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Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?

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  • marcusquinnM Offline
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    marcusquinn
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    #7

    In fact, I'm intending to start a thread on what I just said soon, just had a bunch of life stuff to balance.

    I'm all-in on promoting Cloudron though, too much on my mind to write now but I can see a bright future, and have some interesting possibilities to bring to the party at some point. Sorry, not intending to be a mystery post, just gotta focus on a fair bit of life stuff first.

    Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
    Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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      @msbt I love your website and offer at https://bits.at/hosting 🙂

      I am planning on offering a managed hosted Cloudron instance in the UK and wondered if you can share a little about your journey and whether you'd embark on it again.

      I currently offer managed hosting services, primarily WordPress and M365. I use Cloudron a lot and would prefer to push OSS apps over reselling M365.

      @marcusquinn how is https://brandlight.org using Cloudron?

      PS Sorry to reviving an old corpse of a thread. I looked and there doesn't seem to be much by way of hosted/managed Cloudrons out there 🤔

      👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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        @msbt I love your website and offer at https://bits.at/hosting 🙂

        I am planning on offering a managed hosted Cloudron instance in the UK and wondered if you can share a little about your journey and whether you'd embark on it again.

        I currently offer managed hosting services, primarily WordPress and M365. I use Cloudron a lot and would prefer to push OSS apps over reselling M365.

        @marcusquinn how is https://brandlight.org using Cloudron?

        PS Sorry to reviving an old corpse of a thread. I looked and there doesn't seem to be much by way of hosted/managed Cloudrons out there 🤔

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        #9

        @3246 said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

        I looked and there doesn't seem to be much by way of hosted/managed Cloudrons out there 🤔

        I'd still like to actually do something with https://selfhost.cloud one day - also selling hosted Cloudrons in the UK, so we should probably chat and share ideas.

        I'm pretty sure @luckow also sells hosted Cloudrons too.

        I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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          #10

          Sounds good. I'd be up for that.

          👉 Find our more www.bebraver.online

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          • 32463 3246

            Sounds good. I'd be up for that.

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            #11

            @3246 Are you asking where to host for UK servers?

            Hostinger has UK as an option, and Cloudron as a disk image on their VPS.

            Hetzner has always been good for me, though, and you don't notice the latency for German hosted servers.

            I don't know about it being a main business. Most of my software business is still web design, app development, and SEO.

            You need to productise all services nowadays, there's not enough margin to give everyone personal custom services.

            Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
            Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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            • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

              @3246 Are you asking where to host for UK servers?

              Hostinger has UK as an option, and Cloudron as a disk image on their VPS.

              Hetzner has always been good for me, though, and you don't notice the latency for German hosted servers.

              I don't know about it being a main business. Most of my software business is still web design, app development, and SEO.

              You need to productise all services nowadays, there's not enough margin to give everyone personal custom services.

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              #12

              @marcusquinn said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

              @3246 Are you asking where to host for UK servers?

              I don't think so. I'm pretty sure @3246 is asking if anyone is selling hosted managed Cloudrons in the UK (like I was intending to do with https://selfhost.cloud )

              I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                Looks like mooCloud split/dissolved into JAMflow
                https://jamflow.cloud/moocloud
                What all other Cloudron providers took up their slack?

                Conscious tech

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                  #14

                  Oh. I'm late to the party. Take a look at our new 30-day trial https://www.gesellschaft-zur-entwicklung-von-dingen.de/en/magazine/try-safeserver-assist-free-30-days
                  Sorry, most of the rest is in German 🙂

                  https://www.safeserver.de/

                  Pronouns: he/him | Primary language: German

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                  • luckowL luckow

                    Oh. I'm late to the party. Take a look at our new 30-day trial https://www.gesellschaft-zur-entwicklung-von-dingen.de/en/magazine/try-safeserver-assist-free-30-days
                    Sorry, most of the rest is in German 🙂

                    https://www.safeserver.de/

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                    @luckow Holy moly what a domain name

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                      #16

                      At Catalyst Collective we provide some hosting services to several organisations using Cloudron but we don't advertise it at all or have the capacity to develop it as a proper business stream (I'm the only one doing it and already have too many other work streams). I'd love to see a UK offering and I'd be happy to help setting it up.

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                      • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                        Let's list them here.

                        I think there are likely quite a few people out there doing this, but I'm not really aware of many.

                        I know of https://osinum.fr/ in France, but I'm guessing @staff know of quite a few similar opeations?

                        https://autonomic.zone/ were offering it too, but I'm not sure they do anymore now that Cloudron is no longer open source.

