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Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions

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  • nebulonN nebulon

    I kind of like those suggestions. To not clutter the UI on overview, the login-type indicator could also just be shown on hover.

    I have to experiment a bit on the "description" aspect, but this should be doable.

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    d19dotca
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @nebulon said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

    just be shown on hover

    This is probably totally fine since this likely wouldn't be used too often anyways where people need to check which login type it is, but just a friendly reminder that "hover" doesn't really exist for mobile devices. Ideally whatever is done would be mobile-friendly too. Not all users will use desktops to login quickly to a web app. ๐Ÿ™‚

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    • girishG Offline
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      girish
      Staff
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      login indicator is an excellent suggestion! I prefer it to be always shown instead on hover. (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

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      • girishG girish

        login indicator is an excellent suggestion! I prefer it to be always shown instead on hover. (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

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        imc67
        translator
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        @girish but please make sure that it also works on tablets like an iPad Pro because currently it's almost impossible to use the Dashboard on an iPad as the "hover icons" are not visible (and you can't hover on a tough device) and after struggling when you do see them they are much much to small ๐Ÿ˜ž

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        • marcusquinnM Offline
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          #8

          Given that these icons (username/email/auth) are just visual but not clickable, may I suggest a ... icon in the top right that is clickable/tappable as a context menu for config/logs/info/url instead of the rollover icons?

          Screenshot from WebCatalog, just as an example of the top-right area idea:

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          • marcusquinnM Offline
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            marcusquinn
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            #9

            Eg:

            8faca138-f46d-4536-9d41-5daed940203e-image.png

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            • marcusquinnM Offline
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              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

              5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

              Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
              Development https://brandlight.org
              Life https://marcusquinn.com

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              • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

                5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

                imc67I Offline
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                imc67
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                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @marcusquinn great, I do something similar and add "My" in front of the name when it is LDAP, so the user know it can login with same credentials (but here is the thing like mentioned before, sometimes with username and sometimes with full email address).

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                • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                  For interest, I name Apps like this, so they are sort of self-explanatory:

                  5dcac770-e26f-44c4-a912-73812221573e-image.png

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                  BrutalBirdie
                  Partner
                  wrote on last edited by BrutalBirdie
                  #12

                  @marcusquinn Ah yes the self-explanatory ...

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                  a9250403-a2d2-40fa-865d-65f76e80ab85-image.png

                  .
                  

                  app.

                  โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ˜„

                  Mine is even worse:

                  ac557672-b266-4706-810c-4fc92e157847-image.png

                  Like my work? Consider donating a drink. Cheers!

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                  • imc67I imc67

                    @marcusquinn great, I do something similar and add "My" in front of the name when it is LDAP, so the user know it can login with same credentials (but here is the thing like mentioned before, sometimes with username and sometimes with full email address).

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                    marcusquinn
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @imc67 Nice. I have been using the Rocket Chat home page as a one-page reference documentation for all other app explanations and things like that.

                    Web Design https://www.evergreen.je
                    Development https://brandlight.org
                    Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                    • BrutalBirdieB BrutalBirdie

                      @marcusquinn Ah yes the self-explanatory ...

                      dbedabb1-5515-4542-99ee-d0404b981d4c-image.png

                      a9250403-a2d2-40fa-865d-65f76e80ab85-image.png

                      .
                      

                      app.

                      โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ˜„

                      Mine is even worse:

                      ac557672-b266-4706-810c-4fc92e157847-image.png

                      marcusquinnM Offline
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                      marcusquinn
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @brutalbirdie Edited for a teeny bit of client privacy. Clever birdie ๐Ÿฆ

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                      Development https://brandlight.org
                      Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                      • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                        @brutalbirdie Edited for a teeny bit of client privacy. Clever birdie ๐Ÿฆ

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                        BrutalBirdie
                        Partner
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @marcusquinn Figures ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ‘
                        I was just reading the names and then the . struck me.
                        Love It.

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                        • hexbinH hexbin

                          Hello power users, here's a collection of newbie users' experience feedback for the dashboard:

                          • Confusion about what app to use for what purpose (in the respective organization)
                          • Confusion about "wrong login credentials"

                          (Whining at a high level, they are all very happy with Cloudron)

                          Here's a suggestion to mitigate confusion:

                          Cloudron-dashboard-enhancements_210326hxb.png

                          • Keep the label field untouched ("filebox"). Using the subdomain part as a default works well and we do not want any disruption here
                          • Add a description field for individual information ("File transfer"). This can be empty by default.
                          • Add login type information (if possible). Depending on the permissions handling of the grid-item-actions layer you could add that icon there, otherwise append it with an :after element to the container. Plus a legend below.

