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@girish One thing to note, all stopped apps where not imported through the restore method even tho they had backups retained with them. We are still trying to find and recover those apps atm, but they must be buried in a random 2024-04-08-030000-684 folder. Never the less.

Is it possible to recover data from the snapshot folder? what is that for if backups pull from the other folders? I think our stopped apps are in there but Im not sure how to recover them through the front end that way.

One thing that would have made this process so much more seamless is just including that restore config file in the snapshot folder, and the corresponding configs for each app backup, would have saved us hours of finding the correct backup id manually for each method, since Im assuming they are slightly different?

@girish it said gzip tarExtract pipeline error: Backup not found: affinitydesign-backup/2024-04-08-030000-684/app_academyoflifemontessori.com_v2.25.0.tar.gz

Its just really picky with the syntax. We did end up restoring successfully by uploading our backups to S3 and then setting the correct path.

We have abadoned the CIFS method now since it caused to much headache. A rep in our company pointed out that with that method, mnt/cloudronbackup was being appended to the backup path on the front end after the restore button was pressed, which you can see in the loom video, however it clearly failed to mount all the data and that was indeed what was throwing all those errors.

I was able to restore access through by uploading the backups to amazon S3, however it was not without one syntax issue that delayed the process

if the backup id is anything other then 2024-08-15-030000-742/box_v8.0.3 , it will through an error message, we had a slash like this /2024-08-15-030000-742/box_v8.0.3 it will through a broken path error, which was difficult to debug since we did not have the config file.

Still not sure why the CIFS mounts throughs an error though.

The main problem
I can't restore any of the previous cloudron backups/snapshot into a new instance of cloudron successfully. Seams to load with errors and corrupt services. Not sure what to do.

https://www.loom.com/share/d28ed53d01d848459937e13e114a79c8

issues.
Mail not importing
Multiple service failure
as soon I i restart any service, error messages popup and if I restart msql the may Linux high powered server service crashes

The apps look like they are together but I can't restart any red services as soon as i do it crashes everything.

I have tried several differnt backups dating back up to two weeks, and the errors still persist.

Fresh Ubuntu 20.04
Cloudron 8.0.3 install

I was looking through the API docs but don't see any commands to create new apps off previous backups. Is this even possible?

I basically would like to automate the clone of an application when someone orders it off us to a specific subdomain added to the api endpoint.

@girish I think this could be the case, I tried to extract the Gzip and tar file inside but had an extraction failure, So I think the file may have been corrupted due to a faulty sector of the drive. Going to replace it shortly.

No, I didn't have any other redundancy. But hey, it happens.

@girish It's a CIFS mount from another local Linx server.

Has anyone got this message while trying to import a backup?

Seams to be only affecting one app in my system but nonetheless not sure what may have caused this error, I have since backed up to a version 2 weeks ago but after that point the backups seem to fail. I need the data that was created inside since then but cant get a working restore after that point. Any thoughts?

Wordpress v2.25.0
v7.3.6 (Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS)

THANK YOU. I use Cloudflare as my DNS provider. Looks like they have some sort of caching feature called Cloudflare Rocketloader which caused this conflict. I Turned it off and it worked now. Much appreciated! @nebulon

https://community.cloudflare.com/t/how-can-i-remove-the-rocket-loader-script-from-the-header-tag-on-my-website/4229

I am unable to login to the Cloudron admin after the last update. Apps seem to be running, but cloudron login is completely broken and unreachable. Ref: <link removed by admin>

Is there a way I can force an update to latest cloudron from my ubuntu end?

Got this error after trying to add my cloudron email to Gmail online client! Does anyone know what it means?

Missing +OK response upon connecting to the server: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot (Ubuntu) ready.

Wordpress plus membership plugin. I use Membership pro super cheap and takes no fees or monthly from you! Also connects to woo

@d19dotca I cleaned up the post to make it much easier for future users to read!

No, To clarify, Step 3 in your instructions was not missed. The reason I lost my access to my LDAP user after the transfer was simply because the "Unmanaged Wordpress" App has LDAP included but not activated by default, therefore rendering my primary admin user account useless at login window after migration. (no matter how many times I restarted the app, it didn't fix the issue, this issue only happens migrating from managed to unmanaged version) If any users are importing a site into the destination of a "Managed Wordpress" App distribution, then none of this is relevant and Your instructions are 100% accurate and are all that's needed.

To clarify, In order to transfer your site from the managed app to an unmanaged app in Cloudron without getting locked out using this method make sure you prep one of the following options ...

1. Create a second admin account in wordpress before migration and use that upon signing into the new app. (which I did & recommend way easier)

2. Leave "Do not export Must-Use Plugins" uncheaked upon exporting backup file during migration. (Warning: This will transfer in Wp-Mail-SMPT, AuthLDAP, Disable Wordpress Core Updates, as Must Use plugins and mean you cant re-enable updates from admin without SFTP edits — Not recommended! )

3. If you already transfered and are locked out still and don't want to do it again, Activate the LDAP plugin from terminal -> mysql command | view this post for instructions.

