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Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions

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  • hexbinH hexbin

    Hello power users, here's a collection of newbie users' experience feedback for the dashboard:

    • Confusion about what app to use for what purpose (in the respective organization)
    • Confusion about "wrong login credentials"

    (Whining at a high level, they are all very happy with Cloudron)

    Here's a suggestion to mitigate confusion:

    Cloudron-dashboard-enhancements_210326hxb.png

    • Keep the label field untouched ("filebox"). Using the subdomain part as a default works well and we do not want any disruption here
    • Add a description field for individual information ("File transfer"). This can be empty by default.
    • Add login type information (if possible). Depending on the permissions handling of the grid-item-actions layer you could add that icon there, otherwise append it with an :after element to the container. Plus a legend below.

    Happy to help with CSS fumbling if that helps getting forward ๐Ÿ˜‰

    And Please forgive me for not having digged deeply into possibly related issues. I found #1804 with a "perhaps related".

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    d19dotca
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    #2

    @hexbin said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

    Add a description field for individual information ("File transfer"). This can be empty by default.

    I definitely like this idea in particular for a description, as long as it's empty by default. I can think of one specific use-case in my environment where this would be helpful, as I sometimes make multiple different staging sites for a client's website for different projects for the production site and sometimes I have to log into them all to remember which one I made which changes in if it's been a week or two since I worked on their project and "lost my place". This would definitely save some time in those situations.

    --
    Dustin Dauncey
    www.d19.ca

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      nebulon
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      I kind of like those suggestions. To not clutter the UI on overview, the login-type indicator could also just be shown on hover.

      I have to experiment a bit on the "description" aspect, but this should be doable.

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      • nebulonN nebulon

        I kind of like those suggestions. To not clutter the UI on overview, the login-type indicator could also just be shown on hover.

        I have to experiment a bit on the "description" aspect, but this should be doable.

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        hexbin
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @nebulon Hover for the icon was exactly what I had in mind ๐Ÿ™‚

        While you're at it, could you check why the focus on the tiles (keyboard navigation) has no visual effect?

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        • nebulonN nebulon

          I kind of like those suggestions. To not clutter the UI on overview, the login-type indicator could also just be shown on hover.

          I have to experiment a bit on the "description" aspect, but this should be doable.

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          d19dotca
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @nebulon said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

          just be shown on hover

          This is probably totally fine since this likely wouldn't be used too often anyways where people need to check which login type it is, but just a friendly reminder that "hover" doesn't really exist for mobile devices. Ideally whatever is done would be mobile-friendly too. Not all users will use desktops to login quickly to a web app. ๐Ÿ™‚

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          Dustin Dauncey
          www.d19.ca

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            girish
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            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            login indicator is an excellent suggestion! I prefer it to be always shown instead on hover. (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

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            • girishG girish

              login indicator is an excellent suggestion! I prefer it to be always shown instead on hover. (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

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              imc67
              translator
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @girish but please make sure that it also works on tablets like an iPad Pro because currently it's almost impossible to use the Dashboard on an iPad as the "hover icons" are not visible (and you can't hover on a tough device) and after struggling when you do see them they are much much to small ๐Ÿ˜ž

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              • marcusquinnM Offline
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                #8

                Given that these icons (username/email/auth) are just visual but not clickable, may I suggest a ... icon in the top right that is clickable/tappable as a context menu for config/logs/info/url instead of the rollover icons?

                Screenshot from WebCatalog, just as an example of the top-right area idea:

                0439e79e-f1bb-4fd7-a49b-fec1448cd07a-image.png

                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                Development https://brandlight.org
                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                • marcusquinnM Offline
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                  marcusquinn
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  Eg:

                  8faca138-f46d-4536-9d41-5daed940203e-image.png

                  Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                  Development https://brandlight.org
                  Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                  • marcusquinnM Offline
                    marcusquinnM Offline
                    marcusquinn
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #10

                    For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

                    5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                    Development https://brandlight.org
                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                      For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

                      5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

                      imc67I Offline
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                      imc67
                      translator
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      @marcusquinn great, I do something similar and add "My" in front of the name when it is LDAP, so the user know it can login with same credentials (but here is the thing like mentioned before, sometimes with username and sometimes with full email address).

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

                        5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

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                        BrutalBirdie
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                        wrote on last edited by BrutalBirdie
                        #12

                        @marcusquinn Ah yes the self-explanatory ...

