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    dieter
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    #76

    Hi,
    some noob question please.
    Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

    I“m also a netcup user without AVX Support.

    Thanx in advance.

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    • D dieter

      Hi,
      some noob question please.
      Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

      I“m also a netcup user without AVX Support.

      Thanx in advance.

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      girish
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #77

      @dieter said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

      Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

      It should work fine for the coming months. But I wouldn't recommend this as a long term solution. Currently, all app updates are still available to 7.5 .

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        wazolab
        wrote on last edited by
        #78

        OVH Cloud VPS does have AVX support on Intel Core Processor (Haswell, no TSX)

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        • D dieter

          Hi,
          some noob question please.
          Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

          I“m also a netcup user without AVX Support.

          Thanx in advance.

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          eddowding
          wrote on last edited by
          #79

          @dieter Ditto. Which is a bugger as I only just renewed in November and they dont like refunds / shifts. šŸ˜ž

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            subven
            wrote on last edited by subven
            #80

            Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.

            RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61€/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)

            • 6 AMD RYZENā„¢ 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
            • 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
            • 400 GB NVMe SSD
            • 1 IPv4-Address
            • 1 Gbit/s Link
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            • subvenS subven

              Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.

              RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61€/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)

              • 6 AMD RYZENā„¢ 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
              • 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
              • 400 GB NVMe SSD
              • 1 IPv4-Address
              • 1 Gbit/s Link
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              robi
              wrote on last edited by
              #81

              @subven with that CPU, heck yes, nice and speedy.

              Conscious tech

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              • subvenS subven

                Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.

                RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61€/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)

                • 6 AMD RYZENā„¢ 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
                • 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
                • 400 GB NVMe SSD
                • 1 IPv4-Address
                • 1 Gbit/s Link
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                jdaviescoates
                wrote on last edited by jdaviescoates
                #82

                @subven said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                Unesty

                Had never heard of them, but seems their German servers are 100% green energy like Netcup and Hetzner etc and so seems I should add them to my list of such providers over at https://ud.coop/ecovps šŸ™‚

                Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out šŸ¤”

                I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                  @subven said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                  Unesty

                  Had never heard of them, but seems their German servers are 100% green energy like Netcup and Hetzner etc and so seems I should add them to my list of such providers over at https://ud.coop/ecovps šŸ™‚

                  Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out šŸ¤”

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                  subven
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #83

                  @jdaviescoates said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                  Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out

                  They appear to be a very small company that limits their offerings to the number of users they can support. After the big Christmas sale, they marked most of the offers as sold out in order to be able to serve all new customers.

                  @robi it is shared vCPU though but a big upgrade from SATA SSD's and even the network seems faster. My external backup takes half the time now (around 1h).

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                  • N Neiluj

                    Going by the output of the "cat | grep" command, Cloud VPS from SSDnodes has AVX support.

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                    doodlemania2
                    App Dev
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #84

                    @Neiluj was stressed - all my eggs are in SSDNodes' basket. Great to see the support is there!

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                      schnarcher
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                      #85

                      well of course my host does not support avx. So, does this mean I will have to move to another provider, since I have to pay for this host until August this year?

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                        nebulon
                        Staff
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #86

                        In the long run its probably recommended, since mongodb does require this. We have plans to make that optional, but that of course means that you wont be able to use apps which rely on that database.

                        I would first try to contact your server provider though and ask for the reason that its not supported, maybe its just a disabled flag on their side, which could be enabled.

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                          girish
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #87

                          I was testing a non-AVX setup again.

                          I got a VPS 200 from netcup. The cheapest possible and this has AVX already.

                          # cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep avx
                          flags		: fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities
                          flags		: fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities
                          
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                            lukas
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                            #88

                            oh yes, I love netcup !

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                            Speed of a RS2000 G11

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                              privsec
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                              #89

                              Hello,

                              Im looking to purchase a server upgrade at Netcup, a "RS 8000 G11 iv 12M". I wanted to see if anyone else here has this specific server offering AND can attest that it offers AVX?

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                              • P privsec

                                Hello,

                                Im looking to purchase a server upgrade at Netcup, a "RS 8000 G11 iv 12M". I wanted to see if anyone else here has this specific server offering AND can attest that it offers AVX?

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                                avatar1024
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #90

                                @privsec said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                                "RS 8000 G11 iv 12M"

                                Any netcup RS server will have AVX.

                                @girish said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                                I got a VPS 200 from netcup. The cheapest possible and this has AVX already.

                                Weird, I've just asked Netcup again and they said their VPS do not have AVX, only RS (sounds like they want to push you to buy a RS). I've referenced your post, let's see what they say...

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                                  avatar1024
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #91

                                  Just got their response:

                                  "Normally, AVX is not activated on the VPS. I don't know why this was or is the case. If this is the case, you are lucky with the server."

                                  Sounds odd to me...

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                                    girish
                                    Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #92

                                    @avatar1024 I can try this again, I sure hope I wasn't imagining!

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                                      girish
                                      Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by girish
                                      #93

                                      @avatar1024 yeah, I was not tripping. I ordered a new VPS 200 G10s

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                                      Curiously, in the order sheet, it still says "Root server". Is this the mistake I am making? Is there another page to get some non-avx server?

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        @avatar1024 yeah, I was not tripping. I ordered a new VPS 200 G10s

                                        image.png

                                        Curiously, in the order sheet, it still says "Root server". Is this the mistake I am making? Is there another page to get some non-avx server?

                                        09366533-8351-4d63-9776-da3b32bebc9d-image.png

                                        image.png

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                                        avatar1024
                                        wrote on last edited by avatar1024
                                        #94

                                        @girish said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

                                        Curiously, in the order sheet, it still says "Root server". Is this the mistake I am making? Is there another page to get some non-avx server?

                                        Nah that is the correct and only page for VPS. I think someone in their team is tripping and mixing shit up with the orders šŸ˜‰šŸ‘Œ. I wonder, should we tell or not tell them šŸ¤”šŸ¤«šŸ˜‚

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                                          gsassen
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                                          #95

                                          I have some netcup VPS servers. A few weeks ago there was a message in the control panel that the KVM version had been updated and that I should switch off and start the servers again, which I did. When I look at the servers now, they all support avx, even the oldest and smallest ones. I hope this is intended šŸ™‚

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