@murgero I agree!! It is a free open source distro that I modified originating from wordpress.org not their private paid product, as long as i don't distro this branch it should be okay.

@nebulon @murgero It worked! But only with a little mod... Here's what I Did for future users.

1. Site under 500 Mb? Skip to step 2, If not keep reading...

Before I proceeded to follow through with @d19dotca Instructions to migrate the site I had to work around the plugins 512mb import limitation of all in one wp plugin.

Unnecessary Rant: Now, If I knew that the developer purposefully locked the user out from importing backups over 512 mb I wouldn’t have choose to back up countless hours of work of my site using this method… In fact, I was relying on cloudron for my primary my backups and this plug as secondary a "just in case" type scenario! But because there is no way to transfer the back up from cloudron, I have no choice but to either fork the premium, resort to another tedious complicated process or resort to this method. DISCLAIMER: I will GLADLY pay a premium for extra options but THIS felt more like extortion. Moraly, you can be the judge, but this is what i did Anyway.

I proceeded to downloading an old version of the plugin (version 6.68) and modified line 254 of the constants.php to : define( 'AI1WM_MAX_FILE_SIZE', 536870912 * 20 ); This gave me 10gb upload limit.

2. Create a second admin level account from wordpress, if you don't have one already (you can delete later after transfer — Important note! If you dont do this you can be locked out by previous AuthLDAP settings)

3. Use the All-In-One WP Migration plugin to export the site, being sure to check the boxes in advanced section that say "Do not export must-use plugins"

4. Setup the new Unmanaged WordPress app in your Cloudron install (my.yourdomain.com) to a temporary domain, eg transfer.yourdomain.com.

5. Configure Import by logging on with Default credentials, (click info on app to show default login creds) and add in the same All-In-One WP Migration plugin you used. Now import the site file that was created in step 3 above.

6. Reconfigure AuthLDAP: After it's done importing, login with the second admin account you just created in step 2 and activate AuthLDAP. Then copy and paste all the settings from your managed install AuthLDAP Settings feilds To the new apps settings feilds — (This will reactivate your old admin amount)

7. Reconfigure WP-SMPT: Copy and paste all the settings from your managed install WP-SMPT Plugin - Settings feilds To the new apps settings fields.

You can now delete your managed app and replace to original Domain easily from the cloudron dashboard. Enjoy SFTP, No Write limit to the main directory and unshackled wordpress creation!

Extra, Reasons why @d19dotca didnt work as planned.

Because I followed step by step, I enabled advance export options and checked the "Do not export must-use plugins". Because of this I could not login because my main admin user needed Authdap which was not installed by default in the unmanaged distro, like the managed one. Luckily I had a secondary Admin account where I was able to login and Install AuthLDAP manualy to login with my original primary admin account.

Also because the unmanaged app doesnt include WP Main SMPT by default, I had to manually reconfigure that plugin which was included but not activated or setup. I achieved this by installing the plugin and copied the settings credentials from my first site ("yourdomain.com"/wp-admin/options-general.php?page=wp_mail_smtp.php) to the new sites plugin settings fields and it worked as I expected.

Other than that, I then restored the original domain from the old app in cloudron and also just had to make a few mods to .htaccess to get my max php time and upload limits to where I originally had them.

All in all, I transferred my site (721mb) from Managed to Unmanaged with this method.

Cheers.

@nebulon & @murgero I actuality have that plugin! However, My site is over 512 mb so they want me to buy premium in order to use. I think I might have to bite the bullet on this one... Thanks for your quick responses!

/app/data/public

I believe. Essentially where core wordpress files are stored. I guess that's going to have to be the option. Any decent free migration plugins to recommend?

Also, doesn't wordpress unmanaged app handle the domain setup for you?

I have run into a few plugins that require access to the root directory.

Unfortunately I started this build BEFORE the unmanaged version was officially released!

Is its possible to change over via a few lines of code somewhere?

If not, what would the easiest migration path be? Is it possible to restore from a cloudron backup or third party plugin? Or is that linked to the managed version only?

That would work! Thank you for clarifying this for me. Cheers!

Hey there! I am a bit confused as to how to setup a cron in terminal. Or im assuming thats where you set it up.

I am running a wordpress app and i need to setup a cron job to import data from google calander for a plugin. I was directed to the addon section of cloudron but am a bit confused as to where to run this code.

Do I just paste it into my apps terminal after modifying the appropriate lines?

After reading the overview it just points to this manifest page which is blank....

Also for the schedule feild what would a correct line look like for running the task every 10 minutes? Link this?

      "import_google_events": {
          "schedule": "10 * * * *",
          "command": "//app/data/wp-content/plugins/modern-events-calendar/app/crons/g-import.php"
      }
  }

Just looking for some direction on how to setup cron tasks! thanks!```
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