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I have added a workaround in the next release to delete 0 length files on startup.

@necrevistonnezr said in How to remove all mail folder?: Another thing is that - as usual with Apple - there’s no way to adjust or reset such suggestions. Even without the „all mail“ folder, it was hit & miss. And why would a folder that has been added later override all previously learned suggestions? It’s just stupid. (BTW, the same goes for login/password suggestions in Safari, even when using Bitwarden - for my Cloudron site, Safari suggests 30 login / password combinations that are out of date. No way to reset that). I hear you. Apple always does everything the apple way. In this case I think its not really related to "learning". I think its more of a scan and match system. You receive a mail and the mail app is looking up for the folder containing the most mails with the given sender. So in case of Amazon apps there are like two options: The Amazon folder and the all mail folder. As I may have missed a few mails in the past and probably just moved them into the archive, there may be a slightly higher amount of mails in the all mail folder. Also I tend to use folders like "cancellations" or "payments" which may also contain Amazon mails. The same goes for office mails. The same sender (f.g. boss@work) may end up in folder "Project A" and Project "B", according to its content and topic. But both mails will be found in "all mail". So no matter what, the all mail folder will - due to its nature - always have the biggest and max. possible amount of mails from every given sender and therefor get the highest "rank" from Apple Mail. At least thats what I assume.

ooh yes, that works, my bad i was in the wrong folder

@jdaviescoates thank you - I've got mail restored using backup, which required a few hours, but the data is there. But I can't really can't see any reason keeping it enabled by default. How many modern mail clients can't handle search across all folders? I understand that you can't satisfy everyone with changes - just wanted to let you know that I'm on the side that is shall not be a default; unless I'm missing something, people lived happily up till 7.5.1

@girish Nice. Wish Cloudron could fix all the other mistakes I make.

There is a plugin but would need to dig deeper to see if you can force the settings. https://github.com/gianlucagiacometti/roundcube-toolbox

@girish said in Mail rejected by Protonmail: Also, have you tried https://www.mail-tester.com/ already for any other errors? Thanks for linking this very nice tool!

No, nothing there. It might have gotten deleted when I cleared the message from the email queue days ago. I don't care about the file as much as knowing from which app did that message originate from. It's probably from the WP app, but I'd like a sure way to tell. I'm guessing there are no tools to trace it back to the app. Oh well.

ahhh, so just have to nix cloudflare altogether, thanks! confused myself because my plains.cloud is cloudflared, but mail.plains.cloud specifically is not! appreciate the clarification

@therealwebmaster Email -> Domain -> Status . You can click on each of the records there and it will tell you what you should setup. [image: 1687095241687-ca0ac153-5ead-4795-b574-f48f6c741393-image-resized.png]

@q__nt_n The VPS blocks port outbound 25. You have to reach out to contabo again and tell them that you can't connect with the above command.

Nicely detailed docs here - https://www.axigen.com/documentation/axigen-auto-discovery-p49119962

@MisterJD yeah, I have seen that some kernels have an upper limit. I haven't found a way to query this limit to show a proper error.

Welp... I followed a few other posts about email not working, and found a file in the mail queue, removed it, restarted the mail... and now it works. I might delete all this... but I might leave it up as a suggestion to anyone else to do the same. At the very least, try restarting mail in the Dashboard.

Hooray! Thank you, @girish !

@warg Haraka is not as widely used as Postfix but it is also hardly a niche product and has been around since 2011. If anything it is down to preference. Cloudron chose it because it is lightweight and efficient and presumably because it best fit their architecture. The IMAP server in Cloudron is Dovecot, which is also used in Plesk. What are your concerns? Yes, the best thing to do is just give it a go and see if it fits your needs.

@userino yeah, it's that way because IMAP/SMTP have no concept of sessions. This means that you might have to repeatedly enter 2FA token which would in turn make using mails clients quite unusable. I recommend generating an app password for Email (what I use personally) and using that as a "throwaway" password. It will work only for Email an won't let you login to other apps.

@girish can you just set them much lower like 20s?

@girish I tried it just with other Browser, it works. That was an stored browser data issue, sorry and thank you. Lukas

@girish oh, ok then sorry for this!