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@eddowding said in What's the fastest backup and restore method?: I have 175GB and it takes about 12h I guess something is very wrong. Yeah, my backup of about 350GB takes about 2 hours (from a Hetzner Dedicated Server in Finland Helsinki (HEL1) to a Heztner Storage Box in Falkenstein (FSN1)) IMHO your issue is very likely due to those "too good to be true" iDrive offer pricing they had which I guess you went for.

@girish said in Add Pre-Backup and Post-Backup Hooks: Seems to not make sense. That's normal for ERPs, almost all ERPs require full access to their database. This is mostly due to the Modular idea for modern ERP, which implements different DB for each module like a microservice. And communicate between with API or Functions Hooks

@girish awesome! I think what would be helpful is to test the parameters before pressing 'restore', just to validate that both the connection and decryption keys are OK. I found the error messages we have right where more confusing than helpful. I don't really know what I did wrong because to resolve it, I just took a fresh backup and restored it using the same details. All good now though.

@girish said in How to upload/import app backup in Cloudron: Can you make a feature request and link to this post? Filed it here: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/8359/ability-to-import-backups-from-computer-disk-rather-than-needing-to-scp-files/1

yes, if the backup config has a password set, the UI will expect it to be entered before you can restore. You can use the top right menu to mark this as resolved.

@d19dotca yeah, when files move around, the modules we use for file listing is not very good at handling things. I suspect it will work fine again/tonight. I am reworking the backups code to use a different module since we have had issues with apps like owncast as well which move around files a lot.

@jdaviescoates that was quick!

@CBCUN It's in our TODO list. I don't have an ETA yet.

@opensourced you can update to 7.3.2 which has the fix for this. Settings -> Check For Updates. It will say Unstable but it should be stable (there are a few bugs outstanding but nothing major).

@jdaviescoates said in Backing up multiple Cloudrons to the same backup destination?: And just to be double clear, having different prefixs results in different paths, right? yes!

@nebulon said in Confused about a failed backup being listed in backups: @jdaviescoates if you hover over the 5 hours ago you should see the exact time to validate this. It shows 05:54:18 so I guess your theory was correct given the logs I pasted above about the failed backup show 04:00:01 - thanks!

@thoresson yes, exactly.

@rollermy said in Backups: I'd like to limit app backups to 3 total for the apps i choose. Maybe create a feature request post about it?

The db dumps are atomic (it's a feature of the databases). What's not atomic is if an app does not make database changes in a transaction. Or if it tracks state outside of the database. For example, if it writes some media file to filesystem and tracks something else in database. Outside of disk snapshots, there is no way to snapshot a database and filesystem at the moment in time. Disk snapshot of a database is not very portable and in most cases on cloud servers disk snapshots of specific paths are not an option. I used to worry about this a lot back in the day But hundreds of thousand of installation later, I can tell you that I have never hit this problem (the atomicity aspect).

@necrevistonnezr said in Delete Backup Button: @girish Or add a requirement to enter your password for such deletion? I think that's how I'd do it, like Nextcloud does with app updates etc.

@CBCUN any decent hoster can upload with a speed of 10MB/s so for a 600GB backup it should take 16-18 hours. My Cloudron backup is ~80GB TGZ and it takes 35-45 minutes to backup from a Netcup RS to a Hetzner storage box. Either your source/target system is slow as hell or something else is bottlenecking. What method do you use? I found TGZ to be way faster because of the many many small files. If you have larger files, maybe RSYNC is the way to go. A good solution would be a (maybe self hosted) S3 Storage together with RSYNC. I use Minio for one of my backup instances and the backup from Cloudron is blazing fast as most of the work is done by the target machine.

Managing backups like we mange mailboxes does sound like a good idea, and can have checkboxes for daily, full, etc. per app, and more.

@girish So the problem was really with the encryption. Now the backup goes through Rsync without problems. Thank you very much for your help, I think the thread is solved

@d19dotca I can't believe I missed that. Literally read right past it. Thank you!

Hello guys, everything is back online (thanks to Cloudron’s out-of-this-world backup feature). I am grateful for all your help.