose now as cloud AND self-hosted seems to have the exact same price as 10/m/user for the "professional" version paid for a year in advance (?).

I believe this is quite tight for a small startup that would 'eventually' scale, nonetheless one can still use it for free with a fair amount of good features (I've just installed an instance and was evaluating it actually). But--as I explained in another thread about FOSS recently--this is NOT really what we know as REAL FOSS anymore, as the free version, whether Team or Enterprise (this is confused AND confusing as well), is crippled of functions and thus imho constitute more a SHAREWARE than a FOSS as we know it.

On another note, why bother self-hosting it if their price per seat is the same as their cloud offer? (wtf? loll amazing... )

I hate Talk as it's not even comparable imho, however Rocket Chat is more likely though I haven't checked them for a few years. Will take a look back for sure.

@marcusquinn said in ActivePieces - nocode alternative to Zapier, Make, n8n etc:

@canadaduane Oh, yeah, not really in the spirit of open-source.

Interestingly, Hugging Face seems to be making a killing from all they give away for free, all from the enterprise support gigs, so it's definitely possible to be profitable with a give-away model, but you do have to have a path for Enterprise to pay more.

The FOSS market has changed so much in the last 10 years, newer developers are more in a hurry to make cash, and so they market crippled versions of their software and call it "free open source". Yeah, right...

That's not free open source software, that's called "shareware" an OLD software model of the 1990s and I do not know if any of those shareware whom have become successful with this model, there might be a few exceptions though. On the other many of the real FOSS developers have become pretty much successful and RICH as well.

Too bad, these younger dogs will lose it or have very hard time getting above with this 'attitude' especially has the software industry is becoming extremely and savagely more competitive than ever, and especially as AI has made it easier than never to build software solutions. Agents and GPTs now can replace many of these supposed to be FOSS... some will close soon...

I haven't completely investigated yet only a quick overview though apparently garage could be a quite interesting alternative that could be explored, what's interesting is it integrates with NexCloud, Peertube, Mastodon and Matrix and more stuff, let's check it out.

EDIT: Complete S3 compatibility status here.

The only affordable alternative I can see for now is not open source but pretty good, you can get 3T encrypted with S3 compatible object storage API, desktop sync app and more, for E15.00 per month @ mega.nz if that can help

@d19dotca Wow, thanks bro this is very kind of you for sharing this, I'm already using the previous ones you shared, pretty good, so we'll replace them with those new ones

@canadaduane One can run it from Easypanel

@jdaviescoates Yeah, there are many things in development, it's actually pretty heavily developed and updated several times a week, so I've no doubt it'll come to a point where it'll connect to big tech's api as well, sooner that later...

By reading descriptions here, I detected 2 major differences.

1. It seems like LibreChat CAN be used with APIs to most the big external LLMs available, which Open WebUI does NOT. It can use only OpenAI's API.
2. It seems like LibreChat must use APIs to outsider RAG system, while Open WebUI has it's own RAG system integrated.
3. Yeah, there might be a third one. Open WebUI is geared to use most of the open source LLMs available right now, it even has a huggingface pipeline, it's a great community with available plugins, functions and tasks, while LibreChat does not seem, at first glance, to be geared to use open source LLMs.

There would be a use for both and since Open WebUI is already on Cloudron, it could be cool to add LibreChat as well. On another note, there's AnythingLLM that has also been suggested. Is there any comparison made to that also amazing LLMs UI? Would be interesting to find out as well before spending time adding a new LLM UI on Cloudron, and thus keep resources to add some other much on demand apps that have been in the waiting for long.

@jdaviescoates said in Cloudron services are slow:

@nebulon

@KhalilZammeli said in Cloudron services are slow:

update of the screenshot for our wordpress service, very high CPU usage, how can we investigate these ?

Given the above and the fact WordPress uses mysql (and is very often attacked as it's so widely used, and malicious plugins are also quite common) that seem to me to be the obvious first app to investigate.

Absolutely! Most of the time a WP plugin is the culprit. A WP plugin that's been acquired through a 'friend' which is not the original developer. Extremely, dangerous these are compromised in 99% of the times.