AVX Support in your VPS/Server
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I just moved from a Netcup VPS (no AVX support) to a Contabo VPS (with AVX support). I restored my cloudron backup that's stored on a Google Cloud Bucket. It works all fine now and I also updated to cloudron 7.6. All in all it went ok, just some minor pain points that were fixable. If someone get's stuck with the same migration I can share my experience.
@erikscholz said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
to a Contabo VPS
Did you benchmark it? From my experience, Contabo has good prices but terrible performance compared to Netcup. I had lots of customers migrating from Contabo to Hetzner/Netcup over the years.
Currently looking for 4-5 small servers to replace Netcups VPS 500 and VPS 1000 for some customers. Next best option seems to be Netcup RS 1000 G9.5. Any other ideas? Looking for servers located in the EU, under 10ā¬/month with comparable ressources and features.
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No referrals
but this site is something to monitor: https://www.netcup-sonderangebote.de/ -
@erikscholz said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
to a Contabo VPS
Did you benchmark it? From my experience, Contabo has good prices but terrible performance compared to Netcup. I had lots of customers migrating from Contabo to Hetzner/Netcup over the years.
Currently looking for 4-5 small servers to replace Netcups VPS 500 and VPS 1000 for some customers. Next best option seems to be Netcup RS 1000 G9.5. Any other ideas? Looking for servers located in the EU, under 10ā¬/month with comparable ressources and features.
Yes I did some benchmarks and discussed that here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/75580
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@why42 said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
So could you please provide Cloudron versions >=7.6 without AVX/AVX2 dependencies.
I don't think that is going to happen tbh.
The problem is the MongoDB 5 which numerous apps require itselfs requires AVX/AVX2
Sadly that means the the cheap Netcup VPS servers are no longer compatible with Cloudron (although their more expensive RS RootServer range still is).
I'd recommend checking out Hetzner Cloud as an almost as cheap but overall imho much better provider than Netcup (tbh I've just found everything about Netcup to be clunky, whereas the whole experience with Hetzner is pretty great imho)
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@jdaviescoates As far as I know, you can compile new versions of Mongo DB without AVX support
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Hi,
some noob question please.
Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?IĀ“m also a netcup user without AVX Support.
Thanx in advance.
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Hi,
some noob question please.
Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?IĀ“m also a netcup user without AVX Support.
Thanx in advance.
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Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.
RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61ā¬/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)
- 6 AMD RYZEN
9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz - 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
- 400 GB NVMe SSD
- 1 IPv4-Address
- 1 Gbit/s Link
- 6 AMD RYZEN
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Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.
RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61ā¬/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)
- 6 AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
- 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
- 400 GB NVMe SSD
- 1 IPv4-Address
- 1 Gbit/s Link
- 6 AMD RYZEN
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Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.
RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61ā¬/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)
- 6 AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
- 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
- 400 GB NVMe SSD
- 1 IPv4-Address
- 1 Gbit/s Link
@subven said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
Unesty
Had never heard of them, but seems their German servers are 100% green energy like Netcup and Hetzner etc and so seems I should add them to my list of such providers over at https://ud.coop/ecovps
Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out
- 6 AMD RYZEN
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@subven said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
Unesty
Had never heard of them, but seems their German servers are 100% green energy like Netcup and Hetzner etc and so seems I should add them to my list of such providers over at https://ud.coop/ecovps
Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out
@jdaviescoates said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out
They appear to be a very small company that limits their offerings to the number of users they can support. After the big Christmas sale, they marked most of the offers as sold out in order to be able to serve all new customers.
@robi it is shared vCPU though but a big upgrade from SATA SSD's and even the network seems faster. My external backup takes half the time now (around 1h).
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well of course my host does not support avx. So, does this mean I will have to move to another provider, since I have to pay for this host until August this year?
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In the long run its probably recommended, since mongodb does require this. We have plans to make that optional, but that of course means that you wont be able to use apps which rely on that database.
I would first try to contact your server provider though and ask for the reason that its not supported, maybe its just a disabled flag on their side, which could be enabled.
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I was testing a non-AVX setup again.
I got a VPS 200 from netcup. The cheapest possible and this has AVX already.
# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep avx flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities flags : fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities -
Hello,
Im looking to purchase a server upgrade at Netcup, a "RS 8000 G11 iv 12M". I wanted to see if anyone else here has this specific server offering AND can attest that it offers AVX?
@privsec said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
"RS 8000 G11 iv 12M"
Any netcup RS server will have AVX.
@girish said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:
I got a VPS 200 from netcup. The cheapest possible and this has AVX already.
Weird, I've just asked Netcup again and they said their VPS do not have AVX, only RS (sounds like they want to push you to buy a RS). I've referenced your post, let's see what they say...
