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cloudron hangs up needing a restart at least every few days

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    A Former User
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    #8

    I just want to ask if the things are better now with Contabo and using Cloudron.
    Contabo itself seems to be very reliable hosting company and I plan to switch to them which makes no sense if Cloudron is struggling on their VPS.

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      nebulon
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      I don't believe we have new information here regarding Contabo and if it is now performing better.

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      • ? A Former User

        I just want to ask if the things are better now with Contabo and using Cloudron.
        Contabo itself seems to be very reliable hosting company and I plan to switch to them which makes no sense if Cloudron is struggling on their VPS.

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        #10

        @Captain-Kirk I have been using Contabo for a long time, with several Cloudron.

        What we found is that the cheapest VPS would get random errors, ever changing and not fixable. When moving to an upper plan, no problem would be noticed.

        So I would suggest to go with mid-level VPS at first, and if you encounter error, try another plan.

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          #11

          Thanks @ruihildt. So the VPS L SSD plan should be fine?

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          • ? A Former User

            Thanks @ruihildt. So the VPS L SSD plan should be fine?

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            ruihildt
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            @Captain-Kirk That's what I have indeed, I don't remember if I tried the one below, but at that price point, it's a no brainer anyway.

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              Another option that is more stable is the link in my signature for SSDnodes.

              It seems their default server routing places you in a busy area, so if you notice issues in the first few days, an email to support to ask they move you to another part of the DC and you'll be fine.

              Can't beat the price.

              Conscious tech

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              • robiR robi

                Another option that is more stable is the link in my signature for SSDnodes.

                It seems their default server routing places you in a busy area, so if you notice issues in the first few days, an email to support to ask they move you to another part of the DC and you'll be fine.

                Can't beat the price.

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                @robi thanks, looks amazing. The only thing is the GDPR. So I have to work with European (German) providers which host in German data centers.

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                  Yep, I think they're in Amsterdam but not Germany yet.

                  Conscious tech

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                    @staff I wonder if this thread should have contabo added to its title and/ or be tagged contabo to help people find it when considering VPS hosts?

                    I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                      Just to Confirm that Contabo VPS L SSD plan has no issue with Cloudron

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        @staff I wonder if this thread should have contabo added to its title and/ or be tagged contabo to help people find it when considering VPS hosts?

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                        #18

                        @jdaviescoates search will find it.

                        Conscious tech

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                        • ? A Former User

                          @robi thanks, looks amazing. The only thing is the GDPR. So I have to work with European (German) providers which host in German data centers.

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                          @Captain-Kirk If you are still talking about ssdnodes.com they do have a Frankfurt location which I've been on for over a year. There is a sale in fact right now for that location!

                          ssdnodes-frankfurt.png image url)

                          A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                            @scooke That's right. But the company is based in CA. American companies are subject to the Freedom Act (formerly: Patriot Act) and are therefore obliged to allow US authorities potential access to the (cloud) data of their customers.

                            I am leaving my comfortable G-Suite and will fully comply with data protection regulations with my hosted solutions. Do it once, do it right 🙂

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                            • ? A Former User

                              @scooke That's right. But the company is based in CA. American companies are subject to the Freedom Act (formerly: Patriot Act) and are therefore obliged to allow US authorities potential access to the (cloud) data of their customers.

                              I am leaving my comfortable G-Suite and will fully comply with data protection regulations with my hosted solutions. Do it once, do it right 🙂

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                              #21

                              @Captain-Kirk Ah, I understand now. Sorry about that. What company will you choose? I'm also looking for an EU-based host.

                              A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                @Captain-Kirk Ah, I understand now. Sorry about that. What company will you choose? I'm also looking for an EU-based host.

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                                @scooke I wait until Cloudron Version 6 is released, where Ubuntu 20.04 is supported. Then I will move to Contabo. A lot of the memebers here trust in them.
                                https://contabo.de/?show=vps

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                                • ? A Former User

                                  @scooke I wait until Cloudron Version 6 is released, where Ubuntu 20.04 is supported. Then I will move to Contabo. A lot of the memebers here trust in them.
                                  https://contabo.de/?show=vps

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                                  @Captain-Kirk Pretty good prices actually. Thanks.

                                  A life lived in fear is a life half-lived

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                                    msbt
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                                    #24

                                    Sorry to hijack this topic for contabo related questions, but there seem to be a lot of customers here that could maybe shed some light on my issue. I ordered a VPS 1400 and setting it up worked fine (although being slower than anything I have from hetzner, from connecting via ssh - this takes a few seconds sometimes - to installing things), but after 2-3 days I wanted to reinstall Nextcloud and realized that it couldn't resolve any domain names. I've already contacted support, but maybe this is a known issue and there's already a solution for it.

                                    Basically the name resolution stopped working, so Cloudron can't download the docker images or get a read from api/appstore. Restart didn't solve it and I didn't change anything. Any thoughts?

                                    Cheers, M

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                                      @msbt I would start by debugging at the server level.

                                      • Check /etc/resolv.conf . This gives the DNS server the system uses. In Cloudron, this should be set to 127.0.0.1. This is where unbound is listening.
                                      • systemctl status unbound to see if unbound is running
                                      • host www.cloudron.io 127.0.0.1 this queries unbound to resolve the domain name
                                      • host www.cloudron.io 8.8.8.8 this queries google DNS to resolve the domain name

                                      Do all the above look good?

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                                      • M msbt

                                        Sorry to hijack this topic for contabo related questions, but there seem to be a lot of customers here that could maybe shed some light on my issue. I ordered a VPS 1400 and setting it up worked fine (although being slower than anything I have from hetzner, from connecting via ssh - this takes a few seconds sometimes - to installing things), but after 2-3 days I wanted to reinstall Nextcloud and realized that it couldn't resolve any domain names. I've already contacted support, but maybe this is a known issue and there's already a solution for it.

                                        Basically the name resolution stopped working, so Cloudron can't download the docker images or get a read from api/appstore. Restart didn't solve it and I didn't change anything. Any thoughts?

                                        Cheers, M

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                                        #26

                                        @msbt I had this exact issue while installing Cloudron an a Contabo VPS lately. The installer was unable to pull docker containers because of errors like this:

                                        Get https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/: dial tcp: lookup registry-1.docker.io on 192.168.65.1:53: no such host
                                        

                                        The problem was that Contabos Ubuntu image uses Contabos own nameservers and enforces DNSSEC. I can post you my configuration changes if you need them.

                                        PS: I have also set host entries for docker.io (before I found the real issue) but that should only be a temporary fix because their IPs can change.

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                                        • subvenS subven

                                          @msbt I had this exact issue while installing Cloudron an a Contabo VPS lately. The installer was unable to pull docker containers because of errors like this:

                                          Get https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/: dial tcp: lookup registry-1.docker.io on 192.168.65.1:53: no such host
                                          

                                          The problem was that Contabos Ubuntu image uses Contabos own nameservers and enforces DNSSEC. I can post you my configuration changes if you need them.

                                          PS: I have also set host entries for docker.io (before I found the real issue) but that should only be a temporary fix because their IPs can change.

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                                          msbt
                                          App Dev
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                                          @subven that would be nice, I just "solved" the issue with a complete shutdown and reboot, for whatever reason it started working again. If you have a more permanent solution, would appreciate if you could share it.

                                          thanks @girish, I'll try that the next time, at the moment it's working again.

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