                        @d19dotca @yusf you provide hosted Cloudron stuff to clients too, right? (but I think you don't actively advertise his?)

                        And from what I can gather @marcusquinn is cooking up some ideas in this area too, right?

                        I'm working with @thetomester13 to set-up https://selfhost.cloud and so want to do a bit of market research about what is currently out there, how they market the offering and what their pricing is like.

                        Would also like to perhaps start the beginning of a little Cloudron resellers peer support community 🙂 (I guess in some ways this forum is already that, but I'm thinking perhaps regular video calls to touch base and share thoughts/ best practice etc)

                        Thanks!

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                        #17

                        @jdaviescoates said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

                        https://autonomic.zone/ were offering it too, but I'm not sure they do anymore now that Cloudron is no longer open source.

                        They indeed stopped doing it when Cloudron changed the license.

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                        • avatar1024A avatar1024

                          At Catalyst Collective we provide some hosting services to several organisations using Cloudron but we don't advertise it at all or have the capacity to develop it as a proper business stream (I'm the only one doing it and already have too many other work streams). I'd love to see a UK offering and I'd be happy to help setting it up.

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                          @avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

                          I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                          • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                            @avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

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                            said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

                            @avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

                            @3246 @avatar1024 are you still both up for discussing this? When would be good for you? Which self-hosted Cloudron meeting app shall we meet on? 🙂

                            I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                            • jdaviescoatesJ jdaviescoates

                              said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

                              @avatar1024 let's get together online with @3246 sometime after 10 Aug (I'm on an interrail adventure until then) and try to make something happen!

                              @3246 @avatar1024 are you still both up for discussing this? When would be good for you? Which self-hosted Cloudron meeting app shall we meet on? 🙂

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                              @jdaviescoates said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

                              @3246 @avatar1024 are you still both up for discussing this? When would be good for you? Which self-hosted Cloudron meeting app shall we meet on? 🙂

                              Sorry for the delayed response, things have been tricky lately. I'd be keen to meet, from 15th Sept is clearer on my end. Happy to use my MiroTalk instance 🙂

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                                #21

                                I am also offering Cloudron hosting including licenses with discounts.

                                Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                                • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                                  I am also offering Cloudron hosting including licenses with discounts.

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                                  @BrutalBirdie said in Who is selling hosted (and supported) Cloudron servers?:

                                  I am also offering Cloudron hosting including licenses with discounts.

                                  Got a link with details? 🙂

                                  I use Cloudron with Gandi & Hetzner

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                                    @jdaviescoates yes and no 😬
                                    I've started this business this July, and I am still operating on a mouth-to-mouth basis.
                                    Already did hint some things here and there like https://forum.cloudron.io/post/109822
                                    But if you want some details, you can send me a DM 🙂

                                    Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                                    • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                                      @jdaviescoates yes and no 😬
                                      I've started this business this July, and I am still operating on a mouth-to-mouth basis.
                                      Already did hint some things here and there like https://forum.cloudron.io/post/109822
                                      But if you want some details, you can send me a DM 🙂

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                                      #24

                                      @BrutalBirdie ahahah - hope you meant word-of-mouth 😅

                                      Web Design & Development: https://www.evergreen.je
                                      Technology & Apps: https://www.marcusquinn.com

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                                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                                        @BrutalBirdie ahahah - hope you meant word-of-mouth 😅

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                                        @marcusquinn maybe 😉 😄

                                        Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                                          #26

                                          I'm working on something that should be set in a couple of weeks from now.

                                          I've been much talking in this forum about some features that should be added to Cloudron to make it easier and functional for MSPs to use Cloudron to provide services for at least 5 years. I'd a lot of ideas to provide this service at scale, however there has been interest but in reality, very few moves to that route (this is not a complaint) I guess it's a matter of priority in development.

                                          So, I'd to refine my ideas to make the offer more of the conceptual type. I'll be using the Technology Courses teaching approach, in AI and Automation mainly, targetting "indie hackers" for a start, but projecting several more target markets, using the same approach. 🙂

                                          This is how I started to develop the idea at first, with the PaaS/SaaS approach.
                                          REVOLUCloud.com the form on the page is not yet active, but once one subscribes it gets redirected to REVOLU.Cloud where the idea of the service and all its possibilities is more developed.

                                          This is not necessarely dead per say, but like I said I'm using a new approach now. I cannot say much for the moment, but anyone having an interest with my new approach just hit me and I'll let you know more when ready.

                                          Ignorance is not an excuse anymore!
                                          https://AutomateKit.com

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