Zulip - Powerful open source group chat
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@marcusquinn did you set up your own signaling? I forgot
I've still got my teeny service available if you need an external signaling server.@doodlemania2 For Nextcloud Talk? I don't remember needing anything beyond the app as-is, but it's running on a decent spec server, so speed and quality have both been good enough that I'd not thought to need anything else there.
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My 2 cents: Zulip has a unique approach to organising conversation thread which I find the best, is pretty well designed and easy to get used to for non-techy people. As such it would be a useful app to have and not just a duplicate of others.
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My 2 cents: Zulip has a unique approach to organising conversation thread which I find the best, is pretty well designed and easy to get used to for non-techy people. As such it would be a useful app to have and not just a duplicate of others.
@avatar1024 +1 generally agree, it has value other apps don't have
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Some recent updates related to Zulip:
- Zulip has an officially supported, experimental docker image
- Zulip 7.0 was recently released: visual redesign, scheduling messages, streamlining messages, and more.
More information below:
https://zulip.readthedocs.io/en/stable/production/deployment.html#zulip-in-docker
https://github.com/zulip/docker-zulip
https://blog.zulip.com/2023/05/31/zulip-7-0-released/ -
It's been quite some time since this request (5 yrs) and we've seen RocketChat go from hopeful to unusable.
A neat feature is setting up public access community chat as read-only w/o needing an account!
Great alternative to Discord.
Anyone open to taking a stab at packaging this?
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It's been quite some time since this request (5 yrs) and we've seen RocketChat go from hopeful to unusable.
A neat feature is setting up public access community chat as read-only w/o needing an account!
Great alternative to Discord.
Anyone open to taking a stab at packaging this?
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@robi was RocketChat hopeful ever?
I ended up using Mattermost - the most stable from the main set (Rocket, Mattermost, Element).
@potemkin_ai Yes, we were in contact with their leadership team.
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@potemkin_ai Yes, we were in contact with their leadership team.
@robi removed them from my trustworthy since they managed to keep MacOS AppStore version, advertised on the landing, out of date for half of the year, after it was reported as an issue on GitHub.
To be more precise, it was a cherry on the cake, the cake was an enormous amount of bugs I've encountered during the usage and for me, that is a sign of malfunctioning engineering culture - you can't fix it anytime soon...
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@robi removed them from my trustworthy since they managed to keep MacOS AppStore version, advertised on the landing, out of date for half of the year, after it was reported as an issue on GitHub.
To be more precise, it was a cherry on the cake, the cake was an enormous amount of bugs I've encountered during the usage and for me, that is a sign of malfunctioning engineering culture - you can't fix it anytime soon...
@potemkin_ai just to be clear, you're referring to RocketChat with your last comments ? (just checking it's not directed at Zulip)
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@potemkin_ai just to be clear, you're referring to RocketChat with your last comments ? (just checking it's not directed at Zulip)
@timconsidine have nothing against Zulip - thanks for checking in!
Nor self-hosting experience with Zulip either... -
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New plans for self-hosted Zulip customers - https://blog.zulip.com/2023/12/15/new-plans-for-self-hosted-customers/
@girish said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
New plans for self-hosted Zulip customers - https://blog.zulip.com/2023/12/15/new-plans-for-self-hosted-customers/
I am all in favour of Free Software projects experimenting with ways of finding a viable business solution to fund their endeavours. I wish Zulip success.
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Starting today, new self-hosted customers will no longer get unlimited free access to Zulip’s Mobile Push Notification Service.
Is there a plan only for the push notifications?
@jagan said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Is there a plan only for the push notifications?
Yes there is: https://blog.zulip.com/2023/12/19/self-hosting-without-commercial-support/
Is there any major technical stoppers to get Zulip into Cloudron?
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@jagan said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Is there a plan only for the push notifications?
Yes there is: https://blog.zulip.com/2023/12/19/self-hosting-without-commercial-support/
Is there any major technical stoppers to get Zulip into Cloudron?
@avatar1024 said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Yes there is
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
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@avatar1024 said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Yes there is
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
@jdaviescoates said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
Indeeeed
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@jdaviescoates said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
Indeeeed
@jdaviescoates said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
@avatar1024 said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Yes there is
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
Actually Zulip may be the most affordable open source chat app out there. Those $3.5/user/month only come into play if you have more than ten users and want to have mobile notifications using Zulip's relay server.
For Mattermost, you only get a basic version if you don't pay at least $10/user/month for a non-open source version.
Rocket.chat limits the open source community edition to 10,000 notifications per month. Depending on the usage, this may not be enough even for ten users. Yes, you could use the starter edition up to 25 users for free. But that is apples and oranges as it is not open source anymore.
And with Cloudron you can have multiple instances running, so if you are really on a budget, but want mobile notifications, each team of less than 10 people gets its own instance of Zulip.
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@jdaviescoates said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
@avatar1024 said in Zulip - Powerful open source group chat:
Yes there is
$3.50/user/month just for that seems a bit steep
Actually Zulip may be the most affordable open source chat app out there. Those $3.5/user/month only come into play if you have more than ten users and want to have mobile notifications using Zulip's relay server.
For Mattermost, you only get a basic version if you don't pay at least $10/user/month for a non-open source version.
Rocket.chat limits the open source community edition to 10,000 notifications per month. Depending on the usage, this may not be enough even for ten users. Yes, you could use the starter edition up to 25 users for free. But that is apples and oranges as it is not open source anymore.
And with Cloudron you can have multiple instances running, so if you are really on a budget, but want mobile notifications, each team of less than 10 people gets its own instance of Zulip.
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