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Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld

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  • BrutalBirdieB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by girish
    #1

    I know this may sound stupid. But I wanted to know which cloudron version is currently running without going into the shell.

    But I could not find the information, not under https://my.domain.tld/#/settings or https://my.domain.tld/#/system where I would expect the information to be.

    Settings has a section for Updates why not display the current version there and/or in system information as well?

    Updates

    Edit: Or in the footer
    footer version

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    • nebulonN Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      The bottom right of the dashboard has the version number. It is a bit faded so it doesn't stand out. Is that sufficient?

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      • marcusquinnM Offline
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        #3

        I had the same question once until I noticed the footer text. Maybe worth also showing it on the Updates panel?

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        • nebulonN nebulon

          The bottom right of the dashboard has the version number. It is a bit faded so it doesn't stand out. Is that sufficient?

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          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @nebulon said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

          The bottom right of the dashboard has the version number. It is a bit faded so it doesn't stand out. Is that sufficient?

          wow I really did not notice that, because my visual focus when using cloudron is the middle/central since that is where most the content is displayed, with the exception of the footer and navbar/navigation.

          That one is sufficient indeed, but I would like a link to the changelog on that version tag.

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          • nebulonN Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            I was about to add a link to the changelog, but in fact the Cloudron itself does not have that information readily available currently unless there is an update pending.

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            • girishG Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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              • girishG girish

                @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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                @girish Exactly. 🙂

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    https://my.domain.tld/api/v1/cloudron/status
                    is the quickest way to a Cloudron's version number --- and public for all!

                    Mine is in a pinned Firefox tab.

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                    • nebulonN nebulon

                      Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @nebulon said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                      Alright. Thanks for the input here. I have removed the version from the footer and we now show it in the update section of the dashboard.

                      I liked it in the footer and want it back! 🙏

                      As does @robi, see https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15510

                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      • girishG girish

                        @nebulon Maybe we can remove the version from the footer and move it into Updates section? This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

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                        @girish said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                        This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

                        And I cannot see what harm them knowing it would do?

                        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                          @girish said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                          This means that normal users cannot know the version anymore (but I cannot see why they want to know this anyway).

                          And I cannot see what harm them knowing it would do?

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                          wrote on last edited by d19dotca
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                          @jdaviescoates I gotta be honest, I don’t know why it NEEDS to be in the footer. While I didn’t care it was there, I also don’t care that it’s been moved. Lol. I wonder if this is just one of those changes that isn’t liked at first but we come to see it as making sense / understand the design choice in the future. Most software keeps the versions hidden and viewable only by admins, so this to me makes logical sense as far as design goes.

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                          • d19dotcaD d19dotca

                            @jdaviescoates I gotta be honest, I don’t know why it NEEDS to be in the footer. While I didn’t care it was there, I also don’t care that it’s been moved. Lol. I wonder if this is just one of those changes that isn’t liked at first but we come to see it as making sense / understand the design choice in the future. Most software keeps the versions hidden and viewable only by admins, so this to me makes logical sense as far as design goes.

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                            @d19dotca I wouldn't say it NEEDS to be there either. I just liked it being there as a really quick and easy way to see what version I'm running. And I don't really get why it was removed without anyone asking for it to be removed (indeed, it was seemingly paradoxically removed because someone wanted to be able to easily see it, but hadn't even noticed it was there! 😛 )

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                              4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                              For me it doesn't need to be in the footer, I prefer to have only the custom footer down there.

                              Version is only interesting for admins, the less clutter the better. (At the same time, I could totally live with it down there. 😀 )

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                              • ruihildtR ruihildt

                                4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                                For me it doesn't need to be in the footer, I prefer to have only the custom footer down there.

                                Version is only interesting for admins, the less clutter the better. (At the same time, I could totally live with it down there. 😀 )

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                                jdaviescoates
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                                Heh, fair point.

                                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                  @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                  4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                                  Heh, fair point.

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                                  wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                                  #16

                                  @jdaviescoates said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                  @ruihildt said in Usability - Can't find current Cloudron version on my.domain.tld:

                                  4 people upvoted Girish post on it.

                                  Heh, fair point.

                                  But, I still like my preferred solution here:
                                  https://forum.cloudron.io/post/15541

                                  Would keep everyone happy, no? 🙂 (and also has 4 upvotes 😉 )

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #17

                                    We looked into many of the apps we have and most don't show the version in the footer. I guess the expectation is to find it somewhere else. So, we just moved it. We do keep getting repeated emails that they don't know what version the Cloudron is since they don't look into the footer (it's natural for me, but I guess it's not for others).

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                                    • girishG girish

                                      We looked into many of the apps we have and most don't show the version in the footer. I guess the expectation is to find it somewhere else. So, we just moved it. We do keep getting repeated emails that they don't know what version the Cloudron is since they don't look into the footer (it's natural for me, but I guess it's not for others).

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                                      jdaviescoates
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

                                      I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                        @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

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                                        girish
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @jdaviescoates Currently, the footer is just a free flowing markdown. I guess we have to template it to have something like {{version}} or %version% or something. Have to see how easy/hard this is.

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                                        • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                                          @girish just make having it in the footer an option under branding?

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                                          girish
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @jdaviescoates I noticed now that we have 2020 hardcoed as the default footer. So we probably want to have some templating since 2021 is almost here...

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