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                        a9250403-a2d2-40fa-865d-65f76e80ab85-image.png

                        .
                        

                        app.

                        โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ˜„

                        Mine is even worse:

                        ac557672-b266-4706-810c-4fc92e157847-image.png

                        Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                        • imc67I imc67

                          @marcusquinn great, I do something similar and add "My" in front of the name when it is LDAP, so the user know it can login with same credentials (but here is the thing like mentioned before, sometimes with username and sometimes with full email address).

                          marcusquinnM Offline
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                          marcusquinn
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @imc67 Nice. I have been using the Rocket Chat home page as a one-page reference documentation for all other app explanations and things like that.

                          Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                          • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                            @marcusquinn Ah yes the self-explanatory ...

                            dbedabb1-5515-4542-99ee-d0404b981d4c-image.png

                            a9250403-a2d2-40fa-865d-65f76e80ab85-image.png

                            .
                            

                            app.

                            โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Mine is even worse:

                            ac557672-b266-4706-810c-4fc92e157847-image.png

                            marcusquinnM Offline
                            marcusquinnM Offline
                            marcusquinn
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #14

                            @brutalbirdie Edited for a teeny bit of client privacy. Clever birdie ๐Ÿฆ

                            Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                            Development https://brandlight.org
                            Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                              @brutalbirdie Edited for a teeny bit of client privacy. Clever birdie ๐Ÿฆ

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                              BrutalBirdie
                              Partner
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              @marcusquinn Figures ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ‘
                              I was just reading the names and then the . struck me.
                              Love It.

                              Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                              • hexbinH hexbin

                                Hello power users, here's a collection of newbie users' experience feedback for the dashboard:

                                • Confusion about what app to use for what purpose (in the respective organization)
                                • Confusion about "wrong login credentials"

                                (Whining at a high level, they are all very happy with Cloudron)

                                Here's a suggestion to mitigate confusion:

                                Cloudron-dashboard-enhancements_210326hxb.png

                                • Keep the label field untouched ("filebox"). Using the subdomain part as a default works well and we do not want any disruption here
                                • Add a description field for individual information ("File transfer"). This can be empty by default.
                                • Add login type information (if possible). Depending on the permissions handling of the grid-item-actions layer you could add that icon there, otherwise append it with an :after element to the container. Plus a legend below.

                                Happy to help with CSS fumbling if that helps getting forward ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                And Please forgive me for not having digged deeply into possibly related issues. I found #1804 with a "perhaps related".

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                                marcusquinn
                                wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                                #16

                                @hexbin Any thoughts on icons for those apps with 2FA enabled too perhaps? Maybe a superscript 2? Eg:

                                ๐Ÿ‘ฑยฒ

                                Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                                Development https://brandlight.org
                                Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                  @hexbin Any thoughts on icons for those apps with 2FA enabled too perhaps? Maybe a superscript 2? Eg:

                                  ๐Ÿ‘ฑยฒ

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  I like superscript text generators for these things: ยฒแถ แตƒ

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                                    #18

                                    While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                                    Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                                    I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                                    • ? A Former User

                                      While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                                      Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                                      I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                                      MooCloud_Matt
                                      wrote on last edited by
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                                      @atrilahiji said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

                                      Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?

                                      +1

                                      Matteo. R.
                                      Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                                      MooCloud MSP
                                      Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                                      • ? A Former User

                                        While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                                        Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                                        I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                                        nebulon
                                        Staff
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #20

                                        @atrilahiji some time back we have thought of this actually, back then though it wasn't quite clear to us if this is a common thing to do or not. I am still not sure about the use-case for starting and stopping apps frequently, but maybe I just don't have that. Adding such a button is easy enough if many users find that useful.

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                                        • nebulonN nebulon

                                          @atrilahiji some time back we have thought of this actually, back then though it wasn't quite clear to us if this is a common thing to do or not. I am still not sure about the use-case for starting and stopping apps frequently, but maybe I just don't have that. Adding such a button is easy enough if many users find that useful.

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                                          wrote on last edited by A Former User
                                          #21

                                          @nebulon I can't speak for others but I frequently change config values and restart apps. Not just for EleutheriaPay but a couple other apps require this to pick up config changes. Gitea for example. As for starting and stopping, I have multiple minecraft servers I host but they often don't need to be on all the time, so I turn them off from time to time to save on resources.

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