AVX Support in your VPS/Server

[erikscholz]

@girish

@girish said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

@erikscholz said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

just some minor pain points that were fixable
What should we fix ?

I had a couple of struggles that for example were connected to how Contabo operates. For example I installed the wrong version of cloudron, then cancelled the process, than I had to reinstall the whole Ubuntu and then I had trouble to reconnect to the server due to some ssh key or such. So it's not related to cloudron. There is one thing I suggest that's worth fixing on cloudron side, though:

I restored cloudron with a config file. That went all in all pretty smooth. The form that showed up after uploading the config file did miss one information. Google Buckets require some sort of json key. But the form did not show in red what was missing. So I suggest to have a negative validation (e.g. in red) for missing elements. At that moment I did not even know that such json key exists because it's a while ago that I connected a google cloud bucket to cloudron.

[maxkreg]

@maxkreg said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

I´ll send an email to netcup customer support, maybe they can be convinced to add AVX support if enough of us are complaining.

FYI: I didn’t get a reply from netcup for 3 weeks now. No reply as in no response aside from the usual ‘we have received your message’.
I think this is quite worrisome.

[luckow]

@BrutalBirdie said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

I talked to the SysOps Team of hosting.de and they are working on a solution for the Cloud Server for AWX.
Could take 2-4 Weeks.

In the meantime, they have solved this issue

[subven]

@erikscholz said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

to a Contabo VPS

Did you benchmark it? From my experience, Contabo has good prices but terrible performance compared to Netcup. I had lots of customers migrating from Contabo to Hetzner/Netcup over the years.

Currently looking for 4-5 small servers to replace Netcups VPS 500 and VPS 1000 for some customers. Next best option seems to be Netcup RS 1000 G9.5. Any other ideas? Looking for servers located in the EU, under 10€/month with comparable ressources and features.

[imc67]

No referrals but this site is something to monitor: https://www.netcup-sonderangebote.de/

[erikscholz]

@subven

Yes I did some benchmarks and discussed that here: https://forum.cloudron.io/post/75580

[Alex654]

@jdaviescoates As far as I know, you can compile new versions of Mongo DB without AVX support

[girish]

@Alex654 do you know if mongodb supports that officially? I haven't found any doc page regarding this yet.

[dieter]

Hi,
some noob question please.
Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

I´m also a netcup user without AVX Support.

Thanx in advance.

[girish]

@dieter said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

Is it still secure to use v7.5.2?

It should work fine for the coming months. But I wouldn't recommend this as a long term solution. Currently, all app updates are still available to 7.5 .

[wazolab]

OVH Cloud VPS does have AVX support on Intel Core Processor (Haswell, no TSX)

[eddowding]

@dieter Ditto. Which is a bugger as I only just renewed in November and they dont like refunds / shifts.

[subven]

Bye the way I moved from my Netcup to Unesty and their servers have AVX.

RYZEN GEN2 VPS | 12,61€/month (permanent 50% discount with xmas voucher)

• 6 AMD RYZEN 9 7950X3D vCores @ 4,2 - 5,7 GHz
• 16 GB DDR5 ECC RAM
• 400 GB NVMe SSD
• 1 IPv4-Address
• 1 Gbit/s Link

[robi]

@subven with that CPU, heck yes, nice and speedy.

[jdaviescoates]

@subven said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

Unesty

Had never heard of them, but seems their German servers are 100% green energy like Netcup and Hetzner etc and so seems I should add them to my list of such providers over at https://ud.coop/ecovps

Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out

[subven]

@jdaviescoates said in AVX Support in your VPS/Server:

Although seems odd that most of their VPS options are sold out

They appear to be a very small company that limits their offerings to the number of users they can support. After the big Christmas sale, they marked most of the offers as sold out in order to be able to serve all new customers.

@robi it is shared vCPU though but a big upgrade from SATA SSD's and even the network seems faster. My external backup takes half the time now (around 1h).

[doodlemania2]

@Neiluj was stressed - all my eggs are in SSDNodes' basket. Great to see the support is there!

[schnarcher]

well of course my host does not support avx. So, does this mean I will have to move to another provider, since I have to pay for this host until August this year?

[nebulon]

In the long run its probably recommended, since mongodb does require this. We have plans to make that optional, but that of course means that you wont be able to use apps which rely on that database.

I would first try to contact your server provider though and ask for the reason that its not supported, maybe its just a disabled flag on their side, which could be enabled.

[girish]

I was testing a non-AVX setup again.

I got a VPS 200 from netcup. The cheapest possible and this has AVX already.

# cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep avx
flags		: fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities
flags		: fpu de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx lm constant_tsc nopl xtopology cpuid tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes xsave avx rdrand hypervisor lahf_lm abm cpuid_fault invpcid_single pti ssbd ibrs ibpb invpcid md_clear arch_capabilities