                          Happy to help with CSS fumbling if that helps getting forward ๐Ÿ˜‰

                          And Please forgive me for not having digged deeply into possibly related issues. I found #1804 with a "perhaps related".

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                          marcusquinn
                          wrote on last edited by marcusquinn
                          #16

                          @hexbin Any thoughts on icons for those apps with 2FA enabled too perhaps? Maybe a superscript 2? Eg:

                          ๐Ÿ‘ฑยฒ

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                          Development https://brandlight.org
                          Life https://marcusquinn.com

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                          • marcusquinnM marcusquinn

                            @hexbin Any thoughts on icons for those apps with 2FA enabled too perhaps? Maybe a superscript 2? Eg:

                            ๐Ÿ‘ฑยฒ

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                            infogulch
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                            #17

                            I like superscript text generators for these things: ยฒแถ แตƒ

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                            • ? Offline
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                              #18

                              While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                              Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                              I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                              • ? A Former User

                                While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                                Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                                I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                                #19

                                @atrilahiji said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

                                Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?

                                +1

                                Matteo. R.
                                Founder and Tech-Support Manager.
                                MooCloud MSP
                                Swiss Managed Service Provider

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                                • ? A Former User

                                  While we're discussing UI changes. Perhaps a Play/Stop button to start/stop the server and a restart button here?
                                  Screen Shot 2021-03-31 at 10.15.35 AM.png

                                  I do find it counterintuitive that it is buried. I get that doing this avoids mis-clicks but this could be alleviated with a confirmation popup for these actions.

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                                  nebulon
                                  Staff
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  @atrilahiji some time back we have thought of this actually, back then though it wasn't quite clear to us if this is a common thing to do or not. I am still not sure about the use-case for starting and stopping apps frequently, but maybe I just don't have that. Adding such a button is easy enough if many users find that useful.

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                                  • nebulonN nebulon

                                    @atrilahiji some time back we have thought of this actually, back then though it wasn't quite clear to us if this is a common thing to do or not. I am still not sure about the use-case for starting and stopping apps frequently, but maybe I just don't have that. Adding such a button is easy enough if many users find that useful.

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                                    #21

                                    @nebulon I can't speak for others but I frequently change config values and restart apps. Not just for EleutheriaPay but a couple other apps require this to pick up config changes. Gitea for example. As for starting and stopping, I have multiple minecraft servers I host but they often don't need to be on all the time, so I turn them off from time to time to save on resources.

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                                      #22

                                      Oh my, there we've got something ๐Ÿ˜„
                                      So many good ideas, this community is awesome!

                                      I love @marcusquinn's dot menu suggestion. If that is accessible for all roles we can keep the tiles largely free from clutter. If it's only for admins we should list separately what should must find a place on the tile.

                                      As to the 2FA idea, of course we can find an icon to reflect that (I've been using fontawesome icons for the wireframe because the font is already in use - but I cannot find any suitable icon there).

                                      Before we get to that: are there any apps that require 2FA by default? I only know of those with optional settings. Digging that deep would mean that we'd eventually have to pick the icons to display, right?

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                                      • girishG girish

                                        login indicator is an excellent suggestion! I prefer it to be always shown instead on hover. (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

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                                        hexbin
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @girish said in Dashbard UX enhancement suggestions:

                                        [...] (I don't like the current settings icon hover either... but that's a separate topic).

                                        Give me a little more background information on how it's built (or a link to that separate topic), maybe I can help (with expertise in UX, CSS, accessibility).

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                                        • nebulonN nebulon

                                          @atrilahiji some time back we have thought of this actually, back then though it wasn't quite clear to us if this is a common thing to do or not. I am still not sure about the use-case for starting and stopping apps frequently, but maybe I just don't have that. Adding such a button is easy enough if many users find that useful.

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                                          d19dotca
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                                          #24

                                          @nebulon I agree with @atrilahiji's use-case, and is the same for me in most cases too. I may make a change in an app (usually WordPress) in a file that may only get read on boot, therefore for the settings to take effect I need to restart the app so the changes are recognized. Sometimes it's also nice to just have a "clean start" of the app to at least sanity-check / rule out items when troubleshooting (such as caching and other areas depending on the app).

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                                          www.d19.ca

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